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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:37:48 CEST] <feep>	.note shawwwn saw your pm. at the risk of opening wounds, logos01 is not the ultimate reason for my behavior, but I can explain it to you if you like. At any rate, this sounds ridiculous and insulting, but I really *don't* dislike you.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:37:48 CEST] Notice	-feepbot- Left a note for shawwwn!
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:38:07 CEST] <feep>	well, attempt made
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:39:51 CEST] <feep>	.note shawwwn tl;dr that pattern I keep "accusing" you off, of getting oversensitively attached and then going off on a perceived attacker, you're not the person I've first seen that in, and I always feel I "got away too easy" the last time. so it's not dislike, it's paranoia.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:39:52 CEST] Notice	-feepbot- Left a note for shawwwn!
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:40:10 CEST] <feep>	I think that clarifies things.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:40:30 CEST] <feep>	I should probably have mentioned this earl-- no, there wouldn't have been a point.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:40:44 CEST] <feep>	anyway, sorry for that cross-channel drama; for obvious reasons I can't leave those notes over in #lesswrong
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:41:09 CEST] <feep>	Urchin[emacs]: feepbot technically has .addquote but it gets spammy; most of our joins are reconnects her
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:41:12 CEST] <feep>	here*
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:45:45 CEST] <nshepperd2>	sad :(
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:45:58 CEST] <feep>	.note shawwwn addendum, responding to your pm exchange, to be absolutely clear at the risk of being hurtful: I like you, but I am *not* comfortable around you. But that's not that you "make me uncomfortable", as that I think that pattern I mentioned destroys communities, and I'm genuinely scared.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:45:59 CEST] Notice	-feepbot- Left a note for shawwwn!
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:47:19 CEST] <feep>	nshepperd2: I mean, to explain to you as well, I was genuinely miffed about logos01 still but I also was upset because I really was relying on the ops to ... like, as I said, "either blow up and get banned, or chill"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:47:40 CEST] <feep>	like, I was emotionally relying on you guys as the first line of defense against that pattern.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:48:44 CEST] <feep>	so it's a sense of "oy, why isn't the fire alarm going off, I thought we had smoke detectors"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:50:19 CEST] <feep>	does that make sense
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:50:51 CEST] <nshepperd2>	yeah
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:50:53 CEST] <feep>	~
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:50:58 CEST] <feep>	that said https://i.redd.it/4c8fkyombpu71.png neko maid!
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:51:23 CEST] <feep>	https://i.imgur.com/u2N7eIo.jpg pet the fuzzy
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:53:02 CEST] <nshepperd2>	aww
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [06:53:36 CEST] <feep>	n.n
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [08:08:21 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	feep: really, I got the wrong channel
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [08:08:49 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	feep: that's one ominous headpat
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [08:09:37 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	anyway, I'm upgrading debian, so I might end up disconnected at any point
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [08:09:57 CEST] <nshepperd2>	p sure it's _arknights_
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [08:10:28 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	it's been a while since I played arknights
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:12:15 CEST] <shawwwn>	feepbot, notes please!
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:12:15 CEST] <feepbot>	shawwwn: feep left a note 2 hours, 34 minutes ago: saw your pm. at the risk of opening wounds, logos01 is not the ultimate reason for my behavior, but I can explain it to you if you like. At any rate, this sounds ridiculous and insulting, but I really *don't* dislike you.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:12:15 CEST] <feepbot>	shawwwn: feep left a note 2 hours, 32 minutes ago: tl;dr that pattern I keep "accusing" you off, of getting oversensitively attached and then going off on a perceived attacker, you're not the person I've first seen that in, and I always feel I "got away too easy" the last time. so it's not dislike, it's paranoia.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:12:15 CEST] <feepbot>	shawwwn: feep left a note 2 hours, 26 minutes ago: addendum, responding to your pm exchange, to be absolutely clear at the risk of being hurtful: I like you, but I am *not* comfortable around you. But that's not that you "make me uncomfortable", as that I think that pattern I mentioned destroys communities, and I'm genuinely scared.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:12:31 CEST] <shawwwn>	Um
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:15:29 CEST] <shawwwn>	I was expecting some notes from Betawolf about attack on titan
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:15:36 CEST] <shawwwn>	so that was a little bit of a shock.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:18:02 CEST] <shawwwn>	feep. I DM'ed you with an apology and an agreement about your perspectives. You've responded here in a way that frankly makes you seem unhinged.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:18:56 CEST] <shawwwn>	Luckily, my view doesn't matter too much. But I came to #lw-fandom to chill
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:19:27 CEST] <shawwwn>	having offtopic crap spewed at me at 2am by feepbot isn't exactly the point of the channel.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:21:32 CEST] <shawwwn>	Okay, it wasn't crap. I just have a lot of sensitivity about this, and you keep complicating things that should be pretty straightforward. A DM + apology + "your compiler is cool and I felt bad for my behavior" would not normally result in public messages saying I am a community menace.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:22:20 CEST] <shawwwn>	For example, nshepperd is in here, and saturn2 is in #lw-politics. Whatever your intention was, from their perspective, "my drama" keeps spilling out into the public for no damn reason
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:23:54 CEST] <shawwwn>	But I'm starting to see that the best attitude here is to just say "ok" and find all of this amusing rather than hurtful
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:27:23 CEST] <shawwwn>	Yes, of course I'd like to hear your perspective. And yes, your feelings of fear are probably valid. But you reacting this way only makes your own fear come true, because your reaction is now the one harming a community. I've tried to communicate a few times in the past that you've done this same thing before with me, and it's starting to feel like you have a mental fixation on me.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:29:30 CEST] <shawwwn>	Why can't we just talk about compilers or anime or literally anything else? I was hoping to wrap up this stuff with a DM to you and a "good luck with future endeavors" type message, and instead get a lengthy public comment that most people would interpret as an insult. It's not exactly an "I don't dislike you" kind of response.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:30:52 CEST] <shawwwn>	Your whole point was that people don't use /ignore when they really should. I agree. quanticle, for example, is blissfully unaware of my response to you.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:34:38 CEST] <shawwwn>	Frankly, people learn as children how to play nicely with other children, but you've never seemed to absorb that ability. Some children do go around trying to convince other children that a certain child is weird and that no one else should associate with them, and that their group should stop associating with that dangerous outsider. But such nonsense usually stops once you reach grad school.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:36:03 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	lol
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:36:18 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	getting to grad school is a long time
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:37:26 CEST] <shawwwn>	heh. I was going to use "high school" and was like "well, no.. I suppose they do that in high school...". "undergrad" was the next idea, but frats are pretty much the definition of "should we associate with this person?"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:38:50 CEST] <shawwwn>	but grad school, though, is when real work begins. If feep tried to pull this in the workplace, his boss would lose patience long before I did. feep just happened to have #lesswrong seniority on me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:40:09 CEST] <shawwwn>	Now then. Being a jew, I'm always happy to cut deals with my associates. And since you seem unwilling to /ignore me, I'd like to make a deal that we -- somehow -- are apparently going to be talking with each other. When we do, we should probably *avoid* talking *about* each other, at least publicly.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:40:20 CEST] <shawwwn>	Does that sound reasonable?
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [09:45:33 CEST] <shawwwn>	(I like how my DM to you was "I see now that you were just looking out for Logos01, sorry!" and you were like "no no, I actually was specifically going out of my way to increase the odds of you getting banned as much as possible because of my own paranoia that may or may not be justified." I guess I got feep'd.)
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:11:12 CEST] <shawwwn>	but I suppose one benefit of all of this is that if feep doesn't care about the topic, I may as well dump my ML stuff here. Maybe I'll coax gwern to join once he gets curious enough. https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1451083031910010882
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:11:12 CEST] <|dbotdan>	Shawn Presser (@theshawwn, 2021-10-21 07:08): ‘One of my mentors wrote over 500 scientific papers. | She taught me one remarkable tactic: | She wouldn't write her own papers. | She only SENT her ideas TO COLLEAGUES. | I wrote over 1,000 papers using the same technique. | Step by step🧵👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻’
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:27:07 CEST] <nshepperd2>	https://i.redd.it/615m6ayeogu71.jpg awoo
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:36:38 CEST] <Betawolf>	I like the plotline, the whole thing about rejecting racial guilt narratives in the later arcs works really well, and the demonstration of revolutionary corruption in Eldia was great. Currently the idiotball is the Beast Titan's plan, which is senselessly genocidal -- just alter the Eldians so they can no longer be transformed into Titans. 
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:42:35 CEST] <kuudes>	shawwwn, fyi, feep was imo the main reason you did not get banned. he spoke for you and offered to guarantee you and got the responsibility for that to some extent as far as I saw. thats why they put him the burden of ops. otherwise you would just have got ip banned
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:43:11 CEST] <kuudes>	so please do not think that feep is out to get you. he has been the main spokesperson for you
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:44:03 CEST] <shawwwn>	kuudes. My whole point above was that messages like this should *not* be public
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:44:12 CEST] <shawwwn>	I don't know what's so hard to understand about this
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:44:22 CEST] <shawwwn>	"is it about shawn?" "maybe don't post it in #lw-fandom"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:44:51 CEST] <shawwwn>	because once again, I came here to chill with Logos01 and talk about titans with Betawolf 
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:45:10 CEST] <shawwwn>	now, fyi, I am banned from #lesswrong in that I am +q, which means I can say nothing
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:45:19 CEST] <shawwwn>	if you think that the lack of IP ban did me any favors whatsoever, you are mistaken
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:46:10 CEST] <shawwwn>	feep needs to stop talking about me *entirely*, and I'll do the same for him. Because this is truly getting to be so absurd that it's beyond comical
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:46:54 CEST] <shawwwn>	in fact, it'd make a decent bad-anime
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:47:04 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	#lesswrong hasn't been worth interacting with in ages, IMO
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:47:37 CEST] <Urchin[emacs]>	https://i.redd.it/j5pqeat95ou71.jpg
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:47:41 CEST] <shawwwn>	lol. thank you for saying something. It's kind of a relief to hear
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:50:31 CEST] <shawwwn>	I've been feeling similarly for awhile now, and #lw-fandom seemed like the perfect place to transfer to. The last thing I need is feep's lunacy leaking out of #lesswrong, or kuudes being like "well actually feep is a nice guy" when I'm +q forever because I got baited into being pissed off at feep for not being quiet when I was unbanned the first time.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:52:29 CEST] <shawwwn>	kuudes, I'm sorry for sounding harsh. It's just been three full days of this now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ&ab_channel=TooDamnFilthy
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [10:52:30 CEST] <feepbot>	it's time to stop - YouTube
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:03:22 CEST] <kuudes>	you would imo be +b if feep had not spoken
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:03:52 CEST] <kuudes>	but yes. I have said what I had to say, so please enjoy anime
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:05:46 CEST] <shawwwn>	1. I might not be banned, but I'm basically shadowbanned. Not only did feep do me zero favors, but I wouldn't even be +q if he'd been quiet to begin with
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:09:46 CEST] <shawwwn>	(Emily points out that blaming others for my own actions is dumb, and that I'm implicitly saying that feep shouldn't get to talk. Totally valid. But nonetheless, feep argued that I was a community menace, and people took note.)
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:10:13 CEST] <shawwwn>	2. for the love of anime, let's just put this behind us and move. on.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:14:32 CEST] <kuudes>	I disagree on "I wouldn't even be +q if he'd been quiet to begin with". that is my point
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:15:08 CEST] <kuudes>	saturn2 queried on the channel if there was anyone who spoke for you, and feep was the only one who spoke. no one else defended you, even me.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:16:28 CEST] <kuudes>	basicly from my pov you are attacking the person who has been the most on your side of us all
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:26:31 CEST] <shawwwn>	I understand and appreciate your perspective. Unfortunately, there were lengthy DMs which you weren't privy to, which is why it must've seemed like feep was doing me a favor by speaking up. At that time, I was in the process of speaking with saturn2, which is why he asked publicly. He wasn't asking with the intent of "should we ban shawn?" but rather "ok, should we enforce the +q
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:26:34 CEST] <shawwwn>	?"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:27:40 CEST] <shawwwn>	and as you can see, the +q is enforced. I don't remember what feep said, but you make it sound like it was an impassioned speech on my behalf. It wasn't.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:29:19 CEST] <shawwwn>	The part I'm reacting to (and have been...) is what came before all of that. By that point, I was already screwed. And I got myself into that situation -- my own fault -- for allowing myself to interact with feep. Because when nshepperd banned me and then reversed, feep literally would not be quiet about the "moderation inconsistency"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:30:03 CEST] <shawwwn>	and argued that it was the perfect time to enforce a ban on me, and posted quotes of things I said in the past with no context, and listed N other reasons that the ban reversal should be re-reversed.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:30:19 CEST] <nshepperd2>	can you take this to DM
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:31:27 CEST] <shawwwn>	please ^ I've asked multiple times, and don't know what else to do at this point
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:32:52 CEST] <shawwwn>	I just want to be left alone
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:34:48 CEST] 	 * shawwwn had originally tabbed back in to post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kvroKeu4DQ&ab_channel=CarlosJorge 
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:34:49 CEST] <feepbot>	\ - YouTube
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:35:34 CEST] <shawwwn>	hmm... feep, that's a bug that keeps popping up in feepbot ^ not sure what causes it, but the title in this case is ""She IS dancing" but perfectly synced", not "\"
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:35:49 CEST] <shawwwn>	saw it once before.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:43:10 CEST] <shawwwn>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQzmlWQ2u4w&ab_channel=Telepurte
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [11:43:11 CEST] <feepbot>	202 | Maybe don't shake it like that - YouTube
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [13:44:46 CEST] <shawwwn>	Betawolf: It's been a little while since I've read the manga -- What was the Beast Titan's plan again?
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [13:45:51 CEST] <shawwwn>	The showdown between Levi and Beast Titan is epic. Calling it now: Beast Boy is gonna kill Levi by the end of the series
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [13:46:15 CEST] <shawwwn>	Levi dying would be the ultimate uno reverse
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [13:46:51 CEST] <shawwwn>	But I don't remember what beastie's endgame was. Actually, I forgot how he'd alter Eldians at all
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [13:47:25 CEST] <shawwwn>	Orrrr I've been out of the scene so long that you're taking about plot points I haven't gotten to yet, in which case I should probably go watch :D
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [16:08:49 CEST] <Betawolf>	He wants to make them infertile so they die out, which is just a weird indirect solution to the actual problem.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [16:29:43 CEST] <nshepperd>	https://i.redd.it/h7r6rej8ymu71.jpg pout
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [16:33:03 CEST] <nshepperd>	https://i.imgur.com/7LDezs0.jpg okakoro
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:17:12 CEST] <feep>	shawwwn: ohi
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:17:27 CEST] <feep>	I fundamentally and fully reject the claim that I argued that you were a community menace; let's take this to pm?
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:18:17 CEST] <feep>	shawwwn: I mean, if you want to actually understand my position, if not I can drop it with no repercussions to you
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:18:46 CEST] <feep>	shawwwn: to be clear, all of this is first-level communication; I'm not saying any of this to make you feel bad, I just have a preference for people to have correct beliefs about me.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:20:40 CEST] <feep>	oyeah, to clarify something basic; I didn't anticipate you'd be back, like, "the next day", I thought you'd maybe get those notes in a few weeks or sth.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:20:59 CEST] <feep>	if I'd known you'd stay here I'd have just waited.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:30:48 CEST] <feep>	but I think ... like, I think if you understand where I'm coming from, my behavior should make perfect sense.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:31:20 CEST] <feep>	if that's less important to you than avoiding the topic, that's also cool.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:34:04 CEST] <feep>	-- that came across more passive aggressive than intended; I am genuinely okay with either choice.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:42:53 CEST] <feep>	https://i.redd.it/wcq6vqllyru71.jpg hahaha
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:58:03 CEST] <shawwwn>	nshepperd: can you somehow convince feep to stop reflexively talking about me in public? As you can see, me asking him to stop this isn't getting anywhere, and at this point it feels like he's the one who's fully enjoying special treatment.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:58:53 CEST] <feep>	um
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:58:56 CEST] <feep>	I was talking about me...
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:58:59 CEST] <feep>	to you
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:59:01 CEST] <shawwwn>	I think tthat if, one day, the mods were to un- +q me in #lesswrong, he's going to pull this exact same thing.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:59:12 CEST] <feep>	and I explicitly said "I can drop it", I just wanted to extend the offer
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:59:40 CEST] <shawwwn>	you can do all of this in pm. You can also follow the channel topic and stop dragging your own personal paranoia around in public where it's unwanted and unwelcome
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [18:59:52 CEST] <feep>	yes, hence why I said "let's take this to pm?" :p
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:18 CEST] <feep>	I don't like pming people who aren't there, irc is stateless so there's a good chance they'll never see it.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:23 CEST] <shawwwn>	no, you didn't. You didn't fucking say "let's take this to pm," feep. You said a bunch of other shit, and *then* said that.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:27 CEST] <shawwwn>	ah. well
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:30 CEST] <shawwwn>	I'm on irccloud
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:34 CEST] <shawwwn>	you have nothing to worry about
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:34 CEST] <feep>	<feep> shawwwn: ohi [18:17] <feep> I fundamentally and fully reject the claim that I argued that you were a community menace; let's take this to pm?
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:00:52 CEST] <shawwwn>	yes
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:05 CEST] <feep>	okay, and I stand by that that's a statement about myself more than you.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:05 CEST] <shawwwn>	this is you defending yourself publicly against my accusations, in an effort to get the last word
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:17 CEST] <shawwwn>	it's *super* childish, for one
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:20 CEST] <shawwwn>	it's against the rules for two
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:23 CEST] 	 * feep deep sigh
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:25 CEST] <feep>	do you want to know or not
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:33 CEST] <shawwwn>	you are just incredible.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:01:58 CEST] 	 * shawwwn goes for a shower and probably for a smoke after all of this, even though he doesn't smoke. Work in 30min
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:02:06 CEST] 	 * feep shrugs
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:02:09 CEST] <feep>	I'll assume "no" then.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [19:02:57 CEST] 	 * feep goes play fallout~
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:21:26 CEST] <shawwwn>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq33tXCB6y8&t=&ab_channel=LaurenReilly
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:21:27 CEST] <feepbot>	Pantz - YouTube
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:23:37 CEST] <shawwwn>	nshepperd: if feep is refusing to follow the rules here, and consistently bringing up off topic conversational tangents, then is there some kind of punishment mechanism in place? Because the consequences of his behavior seem invisible to me
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:24:33 CEST] <shawwwn>	I think that without him getting some kind of "do not do this" warning, just like you gave me to me, this kind of stuff is never going to end
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:25:49 CEST] <shawwwn>	I'd love to participate here in a positive way, but feep seems totally uninterested. Literally no one wants to hear the things that feep keeps spewing in public about me
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:29:42 CEST] <kuudes>	this is feep's channel
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:29:53 CEST] <kuudes>	literally feep is the Founder of the channel
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [20:53:45 CEST] <feep>	let's pretend that didn't happen.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [21:17:05 CEST] <feep>	https://i.imgur.com/fNmxrZ5.jpeg
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [23:14:21 CEST] <shawwwn>	https://twitter.com/jackclarkSF/status/1451273190974660612
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [23:14:22 CEST] <|dbotdan>	Jack Clark (@jackclarkSF, 2021-10-21 19:44): ‘Here's a Business Insider story about how a load more anonymous Google employees are censoring AI research, allegedly crossing out refs to things like fairness. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ethical-ai-timnit-gebru-2021-10  | This recent trend has directly impacted me. A thread...’
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[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [23:16:16 CEST] <shawwwn>	because of course my one refuge other than #lesswrong was forged by feep.
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [23:18:58 CEST] <feep>	aa
[Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021] [23:19:16 CEST] <feep>	I want to say "it's okay" but you told me to drop it..
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