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DC wrap up log
* [R] has changed topic for #Exalted to: "General Exalted discussion and Out-of-Character Chat for #damagedcircle and #exaltedout // Desmond Hade // Damaged Circle pending cancelation (various reasons) Timeslot might be reused."
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<Snow_> :<
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<[R]> I guess I can try pulling SD now, 3 peeps is enough, low but enough
<[R]> As for the topic, my enjoyment is sinking with the game quite a bit, the story has becone a fairly big tangled mess, and I think some of the players are feeling the same way.
<[R]> If it does end, I could either keep what I had planned for secret or I could just ease your curiosity. Up to the players.
<Snow_> Most games have lifespans, I guess.
<[R]> If we do open something new, it'd probably be mid-level xp starting.
<Lirio> For my part, i lost my momentum with respect to roleplaying back in August due to the move and just... never got it back.
<Snow_> That'd be cool.
<Snow_> I have some ideas for a character depending on what splats you allow.
<[R]> Snow_: the spoilers or the new game?
<[R]> nm
<Snow_> For the new game.
<Lirio> i've tried getting into other games to try and respark things and i just... can't.
<Theion> Reveal the spoilers! Satisfy my curiosity :- D
<Snow_> I like your GMing in general and I've had fun when the plot gave me things to sink my teeth into.
<Snow_> But I feel my problem was more or less just hopping in last minute. :v
<[R]> Yeah
<[R]> That was an issue for many, many people.
<Lirio> It's not the plot being a convoluted tangled mess, i can mostly keep it straight in my head i think, it's just that i never feel i have the energy or focus for it.
<Lirio> And it makes me so very sad because i want to play, i really do, i love it, it's a great game, but i just... can't.
<[R]> If you've ever seen the now horribly out-dated google doc I had with character sheets, you'll see the XPC list is non-negligable.
<Lirio> v.v
<[R]> Well issue for me is minor evenys keep getting warped in my mind and my notes keep getting destroyed :/
<[R]> You guys can vote for what you want done BTW
<Lirio> Well if the game ends i want to know everything you had planned plotwise.
<Lirio> Then at least i can fantasize about what Maria would have done.
<[R]> Not-so-much spoiler. Next big bad was, yes, Oblivion as a Primordial.
<[R]> Oh wait... EO... right.
<[R]> Whoops.
<Snow_> So I guess Oblivion was a Primordial that had swallowed several Primordials that should have merely reconstituted themselves at a critical moment of weakness to trap them as Neverborn? Or something like that.
<[R]> More like she can control how things end, and used that ability to make them not end when they should've just to spite them for ignoring her.
<[R]> (Disproportionate Retribution and REVENGE being her major themes)
<[R]> (Also overly convoluted revenge plots)
<[R]> But that should've been obvious at the point where she planned to systematically destroy Creation simply so she could hurt them more.
<Snow_> Ah, I see.
<[R]> Actually fuck it.
* [R] has changed topic for #Exalted to: "General Exalted discussion and Out-of-Character Chat for #damagedcircle and #exaltedout // Desmond Hade // Damaged Circle cancelled (various reasons). Timeslot might be reused."
<[R]> So, Saturn (whoever is Endings) is a Behemoth of Oblivion's design, sometime around after the island returns to Creation, she kill all the other Incarnae (with the help of the Games of Divinity, which is one of Oblivion's 3CDs) then goes out into Yu-Shan proper, declares they're under attack and randomly points people out as traitors while the Games sneak into the Loom and kill all the spiders.
<[R]> One of the NPCs, is the 3rd eldest sid, tasked with learning, and teaching, every MA. You meet after (or before) ended up killing her husband as a result of Saturn's orders (because Sids aren't exactly going to question an Incarnae's orders), and eventually breaks down, decides to go on a roaring rampage of revenge, finds Saturn already killed so she kills the next best thing: three deathlords (non-perm) and the fouth kills her, she returns as a ghost, gets summoned by Abyssals wanting to annoy her, she screws with them, they attack, she retaliates and wins. Then she returns to Yu-Shan to lead whatever is left.
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<[R]> (EO has met ghost of said Sid briefly a few times)
<[R]> Also for clarity, EO's Exalted-verse is what would happen in DC if none of the PCs existed.
<[R]> With a few other changes (like Cassandra not being trampled to death)
<[R]> https://gist.github.com/RobinStamer/5392665
<[R]> Tisiri: ^ spoilers (as I'm unlikely to run DC even as a repeat)
<[R]> So, if we do, do Exalted. It'll be a fresh 200xp game I think.
<[R]> I'd also run nWoD maybe. 3.5 (D&D pretty likely), Pathfinder (slightly less likely than 3.5, but more than nWoD) or one of the 5 games I got a Corebook for recently.
<Tisiri> Hmm? Also, sorry for being late. I passed out and woke up a little while ago, but it wasn't until I said something in the chat that my client realized I'd lost connection and reset me. Doing the mortals thing, or discussing new game?
<[R]> The D20 games would be lvl 8 start. Everything else would be fresh chargen.
<[R]> Tisiri: yeah.
<[R]> Lirio: anything else you wanted to know?
<[R]> RPP would find a way to bend what happened to people who died around her more. IE she could dictate being utterly destroyed (rather than being fed to Oblivion), sent to Leethe, rise as a ghost, or something else.
<Theion> I want to know when you planned for THEION, UNIVERSE EMPEROR to show up and win
<Theion> very important
<[R]> Rose's attack plan was: invade with army, social /all the mortals/ to fight /all the spirits and fae/ then laugh at the havoc.
<Tisiri> Oh, wow. You decided to end DC now?
<[R]> Yeah
<Tisiri> Nuts. :(
<[R]> It was kind of coming.
<[R]> Sorry man.
<Tisiri> Well, it was kind of nice while it lasted.
<Tisiri> Playing with a ridiculous-XP character. :)
<[R]> Rose has Dodge 5 (Unarmed +3)...
<[R]> Her right arm is actually her mother's corpse with her mother's ghost bound to it.
<[R]> Her left arm is likewise her father.
<Tisiri> So they deanimate if those ghosts went to Lethe?
<[R]> They can detach and morph back into full human zombies. Leaving her unarmed.
<Tisiri> And then a Zenith can send them straight to Lethe. Fun times. :)
<[R]> As in, without arms.
<Tisiri> Yeah. We got it.
<Tisiri> Disarmed like a mook who's run afoul of a Jedi. :)
<[R]> So she'd be running around being attacked, yelling "you can't hit me because I have no arms!"
<Theion> High XP games *are* fun, yeah.
<Tisiri> Anyway...
<Theion> I'm still cruising all the rpg sites for a Sovereign-OK high XP game before 3e comes out
<Theion> 'cause once 3e is here haha 2e is so dead
<Theion> sooo dead
<Tisiri> If you want ideas for something else to run...
<Tisiri> Well, you suggested D&D 3.5?
<Jammy> (Burn Legend...)
<[R]> No.
<[R]> Fuck BL
<Tisiri> I could get down behind that, especially if you're feeling like going wild with characters and stuff.
<Theion> v20! If I'm gonna lurk here I wanna watch vampire shenanigans
-*- Tisiri has always had ideas for a 'crazy characters-OK' game for a group of Gestalt players where nobody was allowed to have a character of the Humanoid type without at minium a subtype or template.
-*- Theion has been on a vampire kick lately, weeee
<[R]> Gesalt?
<Tisiri> Yeah. It's a rule out of Unearthed Arcana that was intended to let a group of smaller than four players manage. Basically, you get to take two classes at level-up, taking the class features of both and the best of both when features overlap.
<Tisiri> Like a Monk/Wizard would get the wizard's arcane spellcasting and the Monk's unarmed combat, BAB, hit points, skills-per-level, would get both skill lists combined, and the Monk's good Fort and Reflex saves.
<[R]> Station Zero, PTOLUS, ShadowRun, Altus (primer?), A Song of Fire and Ice (quickstart?), and Consipracy X 20
<Tisiri> Or so the locksmith and healkit could be the same character.
<[R]> Those are the PDFs I recently got.
<[R]> Those I might not have the full game core for are marked as such
<Tisiri> But in my experience, it would also be great for a "Go fuckin' crazy out there!" game.
<Tisiri> Especially if, say, you wanted to be a race with a big level adjustment or worse, monster levels.
<Theion> none of those are v20! my wishes as a lurking outsider are ignooooored
<Tisiri> One of the tracks could eat up your LA or monster levels, letting you punch the other track with full hit dice.
<[R]> Theion: WoD20 aren't one of the things I marked as me being likely to run. Though nWoD is.
<Theion> Ah, that's a shame. v20 looks cool, I grabbed the pdf recently to browse through it.
<[R]> Well, I have like 100 nWoD PDFs, and 1 V20 one so...
-*- [R] likes to have more books on the subject than players, so he's not surprised with weird shit... though he could also just declare "only shit I have books for"
<Theion> lol. I'm not a huge oWoD or nWoD fan really
<Theion> I just love Vampire
<Theion> it is my big after-exalted love
-*- Tisiri has literally never played any form of Vampire.
<[R]> Yet you hate Abyssals for some reason.
<Tisiri> Eh?
<[R]> Wasn't for you.
<Theion> Abyssals are pale and can suck blood; they don't really jive with Vampires in any other way.
<Theion> A goth with a blood fetish ain't my Vampire.
<[R]> Oh right, and Autobot gets invaded by an Abyssal aligned army while most of his Alcs are outside of him, the Abyssals raise hell, killing his Devas, eventually causing him to be forced into a new world jouten (killing everyone inside of him in the process) and he re-emerges as a Yozi, but cured of Oblivion's touch.
<[R]> He then flees.
<Theion> For me, the thrill of Vampire is the thrill of being a predator, lording over the world even as you hide from it -- it's being a lion surrounded by gazelle, but they can still group up and trample you. It's in manipulating and fighting a world, dealing with politics, using your fabulous magic powers.. and, while yes, there is the elder problem and they can easily fuck you over if the ST wills it..
<Tisiri> Isn't Autobot slated to become the Engine of Extinction if anything happens to him?
<Theion> It's not quite the same doomed slavery story Abyssals are, nor does it intrinsically have elements of MURDER THE WORLD.
<Theion> which I find incredibly trite
<[R]> Tisiri: only if he /dies/
<Tisiri> Hrm...
<[R]> deva-death is slightly different.
<[R]> Lirio: Snow_: thoughts on what to do with the new game if any?
<Theion> also the other reason Vampire > Abyssal: Majesty & Dominate are soo much better than like every printed social Charm, esp. for Abyssals
<Lirio> i was distracted by other things and haven't read back the scrollback yet.
<[R]> You're always behind now :/
<[R]> </playful joking>
<Lirio> Yes, that's been kind of the problem, hasn't it?
-*- Theion rubs Lirio's head.
<Tisiri> Does that build up a static charge?
-*- Theion points at Tisiri and sees if Force Storm works.
<Theion> seems not
<Tisiri> Heheheh. I don't suppose Star Wars is in the cards? :P
<[R]> I don't have any PDFs for that, and I've already got a to-read backlog.
<Theion> Star Wars is pretty neat. Dunno if it's RPG(s) are any good, but I do love me some Sith.
<Tisiri> R: Ahh well, c'est la vie.
<[R]> So... most likely Exalted then I guess.
<[R]> Unless someone else wants to ST (please?)
<Tisiri> What's wrong with D&D? And I might, but I somehow wound up suggesting remaking my Star Wars campaign, and more terribly, people said yes, so I have to gear up for that.
<Snow_> I could GM since my last stint as one collapsed.
<Theion> st a vampire game so I have something fun to lurk in on :o
<[R]> Mostly because I want to play an Abyssal or Alchemical :p
<Theion> noooo
<Tisiri> Snow: What would you consider GMing?
<Snow_> Not entirely sure atm.
<[R]> Want the fuck-off huge PTOLUS books I got?
-*- [R] still hasn't read it.
<Theion> oh I got it!
<Theion> run a WEREWOLF game where you're all VIOLENT ACTIVISTS fighting against THE CORPORATIONS
<[R]> ...
<[R]> Isn't that Lunars post-MoJ?
<Theion> no no this is werewolf and lunars are definitely not werewolves
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