NuckChorris · July 20, 2011 01:26
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:18] <hoodlum-girl-rox> how can we tell if we're already in #backstage pass? srry, I'm a noob at this
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:22] <SaTaNiA> kouiskas: :thumb89128169: Gilles
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:25] <aMoniker> o hai
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:26] <aMoniker> I grew it myself
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:27] <PrairieEagle> 5 more minutes, someone start the count down!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:28] <knightar> Danium: God I hope not, if that story is true
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:30] <Tachy-on> cynorg and hoodlum-girl-rox, can you /join #backstagepass? :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:31] <kouiskas> dT in the house, yo
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:32] <Pickley> kouiskas: :thumb123245023:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:41] <chix0r> jekor: :lick:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:43] <StarBoyDeath> hoodlum-girl-rox: You're not in it. Type '/join backstagepass'
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:43] <YoshiDrawing> THREE
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:45] <Tachy-on> <b>We'll be starting in about 5 minutes folks :)</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:48] <Danium> knightar: So it sounds like one of those nights you dont want to remember :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:49] <SaTaNiA> jekor: :ahoy:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:49] <DaPineapple> Old joke
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:50] <YukiMizuno> :thumb22771552:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:50] <DaPineapple> but
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:50] <jekor> chix0r: :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:54] <prosaix> :excited:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:58] <Blubble-The-Blubs> Woo! &avatar	lawooplz	5
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:25:59] <DaPineapple> holy shit jekor's an admin!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:01] <DaPineapple> :cough:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:02] <PrairieEagle> Tachy-on: I didn't think you would actually do it :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:08] <SaTaNiA> Tachy-on: :thumb13938456: muting is coming soon :thumb13938456:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:10] <Danium> DaPineapple: betman will be here soon
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:12] <jekor> DaPineapple...I remember that name...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:16] <Wi6791lly> DaPineapple: and so is dxd
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:19] <alexsky0> :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:19] <hoodlum-girl-rox> ok, there we go
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:23] <cynorg> sorry, too many tabs open - I got distracted reading the chat :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:26] <deshrubber> DaPineapple: :thumb51943416:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:30] <DaPineapple> jekor: Dunno who that guy is :no:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:38] <StormPenguin> deshrubber: :spank:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:40] <DaPineapple> jekor: Guess I'll just ignore him.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:40] <PrairieEagle> deshrubber: I'm watching that show right now.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:42] <chix0r> unfortunately, the stories I have regarding jekor are not available for sharing due to the fact that they are illegal and incriminating
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:47] <DaPineapple> deshrubber: :thumb51943416:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:50] <deshrubber> StormPenguin: :roll:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:56] <hazelnutx> Hi everyone!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:57] <StormPenguin> deshrubber: You've been a naughty NAUGTHY boy
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:26:59] <deshrubber> PrairieEagle: :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:01] <RoxasShourai> ohai!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:06] <SaTaNiA> kemayo: :ahoy:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:08] <StormPenguin> deshrubber: I'm going to have to punish you :flirty:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:08] <kemayo> Hola.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:09] <deshrubber> StormPenguin: How did you know!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:13] <jekor> chix0r: I tell the illegal and incriminating ones about you, so don't hold back.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:20] <dxd> WHAT IS STAFF MEMBER?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:20] <KarakuriSix> : D WHOA
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:28] <SaTaNiA> crousto: Welcome on your first sickness feature chat :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:29] <Wi6791lly> dxd: you :clap:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:29] <RoxasShourai> Kemayo: Hola! =D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:32] <StormPenguin> hazelnutx: :thumb149461833:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:33] <allixsenos> ola
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:35] <StarBoyDeath> dxd: :slow:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:38] <hobfrog07> hiiiiii
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:39] <Danium> dxd: mlp fanboys obv
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:39] <MC-Frizzle> lots of dollar dollar bills here, y'all
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:40] <kouiskas> HOW IS BABBY FORMED?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:40] <fractal2cry> hi SaTaNiA what is this chat rm?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:40] <hazelnutx> StormPenguin: :huggle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:41] <chix0r> jekor: fine. I'll post that picture later then ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:45] <kemayo> Now, jekor, you know there aren't any stories like that about chix0r IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:46] <DaPineapple> Dude, I think the last time I saw this man $s in the same place it was August 7th 2010.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:52] <DaPineapple> many*
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:52] <crousto> :) Howdy
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:54] <PrairieEagle> the suspense is killing me. can we just start now?!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:54] <DaPineapple> herpderp
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:57] <Pickley> :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:59] <Sailor-Pikmin> :ninja:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:27:59] <SaTaNiA> fractal2cry: a feature chat with :devdt:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:02] <hazelnutx> kouiskas: lots and lots and lots of smexy tiem
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:03] *Pickley is good at getting dT :eyes:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:03] *StormPenguin will STFU now
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:05] <Danium> DaPineapple: :iconhurpplz:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:07] <KarakuriSix> ..this is alread epic.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:12] <Danium> &avatar	durpplz	5
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:18] <jekor> kemayo: If only I knew what was good for me...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:19] <DaPineapple> Danium: &avatar	hoersplz	6
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:20] <spyed> y0h.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:21] <Danium> ewww thats not how I remember durp :O
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:24] <fractal2cry> ty SaTaNiA hope u r feeling better
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:24] <Pickley> spyed: :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:25] <dxd> hey spyed!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:28] <Danium> DaPineapple: &avatar	munamiesplz	5
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:30] <DaPineapple> sup spyed.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:32] <spyed> allo!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:34] <RoxasShourai> spyed! =D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:34] <Sailor-Pikmin> spyed: Hihi!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:47] <StarBoyDeath> spyed: :slow:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:47] <SaTaNiA> spyed: :jawdrop: YOU here ! :faint:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:51] <SaTaNiA> :faints:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:51] <nuckchorris0> lol @ spyed
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:52] <PrairieEagle> Pickley: I'm going to go work on something, PLEASE tab me at 30
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:56] <Koolstr> lol promoting yourself
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:28:58] <Pickley> PrairieEagle: k
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:01] <hobfrog07> woah. Spyed is here.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:02] <Tachy-on> <b>We'll be starting soooooon</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:02] <nuckchorris0> PrairieEagle: You got 2 minutes
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:06] <hyperized> I gues this was a planned meeting
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:06] <DaPineapple> Tachy-on: :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:06] <YoshiDrawing> spyed!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:08] <nuckchorris0> Make that one.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:09] <deshrubber> spyed: :salute:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:10] <Sailor-Pikmin> Tachy-on: :iconexcitedplz:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:12] <YoshiDrawing> How the how?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:12] <KarakuriSix> ..do we get free things for being here?! :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:14] <hoodlum-girl-rox> :wave: hi spyed
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:14] <fractal2cry> what do i have to do plz
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:14] <YoshiDrawing> WOOO
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:14] <Wi6791lly> :eager:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:16] <Pickley> hyperized: :thumb147182142: planned yep.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:17] <SockHiddenUnderARock> :o
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:21] <SockHiddenUnderARock> what's this
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:23] <Koolstr> OH HAI THAR.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:25] <Lazy-Drummer132> -sits- I wish I had questions to ask, but I'm probably just going to observe. Hahah.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:27] <7Vale> :thumb67023595: <abbr title="colors:0099FF:0099FF"></abbr>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:28] <spyed> KarakuriSix: yeah you get free hugs. :hug;
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:31] <Pickley> Wasn't expecting like all of dA haha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:32] <SaTaNiA> spyed: it's been a while we don't see you here ! :hug: Thanks for beeing with us :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:33] <spyed> oh wait, i broke my hug.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:33] <RoxasShourai> EXCITEMENT! xD
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:35] <cynorg> free emoticons and chat straight from our fingers to your eyes
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:37] <SockHiddenUnderARock> spyed: :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:46] <spyed> yay!!!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:46] <ppgrainbow> Hi all! :wave: Just stopped in time to say hi!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:46] <KarakuriSix> spyed: LE GASP. I got a hug from Spyed.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:54] <Sailor-Pikmin> cynorg: :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:29:59] <DaPineapple> spyed gives awesome hugs, man.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:08] <hobfrog07> HI SPYED!!!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:10] *hazelnutx wants a hug. :paranoid:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:11] <Koolstr> karakurisix cherish it. Never shower again.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:13] <Sailor-Pikmin> spyed's never hugged me. :crying:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:13] <StarBoyDeath> Hi Micah.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:13] <hyperized> :8Bwalk:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:17] <hyperized> aaw :(
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:19] <KarakuriSix> Koolstr: :' D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:20] <Wi6791lly> SWEET baby jesus there is a lot of $
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:20] <spyed> yeah we're straight up chatting in y0 face. that's what's goin' on up in this peace. haha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:22] <alexsky0> :happybounce:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:24] <tanzer98> hello everybody!!! :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:35] <Pickley> And more $.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:36] <phoenixleo> wow people here
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:38] <ewm> micahgoulart: :huggle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:39] <Endorell-Taelos> whoa
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:39] <SockHiddenUnderARock> spyed: Thank you for the inspirational message you left on my page. It has made me very optimistic and happy the past few days. :giggle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:40] <dxd> i got real man hugs from spyed, mccann and randomduck once :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:49] <Tachy-on> Okay, let's start this!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:30:59] <Tachy-on> Welcome everyone to a featured chat with our deviousTechnology crew!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:31:12] <mccann> not all at once..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:31:16] <Tachy-on> It's really geeky in here!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:31:25] <spyed> SockHiddenUnderARock: hey! you're welcome, I enjoyed drawing you. haha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:31:35] <Tachy-on> We have an active developer/geek community here at deviantART and they approached us with an interest in sitting down and chatting about the technical side of deviantART. We thought to ourselves, what a great idea! So here we are. Our panel is representing the community but we'll also hopefully be taking some questions from the queue.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:31:47] <Tachy-on> So without further delay let's begin! (please have your questions pre-typed and ready to post).
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:32:16] <Tachy-on> electricjonny and hyperized, you have a question I believe :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:32:34] <hyperized> yes, What other API's are you planning to introduce? Will these include read and write API's to allow us to eliminate the use of DiFi for commenting and similar? Will we as developers from the community be allowed input into new API calls?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:33:20] <kouiskas> input is more than welcome, I've already added API calls following deviants' input
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:33:43] <kouiskas> for the damn token, most notably
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:33:57] <electricjonny> - "Why did deviantART decide to implement a proper API instead of just oEmbed/RSS? What circumstances changed internally if you are allowed to tell us?"&lt;bt&gt;- "Why is Stash only a storage system and not a full upload system for third party apps?"
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:34:03] <kouiskas> to be honest we're so focused on the stash API at the moment that we haven't taken hard decisions on where we're taking this next
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:34:03] <electricjonny> er, br fail
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:34:23] <kouiskas> but this first step is definitely one of many in terms of how much integration we're going to facilitate in the future
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:35:04] <Pickley> Nice to know :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:35:14] <hyperized> :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:35:34] <randomduck> for new generation of applications will be using APIs using oAuth autorization famework
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:35:54] <kouiskas> if you have ideas or API requests, email [email protected] it's a mailaing list for that kind of input
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:01] <randomduck> this is a very app centric way to authenticate without leaking user creadentials
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:04] <Pickley> We're very interested in such things as the ability to comment on journals, forums and deviations as such.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:10] <Pickley> kouiskas: Nice to know :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:19] <randomduck> RSS and oEmbed are fine as read-only public-only APIs
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:29] <nuckchorris0> kouiskas: Oooh, that's an interesting thing. We'll keep that in mind.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:36:33] <randomduck> they are real too
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:38:18] <HAL2008> Was there anything else you guys wanted to add regarding those questions? :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:38:24] <Pickley> Nope :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:38:30] <nuckchorris0> Not really :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:39:22] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0 and Pickley, you're up!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:39:35] <Pickley> Could we get an insight into the infrastructure that deviantART runs on? Such as technology stacks, hardware and machine numbers?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:39:47] <nuckchorris0> <b>Do you guys expect to stop using the deprecated hash-urls for AJAX and instead use pushState and such to manage the history in JS, similar to sites such as Facebook or Github?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:39:55] <allixsenos> pushState does not work on deviantART due to each user having their own subdomain.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:13] <kemayo> Lots of baling twine. Very useful stuff.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:18] <Pickley> :thumb72204170:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:20] <chris> Cisco ASR1002 router doing BGP with two upstreams
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:26] <nuckchorris0> allixsenos: Have you thought about using it similarly to the hashURLS are right now, on the server?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:34] <Moonbeam13> mccann: :highfive: can it be purple?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:35] <kouiskas> it comes up often in our discussions (pushState), the other issue is complete lack of support in IE, even 9
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:40:54] <allixsenos> it's something we're considering, no decision on it
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:41:04] <chris> 86 web servers with 2000 GHz of CPU
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:41:07] <nuckchorris0> kouiskas: Well, it falls back gracefully to non-AJAX, that's the whol benefit :P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:41:36] <kemayo> We've considered making a url on every subdomain like kemayo.deviantart.com/superart/1234567 which would just rewrite to the real deviation URL when it's visited by an actual user instead of just being pushed onto the history. We're undecided.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:41:41] <kouiskas> subdomains is the real dealbraker for us
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:41:42] <chris> 60 or so file servers with 1.6 petabytes of space
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:05] <chris> 5 gigabits per second of throughput
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:07] <allixsenos> we could also just run everything off www.deviantart.com, but we're not sure how you guys would take it ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:11] <kouiskas> kemayo.deviantart.com/superart/1234567 would be weird when the deviation is mine, from kemayo's favourites, for example, that's why we haven't done it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:16] <20after4> PETAbytes :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:22] <kemayo> Indeed.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:22] <Pickley> chris: Thats a lot of servers :thumb56323318:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:29] <nuckchorris0> allixsenos: Well, there's the possibility of making subdomains redirect to non-subdomain :P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:36] <20after4> Pickley: that's what she said
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:36] <nuckchorris0> chris: woooooow.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:46] <kemayo> And falling back to non-AJAX is lame because of the relatively poor performance. We'd rather have nice fast browsing with horrid URLs. It's a bad choice all around.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:47] <nuckchorris0> That is a LOT of capacity.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:42:47] <Pickley> 20after4: Burn :thumb72204170:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:43:10] <kemayo> If IE would just support the history APIs we'd be more inclined to switch to it and let old versions of IE have a poor experience.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:43:18] <kouiskas> I secretly hope we can bully firefox and chrome into supporting DNS-based whitelisting of subdomains for pushState
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:43:19] <nuckchorris0> kemayo: Fair enough, but the nonstandard hashURL style makes everybody hate them. The fact that it loads a page first and such
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:01] <nuckchorris0> kemayo: Good for you that IE10 supports it ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:03] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0: there's no way around it currently, it's the nice superfast browsing or nice clean URLs :( at least nothing that would cover all supported browsers
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:28] <kouiskas> how many turtles?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:37] <chris> with 1040 amps of 120V power
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:39] <mccann> and a partridge in a pair tree..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:40] <aMoniker> turtles all the way down
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:41] <kemayo> nuckchorris0: If it didn't load a page first then we'd have a grind-to-a-halt whenever you first click a deviation.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:44:45] <nuckchorris0> allixsenos: Perhaps just use the #/deviation/number?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:01] <nuckchorris0> It's just bad because we can't get thumbcodes from the URL anymore
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:17] <nuckchorris0> (I've seen people try, it's ugly)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:20] <chris> we're also planning on placing lawn gnomes in our cages at the datacenter to ward off thieves
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:26] <kemayo> What, you can't do base32 in your head?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:31] <kemayo> base36, sorry.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:35] <LGnome> Finally, I have a REAL task.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:45:40] <hyperized> chris: dA is multihomed, but is relying on transit capacity, so I can assume you guys dont do full internet routing, why does dA not peer itself?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:46:04] <chris> we are multihomed with full BGP routes, and we advertise our own IP allocation
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:46:20] <20after4> chris: just don't install GNOME on the servers plz
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:46:29] <chris> right now we just have nobody to peer with
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:46:38] <hyperized> chris: understood
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:46:41] <LGnome> First time I've tried a thumbcode, so we'll see how this goes &#x2014; here's a view of a few of our developers watching the chat: :thumb243487434:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:03] <Tachy-on> :clap:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:03] <LGnome> FAIL.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:11] <Pickley> :clap:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:16] <allixsenos> it worked for me
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:16] <hyperized> chris: one quick follow up on that, whats dA generic peering policy (for future reference)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:16] <chris> :dev243487434:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:23] <pachunka> noob
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:32] <chix0r> :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:33] <dxd> :thumb16160327:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:37] <ArtBIT> :devchris: do you ever visit dAmn?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:55] <micahgoulart> this is his first time outside the server room. be gentle.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:55] <chris> hyperized: we don't have one... a gigabit of transit costs about $1-2k/month, and a cross connect costs $250/month
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:47:58] <20after4> artbit: only to reboot it
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:17] <dxd> he struggles with anything other than programming languages
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:24] <chris> so for peering to make sense, we'd have to transfer 250 mbps
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:33] <knightar> He doesn't have his ninja turtles to defend him
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:37] <kemayo> We're developers. We don't do communication.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:46] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: :fear: We're gonna die.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:47] <mccann> ack
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:48:51] <chris> and no network we exchange traffic with, at least at our datacenter, accounts for that much traffic
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:08] <chris> basically, we're not a big enough network to justify peering
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:16] <chris> the majority of our bandwidth (85%) goes through our CDNs
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:34] <mccann> damn canadians
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:34] <chris> and they do most of the work of peering with the major ISPs out there
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:41] <hyperized> :) understood
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:44] <Tachy-on> hey dT folks - if you could indicate when you're done answering a question it'll help make things run smoother. Thanks! :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:51] <Pickley> :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:49:56] <jekor> We're never done.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:11] <knightar> If you let him, Chris will just keep talking
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:12] <MC-Frizzle> twss
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:15] <allixsenos> :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:18] <drigh> ban him
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:19] <Pickley> We noticed :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:19] <allixsenos> done for the hash-urls
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:24] <ArtBIT> all our answers first go to beta
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:25] <HAL2008> Yes, I agree. Let's move on :paranoid:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:26] <20after4> don't mess with chris
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:34] <20after4> he has teh banhammer in hand
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:36] <HAL2008> I feel stupid enough already =P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:36] <nuckchorris0> ArtBIT: What about alpha?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:49] <chris> Turtles are reptiles. The earliest known turtles date from 215 million years ago.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:50:57] <ArtBIT> nuckchorris0: we say it outloud here. That's alpha
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:06] <mccann> Taste like chicken.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:14] <HAL2008> hoodlum-girl-rox: You're up :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:16] <nuckchorris0> ArtBIT: Ah, I see. Do I see it earlier since I'm an =?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:16] <20after4> your mom dates from 215 million years ago too
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:20] <hoodlum-girl-rox> <b>When I upload an image as a layer, only a certain portion of the image will show up on the canvas because the image I work with is too large to fit on it. In the future will you guys make a feature for DA Muro to adjust the canvas size? </b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:20] <ArtBIT> NEXT!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:51:43] <ArtBIT> :P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:18] <pachunka> if jekor pretends to be mike-d, ignore him
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:21] <Pickley> :cough:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:27] <jekor> This is actually mudimba
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:30] <kouiskas> right
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:31] <chix0r> haha
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:52:50] <jekor> So, right now when you import an image you can scale it to fit your current canvas size
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:53:12] <jekor> We do not have changing canvas size at a specific point on the roadmap right now
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:53:13] <spyed> that's actually mudimba, up on the projector computer for a moment.. but, before... when there was lots of talking.. that was the real jekor. just to be clear. you know..
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:53:25] <jekor> But, it is something that we are interested in doing
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:53:36] <jekor> So, hopefully we can fit it in in the near future
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:00] <jekor> Thanks for the question, it is always good to hear what features are particularly bugging you
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:01] <kemayo> Liar.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:03] <hoodlum-girl-rox> that's awesome, I guess it's something that I may have missed
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:11] <kouiskas> now that jekor promised it, he has to make it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:16] <mccann> haha
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:25] <MC-Frizzle> hoodlum-girl-rox: Does that answer your question? :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:25] <hoodlum-girl-rox> sweet :w00t:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:26] <mccann> noted..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:27] <jekor> mudimba out
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:43] <ArtBIT> it's your word against everyone in this chat
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:54] <kouiskas> next question?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:54:59] <LGnome> Wider view of the room, and the 20-odd developers just sitting here, waiting for your questions: :thumb243491742:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:29] <kemayo> I am at the center, as is my right.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:39] <Pickley> Wait, dT is all in one place?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:43] <allixsenos> :thumb243491098:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:45] <LGnome> Pickley: All but three of us.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:51] <StarBoyDeath> Ready for me? :eyes:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:51] <kouiskas> that's not the office, btw
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:52] <Pickley> Awesome :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:54] <kemayo> How else do you think you can get all of us into a chatroom at one time?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:56] <LGnome> So if a bomb hits, you're all in trouble.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:55:56] <allixsenos> Pickley: we're at a remote location for 12 days
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:00] <chris> :thumb243491098:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:01] <allixsenos> to work on stuff together
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:04] <Pickley> Nice :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:04] <StarBoyDeath> Okay, hopefully this question will interest the less-technologically-savvy. :D I'm curious, <b>how does the creative team integrate with the actual coders?</b> Like, are they the same people, or do some staff come up with ideas/designs and then other staff are their slaves and write down a whole bunch of code? :D What exactly is the dynamic in devious technology headquarters?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:12] <ArtBIT> I like how all the thumbcodes fail
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:47] <pachunka> :devmccann: accepts responsibility for the broken thumbnails
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:50] <nuckchorris0> ArtBIT: They don't with SuperdAmn.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:54] <Pickley> He should :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:56:54] <allixsenos> StarBoyDeath: creative team produces creative assets, logos, banners ...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:04] <mccann> Must have been drinking.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:05] <Moonbeam13> StarBoyDeath: sumo mud wrestling matches to the death.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:06] <allixsenos> StarBoyDeath: UI team produces UIs, apps, pages...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:19] <kemayo> Then dT says "we're not making that"
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:21] <StarBoyDeath> Moonbeam13: :lmao: I suspected something like that.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:57:29] <allixsenos> they will sometimes supply mockups and cribsheets, sometimes full html and css.. it won't necessarily make it into production verbatim
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:07] <ArtBIT> nuckchorris0: we developers just get the damn-mccann version
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:10] <ArtBIT> :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:15] <StarBoyDeath> So then, what? Does a specific dT person take on the idea?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:33] <nuckchorris0> ArtBIT: Shove SuperdAmn down his throat :thumb45058154:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:33] <knightar> :thumb238490575:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:36] <20after4> we actually get along with creative and work especially closely with UI team. Very little animosity, unlike some other companies
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:40] <allixsenos> projects get assigned UI, Creative, Developer resources
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:41] <randomduck> and then they yell at us when button is 1 pixel to the left of imaginary line
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:48] <mccann> rock paper scissors.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:58:58] <StarBoyDeath> 20after4: deviantART ftw.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:15] <Pickley> randomduck: Good summary of designers :dummy:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:18] <allixsenos> :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:21] <20after4> just to contradict what I said before, randomduck always has animosity
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:26] <liquisoft> I dunno, I'm pretty pissed off at dT for no apparent reason right now.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:29] <20after4> towards everything
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:30] <kemayo> There's some back and forth on it generally. UI designs their ideal version, and dT then gives some feedback as to whether there's anything there which would be difficult to develop. We tend to work out a compromise between those positions.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:39] <Moonbeam13> 20after4: he's very consistent :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:40] <allixsenos> liquisoft: :D :D :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:41] <randomduck> seriously, we work very closely with UI, they are part of each project, in various roles both at product, development and testing stages
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:41] <ArtBIT> /kick liquisoft
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:44] <Tachy-on> lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:46] <nuckchorris0> randomduck: I've done that before. I get pissed at myself when I fail to get it to the pixel on a design.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 22:59:53] <chix0r> liquisoft but you're not UI, are you ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:00:01] <StarBoyDeath> And it seems like specific developers code their own creations. Is that so?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:00:14] <allixsenos> very rarely will developers do the UI that goes into production
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:00:20] <spyed> StarBoyDeath: it may help to know that the UX/UI team (User Experience / User Interface) team is separate from the Creative team, and consists of highly creative people in their own right, but works within the Devious Technology and Product teams. Creative as a department resides in Marketing more directly, and services many departments (marketing, advertising, retail, events like comicon!, etc) and manages brand oversight for "deviantART" and its products. Creative does more than that but, UX is more directly integrated in the creative/project/development process..
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:00:54] <allixsenos> ^^ much better answer than mine
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:00:57] <20after4> I redid the ui on the friends page
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:03] <20after4> just out of frustration mostly
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:04] <randomduck> UI/UX is with Product/DT
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:15] <randomduck> it shows
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:18] <20after4> :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:20] <Moonbeam13> :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:22] <allixsenos> :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:26] <liquisoft> Yeah, the process of any given "product" or feature on the site mostly takes place within UI and dT. Creative will step in when the logo is off kilter.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:32] <spyed> oh dude, it's better.. but... don't take credit directly... I mean, for your own safety.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:37] <mccann> to be fair, it was improvement.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:42] <spyed> major!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:01:56] <mccann> ..an..
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:04] <20after4> developers that are good at design ... are rare and probably not the best developers
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:06] <spyed> but, can't wait to redo the whole system rather than just the friends component. (watching, group lists, etc.)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:14] <Pickley> :nod:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:18] <kemayo> Developers generally don't do design work. Normal flow is for UI to design it, then hand it to us for implementation. If we do wind up designing something then normally it's short-listed for UI attention and tweaking. ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:38] <allixsenos> read: scrapping and redoing
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:41] <Moonbeam13> Make work, not make pretty ;P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:41] <StarBoyDeath> Haha liquisoft nice condensing.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:47] <kemayo> Sssh. I'm being diplomatic.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:49] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: I code mroe than I design, but I occasionally get that nice "stroke of genius"
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:02:51] <LGnome> Read: Read: burning it with fire.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:01] <allixsenos> next question?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:10] <StarBoyDeath> Yep, I'm satisfied.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:11] <HAL2008> StarBoyDeath: Are you all set?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:16] <HAL2008> Fantastic!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:21] <20after4> recent process for search overhaul involves mccann kicking poor starvingartist repeatedly until the design looks right
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:22] <Moonbeam13> StarBoyDeath: twss
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:27] <MC-Frizzle> :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:39] <HAL2008> At this time, we're going to go the panel!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:43] <Pickley> Kick him while hes down? Is that how dT rolls :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:45] <mccann> just to be clear, starvingartist is a specific person. ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:46] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: Did I hear something about a search overhaul?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:51] <nuckchorris0> :thumb34071058:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:55] <dammitMEL> :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:03:57] <20after4> shh
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:02] <allixsenos> it's seekwit
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:03] <Moonbeam13> :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:07] <kemayo> Yeah, we decided that 1000 results was really far too many.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:13] <allixsenos> ROFL
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:20] <chix0r> haha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:21] <allixsenos> room-wide loling and clapping
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:24] <Tachy-on> electricjonny apparently is sleeping. :bucktooth:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:26] <Moonbeam13> Now it's just one result..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:26] <20after4> hahahah
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:33] <Moonbeam13> chix0r: involves a flying strawberry of some sort?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:37] <allixsenos> replacing search with a "I'm feeling lucky"
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:37] <micahgoulart> I'm feeling lucky.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:39] <kemayo> But's it's a really good result. It's always a journal.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:41] <allixsenos> cue 20after4 twss
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:41] <randomduck> the one right result
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:42] <chix0r> Moonbeam13: and some beer, with a few maids
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:43] <knightar> Even with one we're being generous
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:46] <electricjonny> Hey :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:47] <mccann> s/l/y/
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:48] <Pickley> :thumb72204170:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:50] <electricjonny> <b>Why is Stash only a storage system and not a full upload system for third party apps?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:04:57] <20after4> twss
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:16] <kouiskas> it is one
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:23] <spyed> electricjonny: could you elaborate on "full upload system?"
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:25] <randomduck> stash IS a full system for thirdt party apps
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:37] <20after4> that's literally what it was made for afaik
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:39] <Pickley> By full upload we mean all the way through.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:44] <allixsenos> submission?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:46] <kouiskas> publishing included?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:47] <Pickley> to the deviants page
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:48] <Pickley> yeah :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:05:52] <20after4> oh
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:03] <randomduck> stay tuned
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:23] <Pickley> :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:38] <Tachy-on> Does that answer your questoin electricjonny? :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:39] <spyed> electricjonny: you typing.. ?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:42] <allixsenos> spam concern
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:50] <HAL2008> ...did randomduck just go to the bathroom? :paranoid:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:56] <Tachy-on> Pickley elaborated for electricjonny I think.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:06:59] <electricjonny> spyed: I think I'm good
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:03] <Pickley> :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:08] <electricjonny> Yup yup :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:16] <hyperized> <b>Is there going to be someone appointed to the position of Developer Relations once the full API is released for general use?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:26] <20after4> interesting question
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:35] <allixsenos> thanks for volounteering
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:40] <hyperized> :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:44] <Tachy-on> lol
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:07:49] <spyed> electricjonny: summary; there's an API for stash that still needs to be documented, the entire intent is integration with all art related apps.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:02] <electricjonny> Nice :nod:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:02] <randomduck> we will grow the api/apps group within DT and see what happens
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:14] <hyperized> grow the developer ecosystem :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:16] *nuckchorris0 imagines integration directioy into Photoshop
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:21] <kouiskas> what happens is I'll be replying to emails at first until I have too many to reply to
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:27] <Pickley> Nice :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:30] <20after4> nckchorris0: nearly
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:30] <drigh> integrate stash to eyeball
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:33] <20after4> could happen
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:42] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: I would love to see that.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:44] <Pickley> Photoshop plugin :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:47] <kouiskas> it really depends on how many 3rd parties integrate with us and how much demand there is for direct relations
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:08:52] <20after4> I think photoshop lightroom is on a lot of our wishlists
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:09:00] <20after4> it's on my personal wishlist
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:09:04] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: Same.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:09:05] <spyed> nuckchorris0: exactly the thought. might be a plugin... though... many other software publishers we've spoken with are already working on integrations.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:09:14] <kouiskas> email [email protected] for that purpose, one of us will answer
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:09:26] <nuckchorris0> spyed: ooh, that sounds exciting.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:12] <HAL2008> Anything else you guys wanted to add? :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:14] <Pickley> spyed: Any chance of a exclusive announcment of one or two :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:17] <kouiskas> hyperized: satisfactory answer?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:19] <hyperized> spyed: does that include mobile platform providers?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:27] <spyed> Pickley: Muro.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:28] <spyed> lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:33] <Pickley> spyed: :lmao:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:39] <Moonbeam13> spyed: muro ;P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:50] <allixsenos> muro.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:52] <20after4> gimp
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:55] <DEVlANT> Moonbeam13: dA muro ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:56] <20after4> :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:58] <nuckchorris0> Mur. :thumb46963979:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:10:59] <hyperized> kouiskas: hm, if I recap correctly: yes, on a voluntary base?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:02] <nuckchorris0> +o
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:04] <HAL2008> OK, shall we move on to the next question? =P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:18] <Tachy-on> :nod:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:28] <nuckchorris0> <b>Is the Stash replacing the old upload art system and what does this mean about the ability to upload via FTP?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:29] <kouiskas> not voluntary, I'm in charge of the stash API so I do reply to emails coming from 3rd parties
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:29] <HAL2008> nuckchorris0 is up!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:37] <spyed> ... plugin for Gimp, intent of making it a release item... which happens rarely in Gimp land.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:42] <kouiskas> it might become a dedicated position if the need grows beyond
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:44] <hyperized> kouiskas: ah had it confused, got it.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:11:54] <LGnome> spyed: They'll release it, so long as it has six or more windows that may or may not actually stick to the same workspace.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:11] <nuckchorris0> LGnome: :lmao: Yup, that's GIMP!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:20] <spyed> FTP support for Stash will exist.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:23] <knightar> The Stash will replace the old upload system, the FTP will be supported still
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:31] <allixsenos> and MOAR
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:34] <spyed> and if this project, here at this dT off site goes well, email support may also exist, but not a promise...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:35] <randomduck> ftp gateway will be supported, along with other new ones
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:35] <nuckchorris0> Good, good.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:42] <ArtBIT> it'll support llamas as well
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:49] <nuckchorris0> Ooh sounds... painful for the llamas.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:51] <randomduck> llama tunnel
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:54] <Moonbeam13> ArtBIT: llama support is important
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:12:57] <Tachy-on> :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:00] <ArtBIT> 'fcourse
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:07] *nuckchorris0 ties an artwork to a llama and sets it a-digging
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:07] <Pickley> Email support would be awesome :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:16] <spyed> yeah.... email support would definitely be awesome.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:17] <HAL2008> Anybody have anything else to add to that one? :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:22] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: haha the dA Uploader app would be obsolete
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:23] <allixsenos> Pickley: working on it right now
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:29] <ArtBIT> :paranoid:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:30] <Pickley> nuckchorris0: Just a bit :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:34] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0: no it wouldn't, email is cool for mobile
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:54] <knightar> dA Uploader App should be the replacement for it, not the other way around
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:13:58] <HAL2008> Next up we have Pickley. :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:14:00] <Pickley> yup
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:14:03] <Pickley> <b>How do you as deviantART developers feel about applications like dAmnMobile that are paid for products? Also will dA support third party applications, free or paid in some form, whether by featuring them or another form?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:14:31] <hyperized> haha, I knew it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:14:39] <Pickley> Good timing :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:15:17] <20after4> I've got dAmnMobile on my ipad and iphone
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:15:21] <mccann> I haven't used dAmnMobile personally... I am concerned about apps that have to collect username/password from our users... to that end, we are going to address that issue with a new authentication scheme
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:15:58] <nuckchorris0> mccann: Both apps use the OAuth 2.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:02] <Pickley> I have mostly addressed that as I find that an issue myself :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:07] <mccann> We of course don't support thirdparty apps, but we will support our API's that are intended for third party use.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:16] <mccann> Oh, its already converted.. excellent.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:17] <20after4> I don't see any reason to have issue with "paid for" apps ...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:26] <Pickley> Nice to know
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:29] <20after4> if you wanna make money from it then that's cool, right?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:38] <Pickley> What about featuring good apps somehow?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:45] <allixsenos> if you've invested effort into it, it should be ok to make money off of it
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:53] <randomduck> as long as you use supported APIs and dont break terms of service
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:59] <Pickley> Because some of the other developers from the community are working on dAmn clients and such
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:16:59] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: Like DDs for the Apps category?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:06] <Pickley> nuckchorris0: Yes. :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:13] <kouiskas> we will have a page where apps are featured and browsable
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:17] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: Replacing mccann's dAmn? :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:22] <kouiskas> that's why oauth2 apps have a corresponding deviation
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:27] <Pickley> nuckchorris0: :thumb72204170:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:17:52] <nuckchorris0> kouiskas: Will there be any tie-in methods to provide easier App Store linkins, like next to the Share buttons?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:04] <Pickley> There is the download button :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:06] <kouiskas> you can specify an external url for your app
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:16] <allixsenos> which produces a Download button
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:24] <nuckchorris0> Oh goodie.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:34] <mccann> Right, as randomduck mentioned.. as long as third party apps are consistent with terms of service... all should be good. Terms of service agreement, auth api, are helpful tools to ensure a healthy ecosystem
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:18:45] <Pickley> mccann: Awesome :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:00] <HAL2008> And if your app spams #devart it will make llamas cry :(
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:05] <hyperized> Are you going to release example code / applications as well?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:07] <20after4> lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:08] <nuckchorris0> HAL2008: Or die.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:14] <HAL2008> On that note! We'll move on to the Queue now. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:21] <kouiskas> yes we'll release both example code and sample full applications
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:22] <HAL2008> So we'll start with rehael! If everyone's ready.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:28] <hyperized> ready
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:30] <nuckchorris0> I think we are
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:30] <20after4> every time you touch your app spyed kills a llama
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:35] <20after4> :(
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:41] <kouiskas> we'll open source all the OS/mobile clients we've built ourselves
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:46] <Moonbeam13> spyed: :(
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:47] <Pickley> Not the llamas :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:50] <nuckchorris0> spyed: You bastard, how could you do that? :cries:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:50] <hyperized> :D good news
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:57] <rehael> <b>What's the software stack in the shop now, besides MySQL, PHP (are you 5.3 now?), and lots of JavaScript magic? Do you have some NoSQL dwarves there (memcache &#x2014; checked, but&#x2026; Mongo, anyone?), Clojures flying on JVM, nodejs riding Pythons with Rubys on Rails, or other bleeding edge stuff extracted from GitHub bottomless pits? Do you plan to have some of that?</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:19:59] <spyed> I kill no llamas.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:24] <dxd> llama emporer can not kill his subjects!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:30] <Moonbeam13> I feel like I just witnessed an acid trip..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:30] <knightar> Spyed kills no llama's he clones them
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:35] <nuckchorris0> rehael: Best phrased question of the whole day.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:39] <Tachy-on> Moonbeam13: lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:40] <allixsenos> deviantart is all php/mysql except for external custom systems written in c++
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:43] <20after4> I've tried to get nodejs adopted. no success so far
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:45] <mccann> we prefer in house buzzwords. :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:20:46] <randomduck> we have a ban on buzzwords in dt
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:02] <spyed> i just occasionally zap them... a little... just to get the herd on track. :empllama: :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:02] <randomduck> if its on that list - we wont use it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:02] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: I support that. I'm a proud NodeJS fanatic.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:03] <allixsenos> we grow our own, organic buzzwords
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:07] <allixsenos> none of that mass-produced stuff
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:10] <kouiskas> I can't wait for us to transition to visual basic *cough*
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:11] <20after4> back end is written by mccann and his giants (no dwarves)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:13] <kouiskas> in the cloud
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:19] <nuckchorris0> kouiskas: I vomited.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:22] <jekor> Randomduck has been pushing to rewrite the site in Erlang.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:23] <Moonbeam13> 20after4: ogres
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:33] <HAL2008> No lolcode?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:41] <Pickley> No lisp?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:42] <20after4> brainfuck
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:49] <Pickley> 20after4: :highfive:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:51] <nuckchorris0> Rewrite dAmn using Fortran
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:21:57] <20after4> it already is fortran
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:01] <20after4> and cobol
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:01] <nuckchorris0> wat
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:10] <20after4> lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:12] <CitizenAim> LOGO, turtles will replace llamas
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:13] <mccann> anyway, we use some in house tools... we had to solve a lot of those problems before those projects existed.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:15] <20after4> I can't be trusted
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:20] <20after4> chris does like turtles
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:32] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: So I guess that I can't belive what you said about spyed
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:40] <20after4> right
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:46] <HAL2008> OK, so next up we have cynorg!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:50] <kemayo> Write our deploy scripts in LOGO. They'll move a turtle around the server room to push buttons.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:50] <mccann> actually its the intersection of fortran and cobol.. compiles in either language..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:50] <20after4> I'm the chaos monkey in the room
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:22:58] <cynorg> <b>You've spoken a lot about the development environment itself, and how you communicate as a remote workforce, but how do you collaborate on design and planning? Are there platform agnostic tools which you share your ideas / designs / brainstorming (e.g. Freemind), are you all on the same platform using a specific tool (visio/omnigraffle), or do you rely on online realtime shared tools like whiteboards?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:16] <allixsenos> Skype and trac
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:17] <hyperized> I approve of this question
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:28] <ArtBIT> crayons
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:29] <kemayo> We use skype a lot.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:29] <20after4> I hate skype
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:36] <20after4> trac isn't much better
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:36] <kemayo> Skype sucks, also.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:37] <kouiskas> some teams use basecamp and related products
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:47] <mccann> Only through lots of use can one truly hate something.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:50] <jekor> (mudimba here) - Product mockups are now starting to be dA muro drawings :-)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:23:51] <20after4> we should use dAmn ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:02] <HAL2008> I approve.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:10] <HAL2008> Everyone should use dAmn, for everything, all the time.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:13] <kouiskas> google+ lately for video calls
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:14] <allixsenos> Skype is used for day-to-day, trac is used for tickets/work tracking
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:15] <20after4> hard to scream "damn's down" if we had to use damn to communicate ...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:17] <Pickley> 20after4: You should :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:27] <kemayo> Individual teams have a lot of freedom to use whichever tools they feel like. We don't force all projects onto the same toolchain.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:42] <nuckchorris0> HAL2008: IUt's like the congress getting nice healthcare thing :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:45] <ArtBIT> but we all use crayons
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:47] <ArtBIT> trufax
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:50] <nuckchorris0> devs get nicer chat systems.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:24:51] <mccann> some of us personally use freemind ... but one man's 'mindmap' is another's 'wtf'
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:01] <LGnome> nuckchorris0: Clearly you haven't used Skype.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:22] <nuckchorris0> LGnome: I have, and it doesn't have a server crash every week and a client that can freeze the Fox of fire.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:29] <LGnome> I think most of us would like to stab Skype in the face, honestly. :devil:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:38] <nuckchorris0> LGnome: Switch to Google+
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:43] <mccann> ok, next :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:43] <kemayo> I remember that paid vacation we all got a few months ago when all the skype supernodes died for two days. That was nice.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:46] <LGnome> nuckchorris0: We are playing with it a bit.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:25:50] <knightar> :thumb243496634:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:26:02] <HAL2008> <b>Next up we have namenotrequired</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:26:45] <namenotrequired> I have a question that I guess doesn't require much geeky knowledge :dummy <b>What ever happened with the About Me widget (as we can see them now on :devHAL2008:'s page for example)? As far as I know, it went through Alpha testing a while ago, and then through Team A/B testing with newer deviants, but since then I've only seen it back on the pages of people who had it already, staff or other testers, and nothing seems to have been happening on that front again. So what will happen to it now? </b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:26:50] <namenotrequired> :dummy:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:27:32] <allixsenos> it's an ongoing project
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:06] <namenotrequired> allixsenos: does that mean it's still being tweaked?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:09] <LGnome> $jekor is having his laptop borrowed again for a more detailed answer.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:24] <namenotrequired> Thank you :3
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:47] <jekor> (adahacker standing in for jekor) namenotrequired: We're working on rolling that out now.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:49] <allixsenos> $randomduck has just filed a ticket to fix the thumbnails in dAmn
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:28:56] <Pickley> About time :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:01] <nuckchorris0> :lmao:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:03] <Pickley> can we get png's fixed too?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:04] <nuckchorris0> FINALLY!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:10] <allixsenos> give an inch...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:12] <Pickley> or it is gifs lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:14] <allixsenos> what's wrong with pngs?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:16] <Pickley> :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:18] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: Hear hear
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:22] <nuckchorris0> allixsenos: black background
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:25] <jekor> I think we're going to be doing another round of alpha testing soon and then general release to everybody.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:28] <kemayo> Since it seems to just be the subdomain being a bit www-y, it shouldn't be that bad.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:34] <nuckchorris0> It has a silly shadow if it's PNG or GIF
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:41] <nuckchorris0> Or atl east PNG
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:52] <pachunka> namenotrequired: also it's being renamed from "about me" back to "deviant id"
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:29:55] <randomduck> just chat? we fixed it elsewhere
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:07] <namenotrequired> jekor: I see! Will it be part of v8? Or has that not been decided yet?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:11] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0 Pickley: I'll file a ticket to investigate and hopefully fix
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:17] <Pickley> allixsenos: :dummy:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:20] <nuckchorris0> randomduck: They still have shadows.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:20] <randomduck> no, chat has idea about transparency, would have to loose shadows for all
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:22] <nuckchorris0> Thanks :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:36] <nuckchorris0> randomduck: Put them on JPEGs.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:37] <namenotrequired> pachunka: ah, will it also use a deviation for the image again?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:42] <randomduck> i meant, chat has no idea about image props
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:43] <nuckchorris0> Just not PNGs or GIFs :thumb45058154:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:30:53] <HAL2008> <b>And last but not least, we have theneongreensage!</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:12] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0: we will look into it :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:15] <HAL2008> But really quick, I just want to point out that we had (from what I saw) a peak of about 150 deviants here today :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:15] <20after4> imo shadows suck
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:24] <theneongreensage> So, in light of the very chat network we're using for this event hiccuping, knocking all the users offline, several times within an hours of this event starting, I have to ask. What's the deal with the chat network, why does it go offline so often, when the rest of the site doesn't seem to, what's with all the glitches?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:31] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: They do, but as it is, they're nto via box-shadow which is silly.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:48] <Pickley> the tough question :thumb72204170:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:51] <randomduck> we have pngs with jpg extensions and vice versa :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:52] <kemayo> box-shadow has performance implications.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:31:57] <nuckchorris0> randomduck: ewww
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:32:13] <kemayo> e.g. We put box-shadow on the lit display box and it made scrolling on literature deviations a nightmare.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:32:13] <20after4> shadow images have performance implications too
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:32:36] <20after4> ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:32:43] <nuckchorris0> randomduck: Check your mime :thumb10909369:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:32:48] <mccann> for some reason, some of our networking equipment doesn't support long running connections..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:10] <allixsenos> like mime sniffing ever worked anywhere on the planet
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:10] <ArtBIT> nuckchorris0: looks nice
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:12] <nuckchorris0> mccann: It's not the server, it's the routers?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:13] <ArtBIT> :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:19] <mccann> (when they switch)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:27] <20after4> the load balancers?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:40] <20after4> that doesn't knock out all chat sessions though all at once does it?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:50] <nuckchorris0> uh yeah
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:33:57] <nuckchorris0> Isn't dAmn just a single server?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:06] <20after4> mccann: you mean when the load balancers fail over?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:08] <allixsenos> it's still going through load-balancers
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:19] <mccann> when load balancers fail over... damn breaks
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:28] <20after4> :(
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:31] <20after4> poor damn
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:39] <dxd> it needs a cuddle
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:46] <mccann> Its something to look into, see if there is a workaround..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:47] <pachunka> ...I don't recall that happening several times since the start of the chat...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:49] *nuckchorris0 cuddles the server
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:34:58] <Pickley> dAmn needs loads of cuddles
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:05] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: That it does :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:12] <theneongreensage> before the chat.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:13] <20after4> I don't recall it happening at all I've been connected for quite a long time
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:27] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: We've had two restarts today :thumb45058154:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:33] <chix0r> I can confirm we had a few random reboots about an hour before the chat event
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:33] <Pickley> right before the event :thumb72204170:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:40] <chix0r> I had to restart it twice
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:42] <dxd> one of them was my fault
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:44] <20after4> the client-&gt;server connection should be stateless so that it can reconnect silently
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:45] <Pickley> chix0r was playing :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:52] <20after4> without losing a beat
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:35:58] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: That'd be nice.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:04] <theneongreensage> 2:04, 2:44, 3:46 pm edt. for instance.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:12] <nuckchorris0> Soembody cuddled the chat server TOO much.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:16] <20after4> lol
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:20] <20after4> chris!!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:21] <drigh> 20after4: and written in haskell
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:22] <hyperized> <b>I heared the mention of cloud before, do you guys use a form of server virtualisation and if so what hypervisor do you use?</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:22] <Tachy-on> Okay hyperized has another question...
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:31] <allixsenos> no
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:33] <20after4> hahah drigh is jekor's sock puppet
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:40] <pachunka> [hold a sec, every one here is discussing what might be causing the dAmn bug :p]
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:47] <Pickley> :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:49] <electricjonny> Hahaha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:52] <20after4> we only use virtualization for development
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:36:56] <allixsenos> no virtualisation used to run deviantart.com
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:05] <chris> we are considering using xen in the future, but right now have no need
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:05] <electricjonny> I heard it was groups :bucktooth:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:18] <mccann> next please
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:39] <chris> as it is, virtualization is used to put multiple small servers on one big server...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:42] <HAL2008> Thanks theneongreensage. :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:37:51] <chris> but dA servers all use all resources
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:02] <nuckchorris0> <b>Will the dAmn chat system be rebuilt on a newer technology stack in the future?</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:06] <chris> so virtualization doesn't make sense in most cases, and would just add overhead
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:16] <mccann> nuckchorris0: in the year 2000
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:19] <20after4> now if they figure out how to virtualize several big servers into one small server...then chris will put his turtles on it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:28] <hyperized> :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:33] <knightar> Next question
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:35] <pachunka> long future is long
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:36] <20after4> that's what I call a software stack
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:38:58] <nuckchorris0> I mean, NodeJS is PERFECT for such a server
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:20] <pachunka> PERFECT?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:23] <Tachy-on> Pickley, go ahead with your question. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:27] <Pickley> <b>What platform do each of you use to develop on? E.g. Windows, OSX, Linux? What phone do you use personally? What language do each of you personally prefer to program in and use for your own projects? Also what source control management system do you use?</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:30] <mudimba> You will not likely see NodeJS used for anything in the near future
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:36] <knightar> NodeJS doesn't scale
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:39] <LGnome> nuckchorris0: It's better, but nothing's perfect. I've been in a conference talk where the presenter asserted that, and the audience very rapidly destroyed the node.js based chat server.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:40] <nuckchorris0> Real-time, able to handle thousands of clients, and easy to maintain. So why C.*?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:40] <hyperized> Pickley: :stare:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:39:45] <Pickley> hyperized: :thumb72204170:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:07] <randomduck> NodeJS is perfect for chris's small turtle server pretending to be 20 big ones? I agree
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:11] <nuckchorris0> LGnome: Node is a pretty good thing, but it's only recently stabilized.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:12] <allixsenos> Pickley: OSX, Komodo IDE... Android phones... php and python... svn
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:26] *DEVlANT uses windows
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:27] <mudimba> Most people use Macs, some Linux, maybe there is one windows box
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:31] <mccann> I had dinner with NodeJS author... FYI :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:34] <20after4> i develop on ubuntu 11.04 with dAvm running inside a linux kernel virtual machine (kvm)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:36] <LGnome> In order: OS X under sufferance, Linux by preference. HTC Desire HD. I use PHP a lot, but also like Python, JS and Scala, and Git's by far my favourite SCM.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:41] <chris> OSX, iPhone 4, PHP, Subversion
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:40:52] <aMoniker> Pickley: OSX, Textmate, iPhone, English, and svn
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:03] <nuckchorris0> mccann: Ah, you got to hang out with Ryah?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:03] *drigh won't ever tell that we uses win7
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:11] <drigh> _he
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:19] <mccann> nuckchorris0: yes
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:22] <allixsenos> Pickley: phone in more detail: HTC Desire Z at the moment, waiting for the next full hardware keyboard android generation
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:23] <chris> drigh: we'll see if we can fix that before you leave
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:27] <mudimba> My favorite language is hq9+
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:30] <Pickley> Bunch of *nix users :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:44] <LGnome> Also, I just bought an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (Android tablet), and it is awesome. Can't recommend it enough.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:47] <randomduck> OSX, iOS and usual assortment of tools
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:49] <ArtBIT> Pickley: Linux, HTC | iPhone, actionScript | javaScript, SVN
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:51] <kemayo> OSX, Textmate, Android (Optimus V). For personal stuff I like Python, but I do a lot of hobby writing of WoW addons which is Lua.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:51] <nuckchorris0> mccann: Lucky :grump: The best I get is offers to hang out with issac schluter, the man behind NPM. And I can't even take him up on it.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:41:51] <drigh> chris: I'm not letting you to even get close to my lovely laptop
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:04] <20after4> pretty much that ^
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:04] <20after4> and I do personal projects in JS mostly
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:08] <kemayo> Oh, and I use git for personal stuff.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:10] <Pickley> Awesome :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:14] <Tachy-on> cool
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:17] <knightar> Next?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:22] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: ILU already.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:24] <Tachy-on> Okay, electricjonny, you're up...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:28] <electricjonny> This is from :devphotofroggy::
 	<b>Why is the username/password flow nonexistent in the implementation of the API as it stands currently? This flow would be ideal for the dAmn chat bots to use instead of resorting to page scraping.</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:30] <20after4> yeah git is awesome but svn for work
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:34] <kemayo> I'm sure you can look up most of our usernames on github. :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:42:42] <Tachy-on> Then we'll have one last question from hyperized and we'll wrap this up. :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:43:10] <allixsenos> electricjonny: there's an API for damn, username/password flow is just a basic security 101 nono
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:43:33] <kemayo> You can use the new API to get a token for damn. No username/password scraping.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:43:38] <nuckchorris0> I can't see the problem. It's secured, plus it's only a one-time thing
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:43:48] <nuckchorris0> Then you get your token and refresh toekn
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:01] <hyperized> Ok here's the last one for today
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:05] <Pickley> and dump the username and pass :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:08] <hyperized> <b>We already covered the mobile part of this, but will deviantART be more supportive of open source projects based around the site in the future? And will deviantART contribute any projects themselves?</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:13] <nuckchorris0> pcikExactly
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:19] <nuckchorris0> Pickley even
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:44:59] <Pickley> :P
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:45:05] <kemayo> We think that Stash is an awesome tool for open source projects to use.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:45:58] <Pickley> Would you consider contributing to other porjects yourself
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:01] <pachunka> we're also distributing example open source projects
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:03] <20after4> damn wifi is so reliable
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:11] <20after4> not dAmn
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:14] <hyperized> In context, Facebook for example contributes to the open source community with PHP fixes and things like hiphop
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:14] <Pickley> or is that something you as developers would do in your personal time to?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:15] <20after4> :-o
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:17] <pachunka> the osx stash uploader is open source
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:21] <pachunka> so will the android example app be
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:29] <LGnome> hyperized: Facebook employ an awful lot more people than dA does. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:36] <kemayo> Similarly other APIs we're putting out. If we have an API for it then we like open source people using it.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:43] <allixsenos> Pickley: developers support / contribute to open source projects individually
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:47] <20after4> as for contributing to open source projects that we use - I heard mccann talking about doing just that
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:51] <Pickley> Ah cool
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:51] <allixsenos> I've filed bugs and patches to jQuery
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:56] <allixsenos> others have done similar stuff too
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:46:59] <LGnome> Indeed. For instance, I actually am a PHP contributor, outside of my work for dA.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:10] <hyperized> :) that is what we like to hear!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:11] *nuckchorris0 &lt;3s all you JS devs
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:13] <Pickley> So as you find bugs yourself you patch and such :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:18] <kemayo> I was happy when my jquery bug finally got fixed. It survived through something like four major releases. :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:20] <Pickley> Awesome
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:35] <nuckchorris0> kemayo: isn't jQuery still on 1.8?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:55] <allixsenos> Pickley: when bugs are found that are clearly caused by libraries we depend on, we will file bugs... if it's something that we fix internally, we'll also file a patch
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:57] <20after4> we are on jQuery 1.5 I believe
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:47:59] <20after4> :(
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:04] <nuckchorris0> Speaking of jQuery, will dAmn ever use it?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:10] <kemayo> 1.6. For jQuery I think of those point releases as being major.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:15] <Pickley> allixsenos: Cool :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:15] <nuckchorris0> It's got something like a million "create div" functions
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:20] <kemayo> They certainly break enough stuff with them.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:21] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0: why does it matter?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:31] <nuckchorris0> I think mccann made it purposely hard to maintain
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:32] <pachunka> $(dAmn_ChatPage_init); is in the source of this page
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:33] <allixsenos> nuckchorris0: if you're doing custom scripts, you can just embed it yourself
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:34] <pachunka> damn does use it ;)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:48:49] <nuckchorris0> pachunka: Not as much as the odd dAmn_ functions
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:03] <hyperized> I think my question is answered. On behalf of the Panel i'd like to thank the attendees and the staff for answering our questions :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:12] <pachunka> it was made before jquery existed
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:13] <pachunka> and works fine
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:23] <allixsenos> thanks for the questions :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:25] <mudimba> Thanks a lot everybody, it was really fun chatting with you
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:25] <Pickley> Thanks to all of the $'s for coming in :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:27] <Tachy-on> hyperized: Thanks guys, you've been great.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:29] <Tachy-on> <b>Well that wraps it up! Thanks everyone for coming and hanging out with us! We hope you've learned more about the technical side of deviantART! We'll unmute the Audience now and everyone can mingle. :boogie:</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:31] <LGnome> Thanks everyone!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:32] <nuckchorris0> pachunka: It's just the epitome of unmaintable unextensible code.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:36] <nuckchorris0> Thanks guys!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:38] <allixsenos> thank you all for showing the interest
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:39] <MC-Frizzle> Thanks guys! :heart:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:43] <MC-Frizzle> Keep on rocking
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:45] <ArtBIT> :wave:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:45] <spyed> plz don't kick everyone out of the auditorium
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:45] ** Privilege class '' has been updated by Tachy-on with: +msg
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:46] <nuckchorris0> We really appreciate this all, we've learned a lot!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:46] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: <b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY LK !!!!!! :squee: :llama: :squee:</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:47] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: <b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY LK !!!!!! :squee: :llama: :squee:</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:47] <Wi6791lly> mingle mingle mingle mingle
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:47] <namenotrequired> :wave: thanks so much guys :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:48] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: <b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY LK !!!!!! :squee: :llama: :squee:</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:48] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: <b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY LK !!!!!! :squee: :llama: :squee:</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:48] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: <b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY LK !!!!!! :squee: :llama: :squee:</b>
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:50] <iamthejoey> awe, i missed this.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:51] <hyperized> or not
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:52] <Pickley> spam lololol
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:53] <knightar> :llama:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:55] <MC-Frizzle> /ban SaTaNiA
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:49:57] <namenotrequired> SaTaNiA: :stare:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:00] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: stop being like spyed llama spam &gt;.&gt;
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:01] <iamthejoey> sadface
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:01] <deshrubber> Ayame-Kenoshi: :wave:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:02] <nuckchorris0> :lmao: SaTaNiA
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:02] <drigh> go llamas!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:02] <lost-angle> :glomp: knightar
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:04] <Moonbeam13> bring on the llamas
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:07] <Moonlit-RainStorm> o.o
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:08] <Rickondraw> omg my brain hurts now ;3
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:11] <MC-Frizzle> :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:12] <IsaRat> can anyone type now?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:12] <SaTaNiA> Wi6791lly: :nana:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:13] <electricjonny> Thanks you geeky peeps :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:16] <Gwendolyn12> yo
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:16] <cynorg> thanks all, interesting stuff!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:17] <ebonypen> dragonguilders: ahoy
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:17] <namenotrequired> IsaRat: :nod:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:18] <SaTaNiA> MC-Frizzle: :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:18] <anmari> :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:18] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: :grump:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:20] <IsaRat> ALRIGTHY!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:20] <spyed> HAPPY BIRHTHDAY LAUREN! :LLAMA: :squee:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:20] <MC-Frizzle> :llama:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:21] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:22] <MademoiselleGrief> Damn I missed most of it. Will a transcript be posted?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:23] <trezoid> Sweet, I can fall asleep again now?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:24] <namenotrequired> Gwendolyn12: :glomp:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:26] <knightar> :llama:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:27] <spyed> aww cap llama.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:30] <MC-Frizzle> trezoid: maybe :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:31] <electricnet> :#1:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:33] <Gwendolyn12> namenotrequired: geeks:stare:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:33] <nuckchorris0> laurenkitsune: Happy barfday
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:37] <Pickley> electricnet: Omg hai
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:37] <IsaRat> :hugllama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:41] <namenotrequired> trezoid: sleep well :3
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:41] <trezoid> MC-Frizzle: :number1:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:41] <Wi6791lly> :thumb123245023: we should all do massive llama spam go for the world record of most llama spam in 12 seconds
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:42] <lost-angle> :tighthug: spyed
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:43] <nuckchorris0> spyed: Why would you cap them? :noes:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:43] <SaTaNiA> spyed: she seems to ignore us :thumb68344829:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:47] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: ohaider!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:47] <electricnet> Pickley: Omg hello :nerd:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:49] <MC-Frizzle> electricjonny: yo dawg i herd i liek llama so we put llama in your da so you can lol while you dA :llama:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:51] <Gwendolyn12> who is having birthday?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:52] <Parka87> man.... my question about a dating service for the dT team disn¿t cach on
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:53] <MC-Frizzle> &avatar	xzibitplz	7
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:58] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: How's Google?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:58] <DEVlANT> dxd: :stare:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:50:59] <namenotrequired> Gwendolyn12: laurenkitsune
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:06] <cynorg> n1 mc-frizzle
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:09] <electricjonny> MC-Frizzle: I still shrink those blasted things ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:09] <ebonypen> I bet there's llama meat in spam :spam:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:09] <prosaix> &avatar	prosaixplz	13
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:11] <Gwendolyn12> laurenkitsune: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!:party:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:11] <dammitMEL> D:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:13] <SaTaNiA> DEVlANT: :thumb28029460:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:22] <Pickley> spyed: randomduck Think we could pull some of you aside into another chat?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:22] <liquisoft> Holy crap I leave for an hour and come back and it's a llama party.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:26] <Wi6791lly> I still has question
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:28] <SaTaNiA> spyed: what about V8 no oneo asked this :p ?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:28] <dxd> DEVlANT: WHAT?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:32] <IsaRat> byebye !!!! Im going to sleepy with mah Kittes!!!!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:37] <electricnet> liquisoft: It's always like that, isn't it? :(
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:39] <20after4> vegitable juice?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:44] <JellymanMyComicGuy> MC-Frizzle: :thumb68344829: <abbr title="colors:4A0165:976E44"></abbr>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:45] <hyperized> chris: also, I'm interested to follow up a bit about the peering thing, I think it can be economical with as little as 10mbit/s
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:45] <dammitMEL> HAI liquisoft!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:47] <namenotrequired> liquisoft: what do you expect in an hour long chat event... :bucktooth:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:48] <rehael> Thanks for the answers, it was really nice reading you all. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:48] <lost-angle> liquisoft: what do you expect?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:50] <Wi6791lly> :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:51] <liquisoft> electricnet: it's like that at work too!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:52] <MC-Frizzle> JellymanMyComicGuy: :thumb10112890:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:57] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: :heart:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:57] <JellymanMyComicGuy> MC-Frizzle: :thumb147518335: <abbr title="colors:4A0165:976E44"></abbr>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:57] <laurenkitsune> Hey, thanks! Gwendolyn12 and namenotrequired!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:51:58] <liquisoft> Come in, llamas everywhere.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:03] <Wi6791lly> :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:04] <MC-Frizzle> liquisoft: How life should be.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:04] <dxd> oh noes it's liquisoft
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:09] <Gwendolyn12> laurenkitsune: :love:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:12] <DEVlANT> dxd: how's work =p
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:12] <SaTaNiA> Dan14Lev: I hope you feel better dude :hug:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:16] <electricjonny> I could spam llamas, but MNBot banned me last time I did that :bucktooth:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:20] <deshrubber> laurenkitsune: &avatar	smackdatplz	13
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:21] <electricnet> liquisoft: It sure was like that when I was there.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:23] <laurenkitsune> Thanks, SaTaNiA :X
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:23] <namenotrequired> liquisoft: :llama: &lt; this one's for you
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:26] <dxd> DEVlANT: MANY MESSAGES
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:27] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: speaking of which how are you?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:31] <laurenkitsune> SaTaNiA: OOPS, I meant :D
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:40] <lost-angle> :tighthug: liquisoft
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:41] <IsaRat> LGnome: Have fun with the cake and balloons downstairs ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:41] <MC-Frizzle> HEY DXD Y U NO ANSWER MY 304329 HALP TIKKETZ
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:44] <MC-Frizzle> :thumb100843550:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:46] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: :heart:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:47] <nuckchorris0> 20after4, aMoniker, chris, DEVlANT, knightar, LGnome, micahgoulart, pachunka, randomduck, rdonaldson: If any of you $'s want input for anything, feel free to come around in #DevelopingDevelopers, we're always around and happy to see staffers!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:47] *dxd bans MC-Frizzle
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:51] <Wi6791lly> :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:53] <MC-Frizzle> :grump:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:55] <Pickley> nuckchorris0: iswydt
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:56] <Wi6791lly> MC-Frizzle: :pat:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:52:59] <electricnet> nuckchorris0: It's cool, but it was awesome to come here and enjoy some geekery right here on dA! :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:00] <SaTaNiA> laurenkitsune: I hope you enjoyed your day hun :heart:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:06] <liquisoft> Did everyone know it's laurenkitsune's birthday?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:11] <Pickley> :cake:?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:13] <nuckchorris0> MinisterPickles<abbr title="Pickley"></abbr>: :bucktooth:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:14] <20after4> nuckchorris0: cool
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:14] <DEVlANT> dxd: sounds fun :B
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:16] <namenotrequired> liquisoft: well if we didn't yet we would now
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:18] <electricnet> The llama party said that it was.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:18] <Moonbeam13> electricnet: there was an extra dose of geekified to this chat :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:20] <MC-Frizzle> liquisoft: SaTaNiA vaguely reminded us with a nice llama flood
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:21] <namenotrequired> liquisoft: thanks to SaTaNiA's spamming :bucktooth:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:21] <MC-Frizzle> :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:23] <ebonypen> is it now? let's sing!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:23] <Wi6791lly> How do you DA nerds get any work down? It seems you get offtopic every 12 seconds....
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:28] <nuckchorris0> laurenkitsune: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOOOOO YOOOOUUUUU!~
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:28] <YukiiKun> Dan14Lev: I hope you feel better now :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:31] <SaTaNiA> Wi6791lly: i'm fine thx bro :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:32] <knightar> :thumb243517551:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:33] <anmari> laurenkitsune: PARTY :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:34] <hyperized> Wi6791lly: lol
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:36] <Parka87> I really wanted to ask about a dating service, I mean there is usmilitarysingles[dot]com, why not prettymuchalldTatyourservice[dot]com?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:37] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: :love:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:37] <nuckchorris0> YOU SMELL LIKE A ZOO
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:40] <electricnet> Moonbeam13: Just how I prefer it. :nerd:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:41] <namenotrequired> knightar: is it working? :eager:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:41] <laurenkitsune> nuckchorris0: anmari WHOO HOO
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:42] <prosaix> laurenkitsune: Happy Birthday &avatar	prosaixplz	13
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:45] <Moonbeam13> Dan14Lev: Did you give laurenkitsune your appendix for her birthday?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:47] <20after4> nuckchorris0: we mostly work from home ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:48] <Wi6791lly> hyperized: thats a serious question xD
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:51] <laurenkitsune> Moonbeam13: hahaha
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:55] <anmari> laurenkitsune: pics or it never happened!
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:57] <dammitMEL> Parka87: I'm pretty sure dT has no issues finding ladies.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:57] <laurenkitsune> prosaix: Whut whuuut
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:58] <electricnet> Wi6791lly: That's a lie&#x2014;HEY SOMETHING SHINY
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:53:59] <LGnome> Parka87: All I can say is that I hope you like bearded guys.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:05] <electricjonny> 20after4: Working at home and your own hours, nice =P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:05] <Danium> dammitMEL: Im on top of you :thumb137448020:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:08] <Wi6791lly> electricjonny: :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:12] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: And you don't have dAmnputers?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:16] <JellymanMyComicGuy> MC-Frizzle: :thumb160162440: I know how it is. <abbr title="colors:4A0165:976E44"></abbr>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:17] <dammitMEL> Danium: Get off me. &gt;:|
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:19] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: :lol: wow nice electricjonny and electricnet &gt;.&gt;
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:21] <SaTaNiA> MC-Frizzle: namenotrequired :nana:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:22] <Moonbeam13> dammitMEL: we have, by far, the hottest coders anywhere.. just saying.
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:27] <Danium> dammitMEL: I meant DaPineapple :cry:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:32] <SaTaNiA> MC-Frizzle: namenotrequired you jealous guyz ! :nana:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:33] <anmari> oh spinegrinder, answer my email :spank:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:34] <electricjonny> Wi6791lly: Yup, me and electricnet are tab buddies :lol:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:36] <dammitMEL> Moonbeam13: I want to live in their beards.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:39] <electricnet> Wi6791lly: Problem? :thumb206190134:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:40] <PrairieEagle> spyed: can I know what MNBot is running?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:40] <Parka87> LGnome: I'll give it a try if I can throw an exeption at any time and kick off
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:42] <Wi6791lly> electricjonny: :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:52] <DaPineapple> ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:52] *lost-angle agrees with Moonbeam13, they are hot coders
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:52] <Danium> electricjonny: electricnet you are the same person trufax
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:53] <20after4> nuckchorris0: dAmnputers?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:53] <dxd> i wish i still had my beard
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:56] <dxd> but i'm not a coder
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:57] <Moonbeam13> PrairieEagle: that's a question for Tachy-on
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:54:59] <MC-Frizzle> PrairieEagle: MNBot is running a slave trade
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:00] <HyperGogeta> so Ive never been in this chatroom before..
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:04] <Tachy-on> PrairieEagle: MNBot is based on python. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:07] <dammitMEL> DaPineapple: :smooch:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:07] <dxd> we have the hottest CEA team too :p
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:07] <Danium> dxd: you look like a gnome with one :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:07] <electricjonny> Danium: Clearly
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:07] <MC-Frizzle> :paranoid:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:10] <SaTaNiA> MC-Frizzle: and real good chat finish with a real llama flood :thumb147182142:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:10] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: yes so doesn't help that I can't spell electric half the time either xD
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:14] <dxd> Danium: :thumb68344829:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:15] <MC-Frizzle> SaTaNiA: true that
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:16] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: Yes, it's a new netbook :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:18] <PrairieEagle> Tachy-on: which one? Pybot, komodo?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:21] <Moonbeam13> dxd: well except for you but we're making an exception
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:22] <DaPineapple> dammitMEL: :huggle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:24] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: more llama flood :thumb134375207:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:24] <electricnet> Danium: That's right. I would apparently do anything to not be named "Eric", even if I have to be named "Jonny". :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:26] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: It's the ol' Pybot core, right?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:27] <PrairieEagle> or one of yours
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:32] <Ayame-Kenoshi> deshrubber: Hai! :wave:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:33] <SaTaNiA> Wi6791lly: yeah :llama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:34] <dxd> Moonbeam13: that's not what you said last night!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:36] <Ayame-Kenoshi> SaTaNiA: :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:37] <Danium> dxd: I thought you were a proud irish/scot/brithoar/whatever :paranoid:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:40] <20after4> most of us have company-issue macbook pros
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:43] <Wi6791lly> :iconrainbowllama:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:45] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: Have you upgraded it for newer versions of Python, or is it still the same old core?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:48] <Wi6791lly> spelling &gt;.&gt;
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:48] <Moonbeam13> dxd: Clearly I was drunk for I have 'blacked out' anything to the contrary :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:49] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: how are you hun ? :love:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:49] *20after4 has the only non-pro
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:49] <Tachy-on> PrairieEagle: pybot but it's been changed a bit over the years...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:50] <Danium> electricnet: whats wrong with eric? :crying:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:52] <nuckchorris0> 20after4: :thumb56323318: Lucky.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:52] <electricnet> Wi6791lly: Type the first couple letters and press the Tab button. You're welcome! :iconforscience:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:53] <Wi6791lly> &avatar	rainbowllamaplz	5
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:53] <HyperGogeta> wow this is ALLOT bigger than the devart chat.. surprised i havent found this
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:53] <lost-angle> :tighthug: Ayame-Kenoshi
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:57] <dark--lite> Wi6791lly: :no:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:55:59] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: it's been a while :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:01] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: I do xD
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:04] <dark--lite> Wi6791lly: :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:05] <anmari> 20after4: my macbook fails on dAmn :no:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:06] <Pickley> 20after4: You has no pro? :thumb53878678:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:07] <Moonbeam13> HyperGogeta: it's a featured chat it's not like this all the time :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:07] <electricjonny> I just putz around on my 7 computer and Notepad++ :slow:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:07] <namenotrequired> 20after4: did you get them from the company? :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:07] <dxd> Danium: i'm half scot and i am proud, however i am trying to fix my skin after working at the garage
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:08] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0: it runs on 2.4 and won't run on anything higher - I haven't had the time to port it :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:13] <anmari> 20after4: wrong charset
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:15] <electricnet> Wi6791lly: Then you don't really need to spell it! :thumb206193176:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:18] <Danium> dxd: did you quit that job?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:18] <Wi6791lly> with all this chatting I am so gonna have a fire
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:19] <20after4> haz unibody macbook
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:21] <Pickley> 20after4: I demand picture of all laptops lined up :thumb147182142:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:26] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: I do if I want to tab you and not electricjonny
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:27] <Moonbeam13> Ayame-Kenoshi: I made a pillow fort every night I was in New York, in your honor.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:28] <dxd> Danium: of course
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:29] <Wi6791lly> xD
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:30] <HyperGogeta> Moonbeam13: ..did it JUST get moved to featured?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:34] <electricnet> Wi6791lly: Press tab twice.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:37] <dxd> Moonbeam13: that'd be the roofie
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:41] <Ayame-Kenoshi> SaTaNiA: I'm good! Off to Comic-Con tomorrow and feeling tired already xD How's you?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:43] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: Ah, nice. I hear you have some epically unique things :D
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:46] <ebonypen> HyperGogeta: because you just missed a DT chat... it was a big event. and we learned about the dA's guts! :dummy:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:46] <Moonbeam13> HyperGogeta: Yes we had an event here today with Devious technology :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:46] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: wow thats convient :huggle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:50] <PrairieEagle> Tachy-on: any chance you can give us the source? noone else has a working, uptodate pybot.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:52] <Danium> dxd: get clinique :thumb9470276:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:56:57] <Ayame-Kenoshi> lost-angle: Haiii! :heart:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:08] <lost-angle> Ayame-Kenoshi: :heart:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:08] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: i'm fine still recovering from the surgery but i'm really better :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:10] <rootFOX> hey guys
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:11] <Moonbeam13> dxd: my husband has a similar story about his proposal and my acceptance..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:13] <Wi6791lly> electricnet: now they just need to put the thumb link back where it was and belongs
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:14] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0: yeah, some neat changes over the years...
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:15] <electricnet> Ayame-Kenoshi: Oh boy, you guys have an awesome time at SDCC! :love:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:18] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: oh geezus SDCC :faint:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:24] <HyperGogeta> , ok im confused, but i understood enough to know this is just an event
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:25] <dark--lite> Wi6791lly: agree
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:29] <SaTaNiA> Ayame-Kenoshi: a tons of support from me hun :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:31] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: I hear banlist is still revolutionary
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:32] <n8iveattitude1> :omg:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:32] <rootFOX> what's the topic of this conversation?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:36] <Ayame-Kenoshi> Moonbeam13: :XD: So jealous! I wish you were coming to Comic-Con with us!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:38] <Wi6791lly> <b>Who things the Thumb link should be back where it is?</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:42] <Tachy-on> PrairieEagle: Eh, it's been changed too much for volunteer stuff... it'd be a pain to take stuff out I'd need to take out :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:44] <HyperGogeta> yes, im kind of slow to this kind if stuff
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:46] <Wi6791lly> <b>where it was xD</b>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:49] <IamHardcore78> Whats up people?! :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:49] <Ayame-Kenoshi> Moonbeam13: Err, xD We could make awesome forts ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:51] <Danium> thumblink?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:51] <n8iveattitude1> Wi6791lly: i think it's fine
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:51] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0: banlist is a thumbbot thing.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:51] <namenotrequired> HyperGogeta: not anymore, the event is over
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:57] <odonnell004> test
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:57] <steph1254> Woah so many people D:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:58] <namenotrequired> hi IamHardcore78 :wave:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:58] <Wi6791lly> n8iveattitude1: :shrug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:58] <electricjonny> Who thinks :thumb129621564: should work by default? :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:59] <SaTaNiA> Wi6791lly: it's good where it is :p
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:57:59] <dxd> Danium: clinique doesn't work on my skin, it doesn't like my excema, i use clarins men stuff mostly
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:02] <rootFOX> ah ok
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:02] <electricjonny> Is the question
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:03] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: Were you hear for the whole thing?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:03] <rootFOX> cya
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:05] <HyperGogeta> ..
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:06] <Wi6791lly> SaTaNiA: I got so confused trying to find it
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:06] <SaTaNiA> n8iveattitude1: :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:09] <IamHardcore78> namenotrequired: Hi hi!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:11] <Danium> dxd: clarins is good :nod:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:12] <n8iveattitude1> SaTaNiA: :hug; hi!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:13] <RotoDisk> steph1254: :tighthug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:13] <electricnet> nuckchorris0: The latter half of it.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:15] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: Orly? I thought you had one on yours too &gt;_&gt;
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:18] <Moonbeam13> HyperGogeta: We use this chatroom for our big chat events which is why it's in 'featured' and why it's so busy right now because we just finished one http://tachy-on.deviantart.com/art/A-chat-with-dt-235039523
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:19] <SaTaNiA> Wi6791lly: yeah but it's a share tool ;)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:20] <steph1254> RotoDisk: :cuddle:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:21] <n8iveattitude1> Moonbeam13: :whisper: hi!!!!!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:21] <namenotrequired> Wi6791lly: I just think it should be activated on hoovering except for clicking :noes:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:23] <myah5000> dxd: skin care :love: ever tried Himalaya?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:24] <nuckchorris0> electricjonny: Didja see the part where they had thumbs failing?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:25] <PrairieEagle> Tachy-on: damn. I was able to find the old version on the net but I don't know python, so I can't get it up to date.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:30] <Moonbeam13> n8iveattitude1: hai!! :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:30] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: ^^
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:31] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0: yeah, I've tweaked it on mnbot
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:33] <Wi6791lly> namenotrequired: :nod: that sounds awesome
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:36] <SaTaNiA> Moonbeam13: :hug:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:38] <Danium> dxd: see if you can find some embryolisse that shit works wonders
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:40] <Ayame-Kenoshi> electricnet: Aww, thanks! I'm so excited for it. :D How's you?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:45] <Pickley> Heidi, Tachy-on: thanks for helping organise this :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:47] <odonnell004> is room alway open ?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:47] <namenotrequired> Ayame-Kenoshi: :hug:
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:52] <electricjonny> nuckchorris0: lol, I thought the chats fixed that with the last update, the /list stuff.&#160;&#160;It's still only working with scripts? :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:53] <n8iveattitude1> Moonbeam13: can we ask any questions now???????
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:55] <namenotrequired> odonnell004: only in case of an event
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:56] <steph1254> Moonbeam13: :glomp:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:58] <nuckchorris0> Tachy-on: But you use a variant still? I've been wondering how it works, honestly. It sounds like a damn useful thing.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:58:59] <Tachy-on> Pickley: Hey, thanks for proposing the idea... you rock. :)
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:04] <Pickley> :)
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:07] <electricnet> nuckchorris0: I don't think so, no.
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:07] <trezoid> My god, jelly snakes are hard to eat for breakfast &gt;.&lt;
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:10] <Moonbeam13> n8iveattitude1: the DT chat has ended but if you have random questions about non DT stuff go for it :P
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:13] <namenotrequired> Pickley: what idea was this?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:17] <nuckchorris0> electricjonny: Nope, jsut with scripts. :lol: They filed a bug
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:22] <dxd> Danium: i also have some Estee Lauder 8 hour cream as well
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:28] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: They finally found the thumbfail glitch :lol:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:28] <Moonbeam13> trezoid: wtf is a Jelly snake.. inquiring minds want to know
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:30] <Pickley> namenotrequired: the chat event lol
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:36] <lost-angle> Ayame-Kenoshi: I want to chat with you again, send you a note to arrange a time?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:36] <n8iveattitude1> Moonbeam13: any word on a new leader for my beloved fractal community?
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:38] <electricjonny> nuckchorris0: lord, they need to fix that already :slow:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:39] <nuckchorris0> electricnet: I jsut said "works with SuperdAmn!"
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:39] <YukiiKun> Moonbeam13: Danie, when will new GMs come? :la:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:42] <Ayame-Kenoshi> SaTaNiA: Good to hear you're recovering well! :hug:
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:42] <JellymanMyComicGuy> trezoid: You... you <i>monster! :thumb162203794: <abbr title="colors:4A0165:976E44"></abbr></i>
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:47] <Moonbeam13> haha
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:50] <Tachy-on> nuckchorris0: yeah, most of it is the same as thumbbot's banlist... and yeah, it is useful
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:51] <Danium> dxd: you mean elizebeth arden
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:54] <odonnell004> I got in late, are you going to publish the log for the event ?
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 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:57] <IamHardcore78> Dang, everyone must type fast because every reply is like the speed of sound!
 [Jul 19th, 2011 / 23:59:58] <electricnet> Ayame-Kenoshi: Yeah! I'm going to follow along via Marvel's live webcam and get that all streamed while working. :paranoid: I'm doing great, thanks! Summer weather is weird in Switzerland, but yeah!
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