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two planes leave from NYC and LA. The NYC plane travels at 500km/h the LA plane travels at 600km/hr. When they meet in the air, which plane will be closer to NY? | |
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Okay, let's see. There are two planes leaving from New York City (NYC) and Los Angeles (LA). The NYC plane is traveling at 500 km/h, and the LA plane is going faster at 600 km/h. The question is, when they meet in the air, which plane will be closer to New York? | |
Hmm. Alright, so first, I need to visualize this scenario. Both planes are heading towards each other, right? One departing NYC towards LA, and the other departing LA towards NYC. Their speeds are different: 500 km/h for the NYC plane and 600 km/h for the LA plane. When they meet at some point in between, which one is closer to NYC? | |
Wait, so they start at the same time? The problem doesn't specify departure times, so I guess we can assume they leave at the same time. Let me confirm that. The problem says "two planes leave from NYC and LA." It doesn't mention different departure times, so I think we can assume they depart simultaneously. | |
Now, the key here is to figure out where they meet. Since they are traveling towards each other, their combined speed is 500 + 600 = 1100 km/h. The distance between NYC and LA is approximately... I remember it's around 4000 km, maybe? Let me check. Wait, actually, the exact distance might not matter here because we can work with variables, but maybe it's better to use the approximate distance to get a concrete answer. Let me think. The actual driving distance is about 4500 km, but by air, it's shorter. Maybe around 3950 km? Wait, I'm not sure. Maybe I should just represent the distance as D to keep it general. | |
So, let's denote the distance between NYC and LA as D kilometers. The NYC plane is flying towards LA at 500 km/h, and the LA plane is flying towards NYC at 600 km/h. They depart at the same time and meet each other after some time t. At that meeting time, how far has each plane traveled? | |
The total distance covered by both planes when they meet should be equal to D, right? So, distance covered by NYC plane is 500t, and distance covered by LA plane is 600t. Therefore, 500t + 600t = D. Solving for t, we get t = D / 1100. | |
So, the time taken for them to meet is D divided by 1100 hours. Now, the distance each plane has traveled when they meet is: | |
NYC plane: 500t = 500*(D/1100) = (500/1100)D = (5/11)D ≈ 0.4545D | |
LA plane: 600t = 600*(D/1100) = (600/1100)D = (6/11)D ≈ 0.5455D | |
So, when they meet, the NYC plane has traveled approximately 45.45% of the distance from NYC to LA, and the LA plane has traveled approximately 54.55% of the distance from LA to NYC. Therefore, the meeting point is closer to NYC or LA? | |
Since the NYC plane has only covered about 45.45% of the distance, and the LA plane has covered 54.55%, the meeting point is closer to NYC because 45.45% from NYC is the same as 54.55% remaining to LA. Wait, no. If the NYC plane has gone 45.45% towards LA, then the meeting point is 45.45% away from NYC towards LA, which is also 54.55% away from LA towards NYC. Therefore, the meeting point is closer to NYC or LA? Hmm. | |
Wait, no. Let's think in terms of absolute distances. If the total distance is D, then if the meeting point is x kilometers from NYC, then it's D - x kilometers from LA. The NYC plane travels x = 500t, and the LA plane travels D - x = 600t. So, x = 500t and D - x = 600t. Therefore, substituting x into the second equation: D - 500t = 600t => D = 1100t => t = D/1100. Then x = 500*(D/1100) = (5/11)D ≈ 0.4545D. So, the meeting point is (5/11)D from NYC, which is less than half the distance since 5/11 is approximately 0.4545. So, the meeting point is closer to NYC than to LA? Wait, if it's 45.45% of the way from NYC to LA, then yes, it's closer to NYC. Because the halfway point would be 0.5D. Since 0.4545D is less than 0.5D, it's closer to NYC. Wait, but that contradicts my initial thought. | |
Wait, maybe not. Wait, if the NYC plane is slower, then the LA plane is faster, so the LA plane covers more distance in the same time. Therefore, the meeting point should be closer to NYC because the LA plane can cover more ground. Wait, that seems correct. Let me confirm with numbers. | |
Suppose the distance between NYC and LA is 1100 km (just to make the math easy). Then, time until meeting is 1100 / (500 + 600) = 1 hour. In that hour, the NYC plane would have traveled 500 km, and the LA plane would have traveled 600 km. So, they meet at 500 km from NYC and 600 km from LA. Since the total distance is 1100 km, 500 from NYC and 600 from LA. Therefore, the meeting point is closer to NYC because 500 is less than 600? Wait, no. Wait, 500 km from NYC means it's 500 km away from NYC, so closer to NYC? Wait, but 500 is less than 600, so the meeting point is closer to NYC. Wait, but if the total distance is 1100, then 500 from NYC and 600 from LA. So, 500 is less than half of 1100 (which is 550). So, 500 is less than half, so it's closer to NYC. But the LA plane traveled more, so it's closer to NYC. So, the answer is the NYC plane is closer to NYC when they meet? | |
Wait, but the question says "which plane will be closer to NY?" When they meet, the NYC plane has traveled 500 km from NYC, so it's 500 km away from NYC, and the LA plane has traveled 600 km from LA, which is 1100 - 600 = 500 km away from NYC. Wait, wait, hold on. If the total distance is 1100 km, and the LA plane has traveled 600 km towards NYC, then it is 600 km from LA, which is 1100 - 600 = 500 km from NYC. So, both planes are 500 km from NYC when they meet? That can't be right. Wait, that can't be. | |
Wait, no. If the total distance is 1100 km, and they meet after 1 hour, the NYC plane has gone 500 km towards LA, so it's 500 km from NYC. The LA plane has gone 600 km towards NYC, so it's 600 km from LA, which is 1100 - 600 = 500 km from NYC. So, both planes are 500 km from NYC when they meet. Wait, that's interesting. So, they are both at the same distance from NYC? That seems contradictory to my earlier calculation. | |
Wait, maybe the total distance is not 1100 km. Let's try with a different distance. Let's say the actual distance is D. Then, time until meeting is t = D / (500 + 600) = D / 1100. In that time, the NYC plane travels 500 * (D / 1100) = (5/11)D, and the LA plane travels 600 * (D / 1100) = (6/11)D. So, the meeting point is (5/11)D from NYC and (6/11)D from LA. Therefore, the distance from NYC is (5/11)D, and the distance from LA is (6/11)D. Since 5/11 is less than 6/11, the meeting point is closer to NYC. Therefore, both planes are at the same point when they meet, so both are equally close to NYC? Wait, no. Wait, if they meet at the same point, then both planes are at that point, so they are equally close to NYC. Wait, that's the key. When they meet, they are at the same location, so they are both equally close to NYC. Wait, but that contradicts my previous conclusion. | |
Wait, this is confusing. Let me think again. Suppose the distance is 1100 km. After 1 hour, NYC plane is at 500 km from NYC, LA plane is at 600 km from LA. But since the total distance is 1100 km, 600 km from LA is 1100 - 600 = 500 km from NYC. Therefore, both planes are 500 km from NYC. Therefore, they meet at the same point, which is 500 km from NYC. Therefore, both planes are equally close to NYC. Wait, so the answer is both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet? | |
But that seems counterintuitive. If one plane is going faster, wouldn't it have covered more distance? Wait, but the LA plane is starting from LA, so the fact that it's faster allows it to cover more distance towards NYC, but since they meet at a point, their combined distances equal the total distance. Therefore, the distances they've covered are proportional to their speeds. So, the ratio of their speeds is 500:600 = 5:6. Therefore, the distance each covers is in the ratio 5:6. Therefore, the meeting point is 5 parts from NYC and 6 parts from LA. Therefore, the meeting point is 5/11 of the way from NYC to LA. Therefore, it is closer to NYC. So, both planes are at that meeting point, so both are equally close to NYC. Wait, but that can't be. Wait, but the meeting point is a single point. So, when they meet, they are at the same location, so they are both equally close to NYC. Therefore, the answer is that both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But the question is phrased as "which plane will be closer to NY?" So, maybe the answer is both are equally close. Wait, but that seems too clever. Maybe I'm missing something. | |
Alternatively, maybe the question is a trick question. Because when they meet, they are at the same location, so they are both the same distance from NYC. Therefore, neither is closer; they are equally close. So, the answer is both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But the problem is presented as a riddle, perhaps. Let me check the classic version of this problem. There's a similar problem where two trains leave different cities heading towards each other, and when they meet, which is closer. The answer is that they're both at the same point, so they're equally close. But sometimes, people might think that the faster one has covered more distance, but since they started from different cities, their distances covered are proportionate to their speeds. | |
Wait, but in this case, the NYC plane is going slower, so it takes longer to reach the meeting point, but the LA plane is going faster, so it covers more distance in the same time. Wait, but they started at the same time. Therefore, in the time it takes for them to meet, the LA plane would have covered more distance, meaning the meeting point is closer to NYC. Therefore, when they meet, they are both at that meeting point, which is closer to NYC. Therefore, both planes are equally close to NYC, but the meeting point itself is closer to NYC. | |
Wait, but the question is asking which plane is closer to NYC when they meet. Since both planes are at the same location when they meet, they must be the same distance from NYC. Therefore, the answer is both are equally close. But maybe the answer is the plane that departed from LA, because it has traveled a longer distance? Wait, no. The distance from NYC is not about how much they've traveled, but their current position. If they meet at point X, then both are at point X, so both are the same distance from NYC. | |
Alternatively, perhaps the question is a trick question, and the answer is the NYC plane is closer because it's been flying slower. But that doesn't make sense. Let me consider an example. If they start at the same time, and fly towards each other, with the LA plane faster, then the LA plane will cover more distance. Therefore, the meeting point is closer to NYC. So, when they meet, the meeting point is closer to NYC, meaning both planes are at that closer point, so they are both equally close to NYC. | |
Wait, but maybe the question is designed to trick people into thinking the faster plane is closer. But no, because the meeting point's location depends on the ratio of their speeds. Since the LA plane is faster, it covers more distance, so the meeting point is closer to NYC. Therefore, both planes are at that closer point, so both are equally close to NYC. | |
Alternatively, perhaps the answer is the plane that departed from NYC is closer because it hasn't traveled as far. But no, because they meet at the same point, so their distances from NYC are the same. | |
Wait, maybe the answer is that the NYC plane is closer because it's been in the air longer? Wait, no, they departed at the same time. So, same time in the air. The NYC plane is slower, so it hasn't gone as far. The LA plane is faster, so it's covered more ground. But since they meet at a point closer to NYC, the distance each has covered is such that the sum is the total distance. Therefore, the NYC plane's distance plus the LA plane's distance equals D. Therefore, their distances from their respective starting points are 5/11 D and 6/11 D. Therefore, the meeting point is 5/11 D from NYC, so both planes are 5/11 D from NYC. Therefore, both are equally close. | |
Therefore, the answer is that both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But the problem states "which plane will be closer to NY?" Maybe the answer is neither, they are the same distance. But the way the question is phrased, maybe it's expecting the NYC plane because it's moving slower, but that doesn't make sense. | |
Alternatively, maybe the answer is the plane that left from LA, because when they meet, it has traveled a longer distance, but in terms of proximity to NYC, it's still the same as the NYC plane. | |
Wait, but proximity to NYC is a matter of current position. If both planes are at the same position when they meet, then their distance to NYC is the same. Therefore, the answer is both are equally close. | |
But maybe I'm overcomplicating it. Let's check with actual numbers. Suppose the distance between NYC and LA is 2200 km. Then, combined speed is 1100 km/h, so time to meet is 2200 / 1100 = 2 hours. In 2 hours, NYC plane travels 500 * 2 = 1000 km. LA plane travels 600 * 2 = 1200 km. So, NYC plane is 1000 km from NYC, LA plane is 1200 km from LA, which is 2200 - 1200 = 1000 km from NYC. Therefore, both are 1000 km from NYC. So, they are equally close. | |
Therefore, regardless of the total distance, when they meet, both planes are the same distance from NYC. Therefore, the answer is that both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. So, the answer is neither is closer; they are the same distance. | |
But the problem asks "which plane will be closer to NY?" So, perhaps the answer is both planes are equally close. But maybe the question is a trick question, and the answer is the NYC plane, because even though they meet at the same point, the NYC plane is heading towards LA, so it's going away from NYC, while the LA plane is heading towards NYC, so... Wait, no. Wait, when they meet, their direction doesn't affect their current position. If they meet at point X, then regardless of their directions, their distance from NYC is the distance of point X from NYC. Since both planes are at point X, they are both equally distant from NYC. | |
Therefore, the answer is that both planes are the same distance from NYC when they meet. Therefore, neither is closer; they are equally close. | |
But let me check another source. Wait, this is a classic problem. Let me recall. There's a similar problem where two trains leave different cities traveling towards each other, and when they meet, which is closer to a certain city. The answer is they are both at the same point, so they are equally close. So, the answer is they are the same distance. So, in this case, the answer is both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But maybe the original problem is different. Wait, perhaps the planes are departing from NYC and LA but not going towards each other? Wait, the problem says "two planes leave from NYC and LA." It doesn't specify direction, but typically, such problems imply that they are flying towards each other. If they were flying in the same direction, the problem would have mentioned it. So, assuming they are flying towards each other. | |
Therefore, the conclusion is that when they meet, both planes are at the same point, hence equidistant from NYC. Therefore, the answer is both are equally close. | |
But the problem is presented as a question expecting one of the two planes as an answer. Maybe the answer is the plane that departed from LA, because it's faster, so it covered more distance, but that's from LA. Wait, but proximity to NYC is a function of current position. If the LA plane has traveled further in the direction of NYC, then it's closer? Wait, no. Wait, if the LA plane is moving towards NYC, then the distance it covers reduces its distance from NYC. Similarly, the NYC plane moving towards LA increases its distance from NYC. Wait, no! Wait, the NYC plane is departing NYC, moving towards LA, so its distance from NYC increases over time. Wait, no. Wait, if you leave NYC and go towards LA, your distance from NYC is increasing. Wait, but if you leave LA and go towards NYC, your distance from NYC is decreasing. Wait, hold on. Let me clarify. | |
If a plane departs NYC heading towards LA, then as time passes, its distance from NYC increases until it reaches LA. Wait, no! Wait, no. If you depart NYC and go towards LA, your distance from NYC starts at zero and increases as you move away from NYC towards LA. Wait, that's not right. Wait, actually, when you depart from NYC towards LA, your distance from NYC is increasing. Wait, no. Wait, if you are moving away from NYC, your distance from NYC is increasing. If you are moving towards NYC, your distance is decreasing. So, the NYC plane is departing NYC, moving towards LA, so its distance from NYC is increasing. The LA plane is departing LA, moving towards NYC, so its distance from NYC is decreasing. | |
Therefore, when they meet, the NYC plane has been flying away from NYC, so its distance from NYC is (5/11)D. The LA plane has been flying towards NYC, so its distance from NYC is D - (6/11)D = (5/11)D. Therefore, both have the same distance from NYC. Therefore, when they meet, both are equally close to NYC. | |
Therefore, the answer is that both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But the original problem is phrased as "which plane will be closer to NY?" Maybe it's a trick question where the answer is that they are the same distance. But sometimes, in such problems, the answer is the plane that departed from LA because it was going towards NYC, so at the meeting point, it's now closer, but the NYC plane was going away. Wait, but in reality, when they meet, they are at the same point, so their distances are the same. | |
Alternatively, maybe people might think the LA plane is closer because it was moving faster towards NYC, but actually, since they meet at the same point, they must be equidistant. | |
Therefore, the answer is both planes are equally close to New York when they meet. | |
But maybe the problem expects a different answer. Let me check another angle. | |
Suppose the planes are flying towards each other. The NYC plane's speed is 500 km/h, the LA plane's speed is 600 km/h. The time to meet is t = D / (500 + 600) = D / 1100. The distance each has traveled is 500t and 600t. Therefore, the NYC plane is 500t from NYC, and the LA plane is D - 600t from NYC. Let's compute D - 600t: | |
D - 600*(D/1100) = D - (600/1100)D = (1100D - 600D)/1100 = (500D)/1100 = 500t. Therefore, both distances are equal. Therefore, when they meet, both planes are 500t from NYC. Therefore, they are equally close. | |
Therefore, the answer is that both planes are the same distance from NYC when they meet. | |
But the question is "which plane will be closer to NY?" So, maybe the answer is neither, they are the same. But in the context of a quiz or a riddle, sometimes the answer is a play on words. Maybe the plane that is closer is the one that is flying to NYC, i.e., the LA plane, because it's going towards NYC, whereas the NYC plane is flying away. But when they meet, the NYC plane is moving away from NYC, but its current position is the same as the LA plane's current position, which is moving towards NYC. So, their current distances are the same. Therefore, the answer is both are equally close. | |
Alternatively, if the question is designed to trick you into thinking about the planes' directions, but in reality, when they meet, their positions are the same, so distances are the same. | |
Therefore, the answer is that both planes are equally close to New York when they meet. | |
But since the problem is presented in a way that might expect a single answer, maybe I'm missing something. Let me check with a different approach. | |
Imagine two people start walking towards each other from two points. The one who walks faster will cover more distance. The meeting point is closer to the starting point of the slower person. Therefore, in this case, since the NYC plane is slower, the meeting point is closer to NYC. Therefore, both planes are at the meeting point, which is closer to NYC. Therefore, both are closer to NYC than to LA. Wait, but which plane is closer to NYC? Since they are at the same point, both are equally close. | |
Alternatively, if the question is asking which plane is closer to NYC at the moment they meet, the answer is both are the same distance. If the question is which plane is closer to its destination, then the NYC plane is closer to LA (since it's already partway there), and the LA plane is closer to NYC. But the question specifically asks which is closer to NY, so it's the LA plane? Wait, no. Wait, if the meeting point is x from NYC, then the NYC plane is x from NYC and the LA plane is x from NYC as well. Therefore, they are the same. | |
Wait, but the LA plane's destination is NYC, so when they meet, the LA plane is x away from NYC, which is its destination. The NYC plane's destination is LA, so it's x away from NYC, meaning D - x away from LA. But the question is about distance from NY, not distance from destination. Therefore, the answer is both planes are equally close to NY when they meet. | |
Therefore, the answer is both planes are the same distance from New York when they meet. Therefore, neither is closer; they are equidistant. | |
But maybe in the problem's original wording, there's a trick. Let me reread the problem. | |
"Two planes leave from NYC and LA. The NYC plane travels at 500km/h the LA plane travels at 600km/hr. When they meet in the air, which plane will be closer to NY?" | |
So, planes leave from NYC and LA. So, they are departing from those cities. The NYC plane is going at 500 km/h, the LA plane at 600 km/h. When they meet, which is closer to NY. | |
If they are departing from those cities and presumably flying towards each other, then when they meet, their positions are the same, so equidistant. But maybe they are flying in the same direction? Wait, the problem doesn't specify direction, but if they leave from NYC and LA, which are two different cities, and if they are flying towards each other, which is the usual assumption in such problems. | |
If they are flying away from each other, then they would never meet. Therefore, the default assumption is that they are flying towards each other. | |
Therefore, when they meet, same position, same distance from NYC. Therefore, answer is both are equally close. | |
But the problem is asking "which plane will be closer to NY?" So, maybe the answer is the LA plane, because it was flying towards NY, so at the meeting point, it's closer to NY than the NYC plane, which was flying away. Wait, but the NYC plane was flying away from NY, so its distance increased, while the LA plane's distance decreased. But when they meet, the NYC plane's distance from NY is equal to the LA plane's distance from NY. | |
Wait, let's do the math again. Let me define: | |
Let D be the distance between NYC and LA. | |
Let t be the time until they meet. | |
NYC plane's speed: 500 km/h (away from NYC towards LA) | |
LA plane's speed: 600 km/h (towards NYC from LA) | |
Distance covered by NYC plane when they meet: 500t | |
Distance covered by LA plane when they meet: 600t | |
But since they meet, the sum of these distances is D: | |
500t + 600t = D => 1100t = D => t = D / 1100 | |
Therefore, distance from NYC when they meet: | |
For NYC plane: 500t = 500*(D/1100) = (5/11)D | |
For LA plane: D - 600t = D - 600*(D/1100) = D - (6/11)D = (5/11)D | |
Therefore, both are (5/11)D from NYC. Therefore, equidistant. | |
Therefore, answer: both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But since the problem is likely designed to trick people into thinking the faster plane is closer, but the correct answer is they are the same. Therefore, the answer is both are equally close. | |
But the question is "which plane will be closer to NY?" implying one of them. Hmm. Maybe the problem is translated or phrased incorrectly. Alternatively, maybe there's a different interpretation. | |
Wait, maybe the planes are not flying towards each other but in the same direction. For example, both flying from NYC to LA, but leaving at different times? But the problem says "two planes leave from NYC and LA". If they leave from different cities and fly in the same direction, they would not meet unless one catches up, which is possible. But the problem says "when they meet in the air", so maybe they are flying towards each other. | |
Alternatively, if they are flying in the same direction, for example, both flying from NYC to LA, but starting at different times. But since the problem says "leave from NYC and LA", it's more natural to assume they depart from their respective cities towards each other. | |
Therefore, the answer is both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
But since the problem asks "which plane will be closer to NY?", maybe the intended answer is the LA plane, but that's incorrect. Alternatively, the NYC plane, but no. | |
Alternatively, it's a trick question where the answer is the NYC plane, because it's the one that departed from NYC, so even though they meet at the same point, technically, the NYC plane is the one that's been traveling from NYC, so it's... no, that doesn't make sense. When they meet, their current positions determine their distance from NYC, not their departure cities. | |
Therefore, I think the correct answer is that both planes are equally close to NYC when they meet. Therefore, neither is closer; they are the same distance away. | |
But since the problem is asking "which plane", maybe the answer is "they are the same distance" or "both". But in the context of a multiple-choice question with two options, it might be a trick. However, based on the mathematical derivation, they are equidistant. | |
Therefore, after thorough analysis, the answer is that both planes are equally close to New York when they meet. | |
========================== prompt to summarize | |
You need to minimize the words of each step in the following reasoning trace WITHOUT changing semantics. | |
<begin reasoning trace> | |
<end reasoning trace> | |
Again, the goal is to maintain "reasoning flow" words associated with pauses, self reflection, back tracking etc, while minimizing overall words, but maintaining overall number of reasoning steps the same. Examples of reasoning phrases: | |
- Hmm. Alright, so | |
- Wait, so etc | |
- Now, | |
- So, let's | |
- Hmm. | |
- Wait, no. Let's think | |
- Wait, maybe not. Wait, if | |
- Wait, wait, hold on. | |
- Wait, this is confusing. Let me think again. | |
- But that seems counterintuitive. | |
- Alternatively, maybe | |
Again, 2minimize overall word count, while perfectly maintaining semantics. You need to keep same number of steps as listed above and delimited by new line | |
GO | |
====================== summary from Claude | |
Here's my attempt to minimize words while keeping reasoning flow and semantics intact: | |
Two planes from NYC and LA. NYC plane at 500 km/h, LA plane at 600 km/h. Need to find which is closer to NYC when they meet. | |
Hmm. Let me visualize. Both heading towards each other - NYC to LA and LA to NYC. Different speeds. | |
Wait, departure times? Not specified, so assume same time. | |
Now, meeting point. Combined speed 500 + 600 = 1100 km/h. Distance D between cities. | |
So, NYC plane covers 500t, LA plane covers 600t. Total = D. So 500t + 600t = D. Solving: t = D/1100. | |
Distance covered at meeting: | |
NYC: 500t = (5/11)D ≈ 0.4545D | |
LA: 600t = (6/11)D ≈ 0.5455D | |
Wait, meeting point closer to NYC since 45.45% < 50%. | |
Hold on. If total distance 1100km, after 1 hour NYC plane at 500km from NYC, LA plane 500km from NYC too. | |
Wait, let's check. If D=1100km, time=1h. NYC plane goes 500km, LA plane 600km. Both end up 500km from NYC. | |
Hmm. Different distance? Let D be variable. Time = D/1100. NYC plane: (5/11)D from NYC. LA plane: D-(6/11)D = (5/11)D from NYC. | |
Wait, they meet at same point! Both (5/11)D from NYC. | |
Therefore, both planes equally distant from NYC when meeting. | |
But question asks "which plane closer?" Since same point, same distance. | |
Final answer: Both planes equally close to NYC when they meet. | |
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