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From Chris Moore

Hey everyone! Sorry, I have been working on something similar and I haven't said much about it here because I was a bit confused as to what this group meant. My bad ;(

I've recruited a couple demos for the June Drinkup. +Carin Meier and Warren Harrison are on the schedule for the first one. Craig Smith (Hive13) was going to demo his Arduino drinking game, but he's out of town this month.

My reasoning is to slowly introduce the concept to the existing group rather than create something standalone. I don't intend to own anything and I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes – I want to make that clear. We already have the venue with the A/V control and this seemed to be the path of least resistance. If it doesn't work out, then we should certainly consider other options.

Also, I think the Drinkup is fun, but I also don't want it to stagnate and be a waste of time. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but I worry about

From Chris Moore

Update: I'm canceling the demos tomorrow night, sadly. +Carin Meier, I'm sorry. I couldn't get everything together in time and I'd rather do it well. I'm going to NYC next week to the NYTM, so I hope to learn more about how it's organized.

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	Alan Audette: Doug, I missed the conversation. Was this on Twitter?
	Josh Owens: And blog posts
	Josh Owens: I think Doug is mostly referring to this: http://words.cdmwebs.com/let-s-start-with-why
	Doug Alcorn: Let's Start with Why: http://t.co/nLU5KJysTw
	– @cdmwebs
	Doug Alcorn: For sure: ^^^^
	Alan Audette: thx, I was pretty unplugged this weekend
	Geoff Cornwall: Chris' post I thought hit it right on the head. (I was finally able to catch up last night on twitter / blog posts.)
	Doug Alcorn: It's kinda hard to have an extended conversation 140 characters at a time, but I'm really interested in what motivates you to participate
	👊 THE BEAR 👊: bbq's are great places to have conversations

	Hey Josh,

	Sounds like a pretty intriguing event.

	We have plenty of space for that size group. When you say working on projects for 48 hours, do you literally mean that you'd need the space for 48 hours straight? That'd be the only potential complication I see, but is still something we could figure out.

	Since we're open to the public on Sat & Sun, we usually charge a minimum purchase fee based on the amount of space we need to reserve. For a group that size, we'd charge $1,000min (not including gratuity) for every 4 hours that we're open when you rent the space. So, if you guys spend at least $1,000 over that time period, then you wouldn't owe anything else, but if you spent just $500, you'd owe another $500 as a rental fee. The minimum should be pretty easy to cover. If you have 100 people and everyone has 2 beers, you'd be at $1,200.

	We have plenty of power, but most of the outlets are placed in the tasting room and around the brew deck, so we'd likely need to run extension chords down to the area

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