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How to Give an Exceptionally Good Presentation
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"HOW TO GIVE AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD PRESENTATION" | |
CHARACTERS | |
Joe Cheng.............Moderator | |
Jennifer Bryan........As Herself | |
Hadley Wickham........As Himself | |
Aron Atkins...........Audience | |
Derrick Kearney.......Audience | |
Kirill Muller.........Audience | |
INT. INDUSTRY ROOM I, Hotel Republic, SAN DIEGO | |
ENTER JOE, HADLEY, JENNIFER | |
[ SCATTERED CONVERSATION DIES DOWN ] | |
JOE: We are exceptionally lucky to have Hadley and Jennifer | |
with us today. I'll ask some questions to start with and | |
then we'll open it up. To begin with -- What is the purpose | |
of a 20 minute talk? | |
JENNIFER: You're trying to convince someone that they are capable | |
of something. Not how to do something -- that it is | |
possible, and possible for them. | |
HADLEY: It's a sales pitch. In 20 min you can't go deep | |
technically; "I should learn more about this." Make sure | |
there's pointers to learn more. | |
JENNIFER: That talk is a confidence-building ad. | |
JOE: In some circles the point is to show that you're smart. | |
JENNIFER: That's why we're not in those circles any more. | |
[ LAUGHTER ] | |
JOE: What are the most common mistakes? | |
JENNIFER: Front-loading the boring. "To be complete I have to show | |
you these things..." and starting with those things. For | |
example, when people start off with R by teaching a list | |
of every data type. Save that for later, if at all. | |
HADLEY: You want to persuade people in the first minute that they | |
should care about the rest of the talk. You need compelling | |
motivation for later on. | |
SOMEONE: How about a table of contents slide? | |
HADLEY: I hate that. | |
JENNIFER: I think it's terrible. | |
HADLEY: But for longer talks, it's good to give a sense of | |
structure, and sum up what you've done at the end. | |
JENNIFER: The final slide should be one people can take a picture | |
of. Tell them what you're going to teach them, then tell | |
them what they've learned. Don't try to have a surprise | |
in your talk. I've never had a satisfying reveal. | |
JOE: I have a funny story that's relevant here. The first | |
time RStudio has ever demo'ed in public, I showed RStudio | |
Server in Chrome the whole time, but full screen so you | |
didn't see the browser. Then I pressed F11 at the end to | |
show that I'd been running the whole thing in a browser. | |
That was supposed to be a powerful moment, but the audience | |
didn't get it right away. | |
JOE: I think for a lot of us who have not given a lot of | |
talks, it's nerve-wracking, but it seems like it's so easy | |
for you. What's the worst you've ever bombed? | |
HADLEY: I showed an XKCD comic and no one laughed. I realized the | |
presentation was wrong for the audience, and there was | |
nothing I could do. There's nothing to do but show the rest | |
of the presentation. For small things you can rescue | |
mid-flight, but when it's so far off you really can't. | |
JENNIFER: I've had lots of versions of this, where the audience | |
isn't into the topic. The most confidence-eroding was giving | |
a talk that was very applied, and someone wanted to talk | |
about the asymptotic approach of something. I ceded too much | |
control and it made me feel less confident. | |
HADLEY: Dealing with questions is hard. | |
JENNIFER: I was not prepared to say nicely that your question is | |
not relevant. | |
HADLEY: It's good to have canned responses like "I wish we could | |
spend time on this." | |
[ LAUGHTER ] | |
JOE: You each have a different speaking voice. Is it intentional? | |
How do you try to speak? | |
JENNIFER: I try to be more conversational. I notice on podcasts | |
when people use fillers and back off on things. It's better | |
to pause when I use filler words, and to skip softeners and | |
backpedaling. Just own it. | |
HADLEY: A couple of years ago I did five sessions with a voice | |
coach, just to learn how to project better. If you do a lot | |
of public speaking, that is really useful. Part of the | |
reason was because of Joe: there was a room with no mic and | |
it was loud, and Joe said it sounded like I was shouting. I | |
needed to learn skills to project without exhausting my | |
voice. | |
JOE: The filler words issue. Can you explain that a little | |
more? It seems really hard to get past. | |
JENNIFER: Being more patient; being willing to tolerate silence. | |
Silence is better than weasel words and ums. They undermine | |
your authority and soften everything. | |
ARON: Do you do dry runs? | |
JENNIFER: I do little bits in my head; I go over it when I drive. | |
HADLEY: When you are silent as a speaker for a few seconds, it | |
feels like an eternity. But your experience of your | |
performance is very different than the audience's experience | |
of that performance. | |
JOE: I felt like those pauses made me look stupid. But | |
they're actually what make you sound authoritative. Own | |
those spaces, and speak into them. | |
HADLEY: It's odd when you first start practicing that. You | |
recognize when you've said "um", and you can't unsay it, but | |
you need to be aware of it. | |
DEREK: The pauses are natural; it makes a conference talk | |
sound more conversational. | |
KIRILL: How do you allocate time? How do you make sure | |
you're not spending 20 hours on a slide deck? | |
HADLEY: We never create a new presentation. | |
JENNIFER: Talk more often! Manufacture opportunities to talk more | |
often, so that you're not starting from scratch. | |
HADLEY: There may be pathologies where you spend hours tweaking | |
slides. Maybe you need to start by scratching things out. My | |
pathology is buying new fonts. | |
HADLEY: I will rough out the whole thing, and then let it sit | |
overnight. If you can, prepare a week before the talk, and | |
then don't look at it until the day before the talk. | |
ARON: I started with a story first and an outline. The | |
slides were the absolute last thing that I did. | |
JOE: Can you talk about the relationship between the concept | |
and the slides? | |
HADLEY: One of the goals of this is being brutally honest about | |
what this is. | |
JENNIFER: Another is that if a few slides from this get circulated, | |
what should they be? Put those slides in first and then | |
connect the dots. It's easy to connect the micro-stories and | |
then never get to the conclusion you want to reach. | |
HADLEY: You don't want your slide deck to be self-contained. Why | |
would they waste time watching you deliver it when they | |
could read it? | |
[ INAUDIBLE QUESTION, PRESUMABLY RELATED TO NOTES ] | |
JENNIFER: I use the presenter notes in keynote, so that when I look | |
at the slides before my talk I have them. When you're | |
switching between RStudio and demos, you can't see your | |
notes. | |
HADLEY: There's a certain level of preparation. If you end up | |
preparing so much, and you forget one, the audience is not | |
going to know that you missed one -- they don't know what | |
you're going to cover! It distracts you more. I don't use | |
speaker notes. Sometimes I don't know what the next slide is | |
going to be. | |
JOE: But you're looking at it just to remind yourself what | |
the point is. Some speakers are basically just reading the | |
slides when they come up. That means you're trying to teach | |
too many concepts. Your first sentence after the slide comes | |
up should come out with conviction. | |
HADLEY: One of the most useful slide layouts, which is what I | |
have a template, is assertion plus evidence. The goal of the | |
slide is to supply evidence for the assertion. This makes it | |
less likely to create bullet points. | |
JOE: All this advice is awesome, but some people don't need | |
it. Whatever the hell Yihui does is working. And as I was | |
matching Mara, I was thinking "Only Mara could give this | |
talk." Mara, you did the opposite of all these things and it | |
worked great. You don't have to be Hadley or Jenny. You can | |
be Mara or Yihui. | |
JOE: What other problems comes up? | |
HADLEY: Demos don't work. Hecklers. | |
JENNIFER: I wouldn't plan a demo I wasn't completely sure would | |
work. Do not call the Internet! If there is a video I plan a | |
static version of the code in case it doesn't work. | |
HADLEY: Never assume that the wifi is going to be any good, | |
despite any assurances to the contrary. Code demos where you | |
type the code, even if you make mistakes, it's really good. | |
It shows that developers make mistakes too. | |
HADLEY: One piece of advice for asking questions is that you | |
should count in your head up to 7. That's how long it takes | |
form a question in your head. | |
JOE: So when you've given a talk, how do you judge success? | |
HADLEY: You can see it in the faces of people. | |
JENNIFER: If you get any reaction, any questions that seem good. | |
You find out later if it was succcessful or not. | |
HADLEY: If you're teaching, you can tell if people are following | |
along or if their eyes are glazing over. There are things | |
that happen that make you think your talk is terrible, like | |
people falling asleep. That doesn't mean that things are | |
going terribly, it means they are sleepy. Accept these | |
things. | |
JOE: Can we say thanks to these two? | |
[ EXTENDED APPLAUSE ] | |
JENNIFER: I have two more things to add. Take your font and | |
make it bigger. And then make it bigger again. | |
Anticipate that it needs to be huge. Put the link at the | |
front, and put it in like 150pt font size. People often | |
want to take a picture. Leave a slide up for questions. | |
HADLEY: Don't have a slide that says "Questions". Have a slide | |
with useful information. | |
JENNIFER: The value of putting the slides up is greatly enhanced if | |
it's put up from the start and at slide 0. If you're going | |
to bother to put them up, there's a much bigger payoff that way. | |
[ SCATTERED CONVERSATION ] | |
EXIT JOE, JENNIFER, HADLEY | |
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