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Date: 2013-07-15
Description: (1) <dooglus> lost 1300 BTC
23:38:37 (34725) <florence> no new name
23:38:37 (20153) <unknown> flory. please don't gamble with any of doogs money, and if anyone here is up in investment consider donating to doog
23:38:59 (2458) <usagi> I gave money away when I was up
23:39:02 (34458) <florence> so doog did a charity, and let flory gamble with free 1300 btc
23:39:03 (1601) <willphase> if flory pays it back then he's still up, and doog doesn't take a huge hit
23:39:05 (34458) <florence> is that what happened today ?
23:39:17 (34725) <florence> guys
23:39:29 (34725) <florence> we need to organize a 51% attack and reset and take flory's payments
23:39:30 (13856) <dicER> kind of.. actually it's even worse
23:39:36 (9) <uvwvj> no its not all doog's fault, If he cashed me out for 100 btc and then an hour later I comeback here and still see 100 btc the first thing I do is tell Doog- nobody else played on his computer I watched his bets, if you would do same then you a disagrace
23:40:00 (9006) <BigBitz> I watched his bets also. It *was* the same dude.
23:40:04 (9006) <BigBitz> it was the same "system" they used.
23:40:05 (5884) <no whammies> so.. someone pulled a fast one?
23:40:15 (34458) <florence> someone pulled a dumb one actually
23:40:15 (34659) <flory> I'm shamed even it's not my fault at all...
23:40:18 (1) <dooglus> 34458: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg2735046#msg2735046
23:40:27 (34659) <flory> :(
23:40:27 (20153) <unknown> florence, stop being silly, no one here will be able to mount a 51% attack.
23:40:31 (34725) <florence> flory if I were you i would bet
23:40:36 (34725) <florence> and win enough money to pay dooglus back
23:40:36 (9) <uvwvj> you either make the whale repay or you ban him till he does
23:40:38 (13856) <dicER> srsly guys we'd all cash it out, too. it's a quite stupid mistake given how much coins this is about...
23:40:47 (2) <Deb> doog made a mistake, didn't debit flory's acct (celeste) flory didn't report it, someone gambled from his account, and lost it
23:40:48 (34458) <florence> the whale will hapily take the ban
23:40:52 (9006) <BigBitz> flory: you could do the right thing and pay back the coins.
23:40:52 (33842) <chelsea> cmon flory lets play bro
23:40:55 (33842) <chelsea> then pay doog back
23:40:55 (34725) <florence> celeste how old are you
23:41:03 (34458) <florence> i sneezed today and server ip banned me, so what ?
23:41:11 (9) <uvwvj> no way I would cash it out, I could not live with myself even if it was a $1
23:41:16 (34458) <florence> i wish i was credited 1300 btc during that too
23:41:19 (1167) <mercedes> same dude, or dudes? is it a few rich mates with one laptop and noone wants to admit to this?
23:41:28 (34458) <florence> too much time setting up ip bans, no time to properly transfer
23:41:30 (1601) <willphase> hey flory but you're still up so I think paying it back would make you feel so good :)
23:41:40 (2458) <usagi> florence; i wish i had 1300 btc in the whole world
23:41:43 (1601) <willphase> you would become a legend in justdice
23:41:49 (5884) <no whammies> wowzers...
23:41:50 (5884) <no whammies> doog
23:41:58 (1) <dooglus> yes whammies
23:42:00 (34725) <florence> flory how old are you
23:42:03 (5884) <no whammies> sorry to hear about this
23:42:04 (9) <uvwvj> no the whale wont be happy taking the ban, he is a gambler, he wants to gamble, and right now this is the site
23:42:05 (1) <dooglus> wowzers
23:42:06 (968) <martingale> doog already fixed this. he will earn back his 1300. probably in a few months (how much did SD make? 60k in 6 months, last year?)
23:42:17 (34725) <florence> dooglus will you increase your cut
23:42:25 (34725) <florence> from 5% to 25% until this is repaid
23:42:32 (5884) <no whammies> my share increased.. i feel bad though
23:42:32 (2090) <Jeweller> so if 34659 is still on and has the 'in question' 1300BTC
23:42:33 (1) <dooglus> florence: what cut? there's no profit to take a cut of
23:42:38 (34725) <florence> future profits
23:42:44 (34725) <florence> investor get 0.75% instead of 0.95%
23:42:51 (2090) <Jeweller> what kind of reward should there be for him?
23:42:53 (1) <dooglus> florence: I suspect the whale will continue fucking us
23:42:58 (2090) <Jeweller> if he returns the 1300BTC?
23:43:09 (34458) <florence> actually i'm happy that doog is honest about the situation
23:43:12 (34725) <florence> he should get 0.5% house edge
23:43:14 (968) <martingale> the just reward of doing the right thing?
23:43:15 (1) <dooglus> I don't think the money is important to him
23:43:19 (34458) <florence> he should just accept that he lost 1300 btc and be done with it
23:43:25 (34725) <florence> doog give him 0.5% house edge forever
23:43:32 (2619) <Aahzmundus> but doog, in the long run... the math works out
23:43:32 (34458) <florence> take more care next time
23:43:39 (34725) <florence> WAIT has there be any large depsitors
23:43:43 (2619) <Aahzmundus> the whale cant fuck us forever doog
23:43:45 (20153) <unknown> dooglus. eventually this site will have a lot of profit.
23:44:01 (34458) <florence> so let me just understand one thing
23:44:01 (34725) <florence> no that is false
23:44:03 (12326) <Lucid> i dont like 2 florences...
23:44:15 (2090) <Jeweller> there's more than 2.
23:44:15 (34458) <florence> dooglus has a lot of bitcoins outside of this site ? or, did new investments come in ?
23:44:19 (20153) <unknown> whats false
23:44:30 (20153) <unknown> (34725) <florence> ?
23:44:37 (34725) <florence> florence: dooglus sold shares i believe
23:44:44 (31552) <Hubert> im trying to bring more BTC in, but it will not work.
23:44:49 (31552) <Hubert> says invalid address
23:44:51 (34725) <florence> in wolrdbitcoinexchange
23:44:53 (2090) <Jeweller> 34659 is, supposedly, the person who got the 1300BTC out, but still had it on the account.
23:44:53 (20153) <unknown> shares in this company?
23:44:59 (34725) <florence> hubert hat
23:45:01 (34725) <florence> unknown no
23:45:07 (34725) <dylan> shares in worldbitcoinexchange
23:45:09 (34458) <ermintrude> i just want to understand where the money came from
23:45:10 (346) <!-- nim --> hoold on a second
23:45:16 (346) <!-- nim --> can I get a TLDR?
23:45:18 (1) <dooglus> I changed the florence names
23:45:18 (34725) <dylan> yes
23:45:26 (34725) <dylan> what florence names?
23:45:28 (9) <uvwvj> Doog - is exactly right its not the money exciting him its the gambling aspect of it - BAN HIM
23:45:37 (34725) <dylan> but I like the name florence better :(
23:45:40 (34458) <ermintrude> uvwj ban by ip ?
23:45:40 (1) <dooglus> nim: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg2735046#msg2735046
23:45:42 (9) <uvwvj> Then he will repay Doog
23:45:44 (34458) <ermintrude> i got a ip ban today doo
23:45:56 (34725) <florence> i didn't get an ip ban
23:45:56 (34458) <ermintrude> i sneezed near the server, and it banned me
23:45:56 (1959) <bobbarker> how could doog sell shares of a site whose value is composed of people who choose to invest lol
23:45:59 (34725) <florence> how do I get an ip ban
23:46:09 (34725) <florence> bobbarker: didn't dooglus own woldbitcoinexchange
23:46:09 (34458) <ermintrude> sneeze
23:46:10 (20153) <unknown> bobbarker, no different shares
23:46:17 (1167) <mercedes> lol a casino banning a whale, casinos comp free everything for a player like this
23:46:22 (1959) <bobbarker> the people who invested already bought "shares"
23:46:28 (34725) <florence> no
23:46:29 (2) <Deb> no florence, he didn't
23:46:34 (34725) <florence> not talking about just-dice
23:46:39 (2) <Deb> he just cleaned up the mess for the guy who did
23:46:41 (34725) <florence> I know he worked on worldbitcoinexchange
23:46:45 (34725) <florence> oh?
23:46:52 (1) <dooglus> I worked on it, I didn't own any part of it
23:47:06 (34725) <florence> odd I remember you having it on your sig for ages
23:47:18 (1) <dooglus> I had the claim site in my sig after it shut down
23:47:22 (2) <Deb> so people could get their money back from it, i think
23:47:28 (1) <dooglus> for clients to get their BTC back
23:47:28 (34458) <ermintrude> how many shares do you still have at worldbitcoinexchange ?
23:47:37 (2) <Deb> there were no shares
23:47:43 (1) <dooglus> wbx appears to be running as a scam site now, but idk
23:47:47 (20153) <unknown> wouldn't make sense to sell shares here, the investor idea is good,really good. remember this site has only been on for a few weeks and doog has been under a lot of stress
23:47:53 (9) <uvwvj> Casinos comp whales who are trustworthy nothing about this guy is trustworthy
23:47:58 (34458) <ermintrude> so where did these 1300 BTC came from ?
23:47:59 (34725) <florence> uknown good for DOOGLUS
23:48:02 (1) <dooglus> I never had any 'shares' - I don't think shares were ever sold
23:48:03 (34725) <florence> very bad for investors
23:48:04 (34458) <ermintrude> is doog a millionarie ?
23:48:07 (34725) <florence> I lost money investing
23:48:15 (34725) <florence> ermintrude: yes $2.5 million at least
23:48:23 (2) <Deb> heh florence
23:48:29 (2) <Deb> not his though ;)
23:48:39 (34458) <ermintrude> so its from other investors ?
23:48:40 (34725) <florence> not yet hahahaha
23:48:42 (34458) <ermintrude> i'm not getting it
23:48:50 (34725) <florence> /evil laugh/
23:48:56 (2619) <Aahzmundus> he could be.... RUN DOOG RUN!!! take the cold wallet and RUN!!!
23:49:04 (2) <Deb> the invested is a combination of coins which have been invested in the site
23:49:06 (1) <dooglus> lol
23:49:06 (34725) <florence> but then it would be
23:49:08 (34458) <ermintrude> invested amount has not decreased, doog paid 1300 BTC
23:49:08 (34725) <florence> TIME FOR BATMAN
23:49:11 (968) <martingale> how old is SD? and it's made more than 70k.... how old is JD? how much will it make by the end of the year? I understand doog feels bad now.
23:49:18 (34725) <florence> martingale: sdice was when btc price was low
23:49:19 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, 1300 was not taken from celeste account after he withdrew the 1300 bitcoin, and then he gambled it all away, the 1300 that wasn't his
23:49:20 (13856) <dicER> https://blockchain.info/de/address/1ChELp7ynrwpktFJvRgrBECWxWWg2Mxu72 found the whale :)
23:49:21 (2) <Deb> some are doogs, some are mine, some are neither of ours
23:49:21 (1) <dooglus> the invested amount decreased by 1300
23:49:30 (1) <dooglus> it was 26k this morning. now it's 25k
23:49:35 (968) <martingale> why would doog run now, when he can make a lot more by not running.
23:49:35 (2706) <spacejelly> in two weeks, what this site has achieved is phenomenal
23:49:35 (34458) <ermintrude> unknown, so it was investors money ?
23:49:48 (20153) <unknown> no doog paid it out his own
23:49:50 (34725) <florence> investors did not lose money
23:49:52 (34725) <florence> dooglus lost money
23:49:56 (34458) <ermintrude> ok
23:49:58 (34725) <florence> dooglus lost investor money dooglus paid investor money
23:49:59 (34458) <ermintrude> thanks
23:50:10 (27540) <highroller> i'm too dumb for javascript, tried every possible syntax for setTimeout now
23:50:12 (34725) <florence> celestia lost gambling celestia claim hacked celestia actually has an investment
23:50:15 (34725) <florence> highroller
23:50:31 (34725) <florence> setTimeout(function(){ alert("fuck javascript");}, 1000);
23:50:32 (20153) <unknown> celeste is a millionaire remember.
23:50:33 (12326) <Lucid> hey martingale do you know much about the python bot?
23:50:35 (34458) <ermintrude> dude if the bank gave you 2+ million in fake virtual money, you would do the same
23:50:40 (9006) <BigBitz> Hey, doog, you there?
23:50:44 (2706) <spacejelly> I can't even begin to imagine the hours and stress running this is causing. doog and deb, if you have a beach nearby, I prescribe a day chilling by the waterfront!
23:50:47 (968) <martingale> Lucid, no. I stick to the javascript bot.
23:51:06 (12326) <Lucid> have you found a way to get the bot to stop if a certain loss it taken?
23:51:09 (968) <martingale> spacejelly, they better have a pager or something, for when the hotwallet "beeps"
23:51:14 (2706) <spacejelly> if no beach then lake or river is just as good.
23:51:20 (34725) <florence> DUDE
23:51:23 (34725) <florence> YOU JSUT WOKE ME UP
23:51:25 (34725) <florence> for that link
23:51:25 (2090) <Jeweller> can we at least agree/ be assured, that there are no more manual withdrawals?
23:51:26 (2706) <spacejelly> heh, if it's just a day I'm sure we can wait ;p
23:51:29 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, if my bank gave me something and i lost it, no matter how i would be arrested, in australia you can't get away with the banks mistake
23:51:31 (34725) <florence> jeweller: no
23:51:36 (34725) <florence> all coins should be on server
23:51:44 (34725) <florence> unknown yes you can
23:51:47 (2706) <spacejelly> oh, and found this earlier. about the bank credit in your favour debate.
23:51:49 (34725) <florence> you just have to disappear from the country
23:51:51 (34458) <ermintrude> unknown, that is not fake virtual money
23:51:56 (968) <martingale> Lucid, there is a way to do it progmatically,.. but i just set mine to die after 6 losses.
23:51:57 (2706) <spacejelly> IA132998SC002
23:52:02 (2706) <spacejelly> http://www.money.co.uk/article/1005023-can-you-keep-money-accidentally-paid-into-your-bank-account.htm
23:52:04 (34458) <ermintrude> unknown when your bank gives you bitcoin, without knowing who you are
23:52:07 (968) <martingale> and make sure i have just the right amount if coins.
23:52:09 (34458) <ermintrude> unknown then we check your claim
23:52:12 (2090) <Jeweller> I mean, that there will be no more deposit / withdraw transactions that don't go through the server code
23:52:20 (968) <martingale> of
23:52:31 (34725) <florence> no you cant
23:52:33 (34458) <ermintrude> so can we get all the rolls from the site please ?
23:52:34 (34725) <florence> easy you run
23:52:38 (34725) <florence> ermintrude no
23:52:42 (34725) <florence> that will reveal the rng is flawed
23:52:42 (20153) <unknown> florence, how. bank mistakes have been tested in court here in oz and the customer who got the free money always loses
23:52:45 (34725) <florence> and is 0.0015 biased
23:52:48 (12326) <Lucid> where did you find the code? and if you made it your self can you help me program it?
23:52:50 (34725) <florence> unknown: depends
23:52:52 (2706) <spacejelly> oop, wrong paste first. ignore that first one, and no, it's not a password ;p
23:52:54 (34458) <ermintrude> florence, i'm not really talking about that
23:52:55 (968) <martingale> Yes.. all manual transactions must debit accounts first.
23:52:57 (34725) <florence> depends on if he RUNS out of te COUNTRY
23:52:58 (34725) <florence> ba ba ba
23:52:58 (34458) <ermintrude> florence, i just want the fucking rolls
23:52:59 (34725) <florence> BATMAN
23:53:04 (12326) <Lucid> please :D
23:53:05 (34725) <florence> ermintrude: so do I
23:53:11 (34725) <florence> I am an IRS agent
23:53:18 (34725) <florence> I want to identify people's roles and send them W90s
23:53:19 (968) <martingale> Lucid, it's the BRules one, the modified vlees code. All I did was edit it a bit.
23:53:20 (27540) <highroller> florence your alert timeout works but my adopted line from forum script doesnt: setTimeout(function(){ roll();}, 1000);
23:53:23 (20153) <unknown> lol
23:53:24 (34458) <ermintrude> are you retard florence ?
23:53:29 (34458) <ermintrude> the rolls are public
23:53:37 (4664) <trekkie> florence is really starting to annoy me
23:53:41 (9006) <BigBitz> doog: can you process a withdraw for me? I'm concerned to keep my money in here currently.
23:53:53 (34725) <florence> highroller what is roll()
23:53:54 (34857) <danica> florence, bad try trolling. Try another site.
23:53:56 (12326) <Lucid> @martingale thats the one i use but what did you "edit" to make it stop?
23:53:57 (34725) <florence> bigbitz good idea
23:54:12 (2619) <Aahzmundus> Hold strong investers!!
23:54:14 (2619) <Aahzmundus> hold strong!
23:54:15 (968) <martingale> oh. Lucid... i didn't edit to make it stop. it stops when i'm broke.
23:54:21 (968) <martingale> heheheeh.. really.
23:54:25 (34725) <florence> we need another whale
23:54:27 (27540) <highroller> florence, I`m using this script https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg2536674#msg2536674
23:54:32 (34725) <florence> what do you think. if we have another whale house wins or loses
23:54:40 (34725) <florence> whale as in 1000 btc or more
23:54:52 (12326) <Lucid> oh lol
23:54:57 (20153) <unknown> doog, i suggest lowering max bet a little to survive attacks like this
23:54:59 (12326) <Lucid> that does me no good :P
23:55:09 (34458) <ermintrude> what attack people ? doog just screwed up
23:55:19 (34725) <florence> no unknown
23:55:21 (34725) <florence> that won't work
23:55:24 (968) <martingale> Lucid, invest the coins you don't want to lose, or withdraw it. just keep the right balance while playing.
23:55:26 (34725) <florence> he can just make a script and bet 1000 times in 1 second
23:55:30 (20153) <unknown> the first whale attack that took all profits
23:55:38 (13856) <dicER> and quadruple checking payouts > 1000 btc :3
23:55:39 (34725) <florence> the second one will give back all the profits right
23:55:41 (8475) <alabaster> doog: anything wrong with withdrawing straight to the donation address?
23:55:52 (20153) <unknown> florence, yep and he will loss, its the max bet that causes so much variance
23:55:54 (34725) <florence> dicer: so if I withdraw 999 btc that should b efine
23:55:59 (2) <Deb> shouldn't be a problem, alabaster
23:56:01 (13856) <dicER> of course
23:56:02 (34725) <florence> alablaster: yes dooglus will simply send it to that address
23:56:11 (34725) <florence> dooglus sends, hears beep
23:56:11 (34458) <ermintrude> is this a charity now ? donation address ?
23:56:16 (34725) <florence> dooglus receives, hears beep
23:56:25 (4536) <angelina> florence: 1 big bet isn't the same as multiple smaller ones
23:56:30 (4536) <angelina> much more variance with 1 bet
23:56:49 (34725) <florence> i'm talking about a malicious attacker who has funny money
23:56:56 (20153) <unknown> angelina, thx that was what i was trying to say. the variance nakowa brought was immense.
23:57:13 (20153) <unknown> funny money??
23:57:28 (4664) <trekkie> doog, just donated 1 to you from [1GoBLUE4]
23:57:41 (2) <Deb> thanks trekkie
23:57:51 (34458) <ermintrude> just-charity.com
23:57:57 (34863) <dog> hey waht happened
23:58:00 (4664) <trekkie> I hope other investors can donate some of their share
23:58:05 (34863) <dog> wtf is going on
23:58:18 (34863) <dog> where can i read up on what happened
23:58:28 (2) <Deb> here's the address again, so you don't have to search for it [368544e7]
23:58:33 (4664) <trekkie> my view is that 1300 would never have been gambled had the account been debited properly, so I wouldn't have had that anyway
23:58:34 (13856) <dicER> plot-twist: doog is celeste
23:58:41 (34863) <dog> dicer that's true
23:58:45 (13951) <alana> ooh, we got some back
23:58:54 (34863) <dog> who is celeste
23:59:23 (20153) <unknown> celeste = nakowa = cici = flory
23:59:25 (34863) <dog> dooglus?
23:59:30 (20153) <unknown> millionaire whale
23:59:32 (13856) <dicER> the luckiest whale on earth
23:59:37 (4664) <trekkie> Deb, I think you meant [17r66d9S]
23:59:39 (34458) <ermintrude> which is no that lucky
23:59:46 (4664) <trekkie> that was a TxID you posted
23:59:48 (2) <Deb> celeste was the whale, cashed out, doog sent the btc to celeste but forgot to debit them from the acct, celeste left computer somewhere and someone gambled them, and lost, so doog covered the 1300 from his own investment
23:59:54 (2) <Deb> oh, oops
23:59:56 (2) <Deb> sorry
23:59:59 (2) <Deb> thanks trek
23:59:59 (10091) <KuraHoshi> :( just wanna withdraw 5BTC and can't do?
00:00:16 (20153) <unknown> hot wallet it low i think
00:00:18 (10091) <KuraHoshi> just small money :(
00:00:25 (2) <Deb> hot wallet might be empty, i'll get doog to fill it
00:00:35 (4664) <trekkie> 2.0498 out of 1300 donated so far
00:00:39 (34725) <florence> dooglus has funds to refill hot pocket?
00:00:41 (34725) <florence> or dooglus has no funds
00:00:43 (5884) <no whammies> 1300 is a lot of fucking bitcoin
00:00:51 (4664) <trekkie> florence, why don't you go troll elsewhere?
00:00:52 (2) <Deb> there are no funds missing
00:01:05 (20153) <unknown> trekkie, flory paid back 120 too, so getting there.....
00:01:09 (13856) <dicER> yes please i want my 50 btc out until everything is solved
00:01:14 (34458) <ermintrude> i just wish doog stopped with the ip ban on each sneeze
00:01:14 (4664) <trekkie> we don't need your FUD
00:01:32 (20153) <unknown> florence, that is uncool, we already know there are funds and doog has already taken the loss
00:01:41 (4664) <trekkie> well, if flory would pay back 50% even, that would seem to be the honorable thing
00:01:52 (34458) <ermintrude> paying back from his own pocket ? no gonna happen
00:01:52 (34863) <dog> house edge
00:01:55 (34863) <dog> needs to be higher
00:01:59 (2281) <satoshi's homie> there is no honor in a situation like this,
00:01:59 (34458) <ermintrude> what kind of charity-whale do you think cici is ?
00:02:07 (20153) <unknown> agreed trekkie, remember nakowa is still 2000-3000 bitcoin up on us
00:02:08 (34863) <dog> 1% too low. sdice is 1.9%
00:02:16 (34863) <dog> is nakowa satoshi nakamoto?
00:02:18 (31791) <celeste> I deposit 120 in his flory's account, and doog "I credited it to celeste's account", therefore, I cannot play (and possibly win).
00:02:39 (34863) <dog> celeste: what
00:02:42 (34863) <dog> are you trying to play again
00:02:50 (34458) <ermintrude> celeste, so you lost 120 ?
00:02:56 (34458) <ermintrude> doog stole from you ?
00:02:58 (1601) <willphase> hi celeste
00:02:59 (34863) <dog> yeah
00:03:00 (2281) <satoshi's homie> you should lose about 1300 more
00:03:07 (34863) <dog> wow dooglus stealing from people who got free money
00:03:09 (34863) <dog> how strange
00:03:10 (2281) <satoshi's homie> why are you even here bro?
00:03:12 (34863) <dog> steal from stealers
00:03:16 (20153) <unknown> no, what account is the 120 in????
00:03:20 (34458) <ermintrude> it is still stealing
00:03:29 (20153) <unknown> dog, we don't know, please be quiet
00:03:30 (34863) <dog> it is not
00:03:36 (1601) <willphase> celeste I think doog put -1300 on celeste's account and when you desposit into flory he moved to celeste
00:03:36 (34863) <dog> it is like i steal someone from someone who steals from me
00:03:41 (34863) <dog> you steal $100 i steal $100 from you
00:03:47 (34458) <ermintrude> you stole $100
00:03:47 (34863) <dog> willphase so that is no stealing
00:03:48 (2) <Deb> thats correct will
00:03:54 (1601) <willphase> so flory is 0 and celeste is -1180 - so you just need to deposit another 1180 to play again
00:04:01 (34863) <dog> no
00:04:03 (34863) <dog> 1181
00:04:07 (34873) <chelsea> Put 2k in celeste acct
00:04:08 (34863) <dog> 0 btc no play
00:04:09 (2281) <satoshi's homie> or even trying to get anything fair ? we all know what the deal is and if your not going to pay back you should hope your using something to hide yourself because I would be getting lawyers and Private investigators to find you
00:04:09 (2) <Deb> well, 1180.00001
00:04:15 (1601) <willphase> around 1180 - so go ahead and deposit and it will all be made right :)
00:04:23 (34458) <ermintrude> celeste, better pick other place to play
00:04:28 (34863) <dog> celeste you should be trying to find a bug with celsete's account
00:04:34 (34458) <ermintrude> doog gonna fuck you every time you come around
00:04:35 (34863) <dog> if you have a negative balance you probably are able to game the system
00:04:38 (34873) <chelsea> Dont be a pus celeste
00:04:38 (34863) <dog> and create more fake balance
00:04:46 (34863) <dog> let's not inslute celeste
00:04:55 (10091) <KuraHoshi> celeste,just deposit 1000 and play!I finish investing
00:05:10 (34458) <ermintrude> Kura, how can he be sure doog not gonna take it ?
00:05:15 (13856) <dicER> well well that's the shit with online casinos.. in vegas they would just keep kicking faces until the money is back
00:05:15 (34458) <ermintrude> i would stay away from him, if i was him
00:05:26 (2) <Deb> the account needs to come back into the black before he can play on it
00:05:31 (34458) <ermintrude> stay away from here, celeste
00:05:39 (10091) <KuraHoshi> lol
00:05:43 (34873) <chelsea> Cmon celeste
00:05:46 (4536) <angelina> basically dooglus donated 1300btc to his investors was the end result here
00:05:53 (4664) <trekkie> yes
00:05:54 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, shhhhhhhh
00:05:55 (34873) <chelsea> I believe in you
00:05:55 (4536) <angelina> so maybe we should pay him back
00:05:59 (34863) <dog> no angea
00:06:00 (4664) <trekkie> i did
00:06:04 (34863) <dog> 1220 btc
00:06:08 (34863) <dog> because celeste repaid 120 btc debt
00:06:17 (34863) <dog> dooglus should charge interest on celeste debt
00:06:18 (4536) <angelina> look, if he had won instead and tried to withdraw, doog would have caught him
00:06:20 (4664) <trekkie> your math isn't very good LOL
00:06:22 (2) <Deb> some people are giving back to doog, but its up to them
00:06:32 (34863) <dog> actually dooglus should sell celeste debt to others
00:06:35 (9006) <BigBitz> What's the end game here, doog/deb?
00:06:38 (20153) <unknown> angelina, depends on who is up or down??? i am still down from nakowa the other day. but many here are up on th1300
00:06:38 (34863) <dog> and get funds now
00:06:42 (4536) <angelina> so the only real outcome was loss -> donate to investors
00:06:47 (34863) <dog> bigbitz have you got your withdrawal yet
00:06:51 (2) <Deb> what do you mean, big?
00:06:51 (34458) <ermintrude> i would give some btc to doog if he actually stopped banning ips on each fucking sneeze
00:06:53 (9006) <BigBitz> I didn't ask for it./....
00:06:55 (4536) <angelina> unknown, i am down too, but it's still doog's money i have
00:06:59 (34125) <Jerry> hHi, Deb, i have just deposited 99.9995 BTC from inputs.io, but not appeared in my account, please help! user id 34125
00:07:01 (34863) <dog> oh thought you did
00:07:16 (8475) <alabaster> I like the idea of increasing commission until doog recovers
00:07:19 (34863) <dog> has anyone got their cash outs
00:07:23 (2) <Deb> doog will eat the loss, hope to make it back, i guess
00:07:24 (34458) <ermintrude> Jerry, you must have been identified as a whale. thus all your money belongs to doog now
00:07:28 (20153) <unknown> increase commision is totally cool
00:07:32 (20153) <unknown> 20% at least
00:07:37 (34863) <dog> guys Jerry is actually celestia
00:07:43 (14729) <abby> cashouts here are instant still right?
00:07:49 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, what are you talking about?
00:07:53 (34863) <dog> abby no
00:07:53 (20153) <unknown> stop the FUD
00:07:54 (34863) <dog> hot wallet no funds
00:08:05 (14729) <abby> how long are we haviong to wait then
00:08:05 (34458) <ermintrude> unknown, celeste account is at -1800 now
00:08:08 (2) <Deb> the hot wallet will need refilling, and have to wait for confirms
00:08:12 (34458) <ermintrude> it is not FUD
00:08:15 (34863) <dog> why -1800
00:08:17 (34863) <dog> what is FUD
00:08:21 (34458) <ermintrude> he deposited 120 BTC and doog ate it
00:08:22 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude how do u know that?
00:08:28 (34863) <dog> proof
00:08:28 (34458) <ermintrude> he told us retard
00:08:29 (34458) <ermintrude> 5 minutes ago
00:08:31 (3980) <*Angel*> FUD = fear, uncertainty, doubt
00:08:32 (34458) <ermintrude> deb confirmed
00:08:35 (14729) <abby> when will it refill then?
00:08:37 (34863) <dog> OI
00:08:38 (4664) <trekkie> i believe celeste account would be at -1180, since it was at -1300 and celeste deposited 120
00:08:39 (34863) <dog> no saying retard
00:08:44 (13856) <dicER> yep can't withdraw, too.. c'mon guys i want my money out before someone decides to *win* it
00:08:44 (1601) <willphase> hey celeste you should deposit the 1180 so you can play again :)
00:08:46 (34863) <dog> trekkie but he is at -1800 btc
00:08:52 (2) <Deb> the money was transferred into celestes acct to cover the - balance
00:08:53 (20153) <unknown> no, the account was -1300, now is is 1180
00:08:55 (34458) <ermintrude> ops, -1180 guys
00:08:57 (34863) <dog> when ill doog get withdrawals
00:09:04 (20153) <unknown> -1180
00:09:05 (34458) <ermintrude> now -1180 + 99
00:09:13 (34863) <dog> what did he bet 99 btc more ??
00:09:14 (34863) <dog> and lost
00:09:18 (9006) <BigBitz> Deb: Help me out... I don't know what to do with my money :(
00:09:28 (34863) <dog> jerry keep it in
00:09:30 (34863) <dog> house will win
00:09:34 (20153) <unknown> sorry ermintrude i saw you made a type and meant -1180 instead of -1800
00:09:45 (4664) <trekkie> big...if you are uncertain, I would pull it out and wait until you are
00:09:47 (34458) <ermintrude> yes, that was the case
00:09:54 (2) <Deb> big, i can tell you that your invested is safe, as far as the coins go, the profits should go up, but yah, what he said
00:09:55 (34863) <dog> i would not pull out
00:09:56 (34863) <dog> hosue will win
00:09:57 (20153) <unknown> :) sorry bud
00:10:08 (34863) <dog> except if server hack
00:10:10 (34863) <dog> and seed compromise
00:10:15 (34863) <dog> and steal leech of funds from invesotrs
00:10:22 (9006) <BigBitz> I have nothing but faith in doog.
00:10:24 (34125) <Jerry> now 80 BTC deposited, but still 19.9995 not deposited, i forget to fill the user id in the note when i sent...
00:10:27 (2) <Deb> pull em out if you're worried, really
00:10:30 (34458) <ermintrude> now can we stop with the ip bans on sneezing ?
00:10:31 (9006) <BigBitz> and I feel like if I withdraw my funds I am being "unfaithful" if that makes sense.
00:10:39 (34863) <dog> bigbitz why withdrawal
00:10:42 (34863) <dog> why not deposit more
00:10:42 (13856) <dicER> @deb i can't
00:10:44 (34863) <dog> to help dooglus
00:10:55 (34458) <ermintrude> Jerry, seriously, you should pick other place to play
00:10:59 (34863) <dog> jerry did dooglus steal from you
00:10:59 (2) <Deb> it does make sense, big, but do what you feel is right
00:11:00 (20153) <unknown> jerry u need to contact support, the id is important from inputs.io
00:11:03 (4664) <trekkie> well, depositing more doesn't really help doog
00:11:10 (34863) <dog> yes it does
00:11:10 (2) <Deb> cant what, dicer, sorry, i missed something
00:11:16 (34863) <dog> deposit more so dooglus can earn more comission
00:11:17 (4664) <trekkie> unless you gamble and lose
00:11:18 (14729) <abby> i just deposited, so you are telling me if i wanna withdrawl i cant?
00:11:21 (20153) <unknown> noone stole from jerry, he forget inputs.io id that is all
00:11:22 (34863) <dog> comission means morre dooglus repay
00:11:24 (34863) <dog> abby no not now
00:11:26 (4664) <trekkie> ok
00:11:27 (34863) <dog> you have to wait in line
00:11:28 (13856) <dicER> get my funds out. hotwallet is empty
00:11:29 (14729) <abby> wtf
00:11:30 (34863) <dog> for dooglus to give funds
00:11:31 (1) <dooglus> Jerry: done
00:11:35 (2) <Deb> oh, wd? ok, doog will refill it
00:11:44 (34863) <dog> dooglus will refill
00:11:44 (34125) <Jerry> ok thanks a lot!
00:11:47 (34863) <dog> but no instant access to funds
00:11:47 (1) <dooglus> how wallet has 127 BTC
00:11:49 (34863) <dog> jerry are you celeste
00:11:52 (34863) <dog> i think yo uare celeste
00:11:52 (4664) <trekkie> geez, everyone take a Xanax, please
00:12:02 (1) <dooglus> hot*
00:12:08 (34458) <ermintrude> jerry run as fast you can dude
00:12:08 (8475) <alabaster> some freaked out people in here
00:12:12 (13856) <dicER> ok just a sec
00:12:29 (10091) <KuraHoshi> doog no need to transfer money by himself,just move money to hot wallet
00:12:39 (10091) <KuraHoshi> system does well
00:12:42 (2) <Deb> he is moving it to the hot wallet
00:12:46 (13856) <dicER> There was a problem with your withdrawal: The hot wallet has insufficient funds. Please contact us (see bottom of FAQ tab) to request a manual withdrawal, or wait for the wallet to be refilled.
00:12:55 (34863) <dog> dicer how much
00:12:55 (10091) <KuraHoshi> yep
00:12:58 (34863) <dog> how much did you try to withdrwaal
00:13:05 (34458) <ermintrude> 1 billion coins!
00:13:09 (13856) <dicER> 50 + some bitcents
00:13:12 (34863) <dog> omg
00:13:14 (34863) <dog> 127 btc?
00:13:14 (9006) <BigBitz> I'm gonna go with "I have faith in dooglus and keep my coins invested"
00:13:16 (2) <Deb> should be ok now
00:13:17 (34863) <dog> house only has 50 btc now
00:13:22 (10091) <KuraHoshi> same this side,and I just wanna withdraw 5BTC lol
00:13:28 (34863) <dog> dooglus add more to hot pocket?
00:13:33 (2) <Deb> thanks big, means a lot, and of course if things change doog will let you know ahead of time
00:13:39 (1) <dooglus> dog: it just needs to confirm
00:13:43 (10091) <KuraHoshi> seems like hot wallet is empty now
00:13:43 (34863) <dog> what if doog increases comission to 25%
00:13:44 (34863) <dog> or 50%
00:13:53 (34863) <dog> will investors still invest?
00:13:54 (34458) <ermintrude> fuck it, go for 100000%
00:13:59 (34863) <dog> will you invest if 50% until debt is repaid
00:14:00 (9006) <BigBitz> soog all my coins are reinvsted.
00:14:13 (34863) <dog> bigbitz good luck you will win profit
00:14:14 (34863) <dog> i suggest betting
00:14:17 (13856) <dicER> i'll invest again when all issues are solved
00:14:18 (34863) <dog> bet all yoru coins in 5%
00:14:26 (34863) <dog> issue already resolved
00:14:30 (34863) <dog> why wait
00:14:35 (34863) <dog> catch profit. big whale incoming
00:14:36 (34458) <ermintrude> house is just -503, after doog's donation
00:14:41 (10091) <KuraHoshi> if invest brings profit,25% is OK
00:14:47 (10091) <KuraHoshi> but now lol
00:14:49 (34863) <dog> what if invest loses money
00:14:52 (34863) <dog> and variance isnt enough
00:14:59 (34863) <dog> an someone send me 1 satoshi to try and play
00:15:07 (1) <dooglus> maybe whale's deposit won't confirm, and that's why hot wallet appears empty
00:15:08 (4664) <trekkie> I think doog's only mistake was manually sending coins directly to celeste...putting them in the hot wallet and then alerting celeste would have avoided the issue
00:15:10 (34863) <dog> I know i can get 10, 000 x payout and then give you back 50 satoshis. 50 x roi
00:15:19 (34863) <dog> trekkie no
00:15:21 (34863) <dog> if hot pocket had 1300 coins
00:15:24 (34863) <dog> hacker would steal
00:15:31 (34863) <dog> hacker do not take hot pocket, hacker get server seed
00:15:37 (34458) <ermintrude> dog, really ?
00:15:38 (34863) <dog> hacker leech funds. hacker steal large funds
00:15:39 (20153) <unknown> trekkie agreed
00:15:43 (34458) <ermintrude> so the server has been compromised for sure ?
00:15:46 (34863) <dog> no
00:15:48 (34458) <ermintrude> now that is FUD, dog
00:15:48 (4664) <trekkie> no!
00:15:51 (4664) <trekkie> geez
00:15:57 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, no
00:15:59 (34458) <ermintrude> putting 1300 into hot wallet doesn't mean instant hack
00:16:00 (34863) <dog> but.. it would be a shame if it was
00:16:03 (4536) <angelina> putting 1300 in hot wallet doesn't seem like a good idea
00:16:05 (34863) <dog> how is express going ;)
00:16:06 (4664) <trekkie> the 1300 would have only been there for a few minutes
00:16:11 (34863) <dog> and redis is pretty fast, uh? ;)
00:16:12 (34458) <ermintrude> exactly
00:16:16 (4536) <angelina> and what if it is alreaady compromised, trekkie?
00:16:17 (4664) <trekkie> since celeste was waiting to withdraw them
00:16:19 (20153) <unknown> angelina for a single withdraw it does
00:16:22 (10091) <KuraHoshi> lol 1300 really not good
00:16:24 (34863) <dog> good thing you disabled password auth, too bad i couldn't brute force
00:16:27 (4536) <angelina> just someone waiting for it to get filled
00:16:29 (10091) <KuraHoshi> too dangerous
00:16:33 (34458) <ermintrude> if the server was compromised, then it is irrelevant how much was in the hot wallet guys
00:16:34 (34863) <dog> but you have an outdated openssl versio ;)
00:16:37 (34458) <ermintrude> get smarter please
00:16:43 (34863) <dog> do a nmap
00:16:45 (34863) <dog> you'll see
00:16:48 (34863) <dog> and dooglus should fix
00:16:50 (34863) <dog> ;)
00:17:00 (34458) <ermintrude> nmap would only show 443 open and 22 filtered dog
00:17:04 (34458) <ermintrude> now stop being retard please
00:17:09 (34863) <dog> no it wouldnt
00:17:10 (13856) <dicER> oh no not the 1337 nmap hax0rs again
00:17:16 (34458) <ermintrude> yes, it would
00:17:22 (4664) <trekkie> dog just wants to spread FUD to increase his invest % ;-)
00:17:28 (34863) <dog> what is fud
00:17:32 (34863) <dog> is it food like dog?
00:17:34 (10091) <KuraHoshi> but I think 500 is OK,just 2% of site bankroll
00:17:35 (4664) <trekkie> fear, uncertainty, doubt
00:17:43 (34863) <dog> oh i am very doubtful that you are been honest here.
00:17:46 (4664) <trekkie> dog FUD, i like that LOL
00:17:51 (10091) <KuraHoshi> lol
00:17:55 (34458) <ermintrude> nmap shows 80 and 443 open, dog
00:17:55 (14729) <abby> Withdraw Bitcoins Bitcoin Address Amountwithdraw Withdrawal successful. Sent 0.22204417 to [1oUAJe8T]. Transaction ID: [d423d302].
00:17:57 (34458) <ermintrude> now can you shut up ?
00:17:59 (2) <Deb> heh trek
00:18:04 (13856) <dicER> it's even more funny if you're german
00:18:07 (14729) <abby> transaction not fouind
00:18:33 (4664) <trekkie> abby, it takes some time to show up
00:18:34 (14729) <abby> did wiothdrawl, not in my JD account, not in my wallet
00:18:41 (14729) <abby> it never took time before
00:18:59 (34863) <dog> abby server time out
00:19:01 (34458) <ermintrude> dog, only port 80 and 443 open, what were your flags ?
00:19:01 (4664) <trekkie> i know...mine did today though, but it did show up
00:19:03 (34659) <flory> I deposit to this "flory" account, 120 BTC [1AbYX7KL] , it's doog's call, whether take it as a "donation", or let me play for possible "win", but don't, don't call it a "re"fund...
00:19:05 (34863) <dog> ask dooglus
00:19:16 (34863) <dog> flory wtf
00:19:18 (34863) <dog> did you get scammed
00:19:20 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, run away from this place
00:19:34 (4664) <trekkie> flory, I see no problem at all in him crediting your other account to help pay your debt
00:19:49 (34659) <flory> it's dog's fault... (however, he chose to take responsibility), it's the thief's shame, but I'm not "the thief", and no further explanation.
00:20:01 (34458) <ermintrude> it is flory
00:20:08 (34458) <ermintrude> but now you should seriously consider another place for gambling
00:20:10 (34458) <ermintrude> you are marked here
00:20:14 (20153) <unknown> flory what account did u deposit the 120, celeste or flory
00:20:16 (34863) <dog> florly you are
00:20:18 (34863) <dog> you are scammer
00:25:02 (5884) <no whammies> yeah, same :(
00:25:09 (34906) <randomize> DOOGLUS CHANGED COMMISSION TO 50%
00:25:10 (34906) <randomize> wtf
00:25:12 (34906) <randomize> no warning
00:25:14 (13856) <dicER> now i really want to withdraw
00:25:25 (13856) <dicER> please fill the hotwallet asap
00:25:30 (34906) <randomize> dude i need to deploy ddos
00:25:34 (34906) <randomize> that will panic epople even mroe
00:25:46 (34458) <ermintrude> the site has been ddosed already
00:25:47 (5884) <no whammies> randomize, what about this, "The site currently charges a 5% commission on net investment profits to cover expenses such as advertising, server hosting, etc. The commission rate is subject to change. Notice will be given in this paragraph 7 clear days befo
00:25:47 (34458) <ermintrude> many times
00:25:48 (34906) <randomize> good idea
00:25:55 (34906) <randomize> no whammies: what
00:25:56 (34906) <randomize> i read 50%
00:26:01 (34906) <randomize> you lie
00:26:04 (5884) <no whammies> on the invest tab?
00:26:06 (34906) <randomize> .seen dooglus
00:26:08 (5884) <no whammies> i see 5%
00:26:12 (34906) <randomize> oh
00:26:15 (34906) <randomize> 5% it is
00:26:20 (34906) <randomize> i assume dooglus has changed it
00:26:23 (417) <sbbAddz> hi everyone
00:26:23 (14729) <abby> trekkie how long did you have to wait
00:26:26 (34906) <randomize> good on dooglus for not changing
00:26:29 (34906) <randomize> best place t obuy a botnet
00:26:34 (34906) <randomize> for ddos websockets
00:26:44 (34906) <randomize> ssbaddz house is down -521 btc PLEASE MAKE IT STO
00:26:45 (34458) <ermintrude> randomize, if you don't then you can't do it
00:26:46 (13856) <dicER> ok hot wallet is full, withdrawel worked
00:26:55 (34906) <randomize> o kdicer
00:26:59 (34906) <randomize> i wanted you to pull out all
00:27:01 (14729) <abby> my withdrawl didnt
00:27:07 (34906) <randomize> aby withdraw again
00:27:10 (14729) <abby> and its tiny
00:27:12 (34906) <randomize> dicer took all coins out from hot pocket
00:27:17 (34906) <randomize> dooglus run out of funds to hot pocket
00:27:19 (14729) <abby> i cant, my jd is now empty
00:27:24 (14729) <abby> Withdraw Bitcoins Bitcoin Address Amountwithdraw Withdrawal successful. Sent 0.22204417 to [1oUAJe8T]. Transaction ID: [d423d302].
00:27:34 (14729) <abby> took from my JD, never went to my wallet
00:27:35 (2) <Deb> doog will look into it abby
00:27:44 (34906) <randomize> doolgus is waiting for deposits to do withdrwaals
00:27:49 (34906) <randomize> dooglus lost private key to cold storage
00:27:54 (34906) <randomize> you see why cold storage has no in or out for 4 days
00:28:00 (5884) <no whammies> randomize, chill
00:28:03 (5884) <no whammies> everything is okay
00:28:09 (10091) <KuraHoshi> lol withdraw succeed
00:28:16 (34906) <randomize> withdraw succed no coins
00:28:23 (14729) <abby> i like how all wiothdrawls worjk except my bitchange
00:28:24 (8475) <alabaster> I just withdrew some successfully
00:28:30 (34906) <randomize> abby your coins were lost
00:28:34 (34906) <randomize> thank you
00:28:34 (14729) <abby> obviously
00:28:38 (34906) <randomize> only 20.9999 btc
00:28:45 (10091) <KuraHoshi> I withdraw 5BTC and recieved
00:28:51 (8588) <melissa> randomize stop trolling
00:28:58 (14729) <abby> i just got mine
00:28:59 (14729) <abby> thanks
00:29:10 (1) <dooglus> abby: it's confirmed already
00:29:16 (14729) <abby> stfu random.... might be a small amount, but its all i have
00:29:17 (14729) <abby> fag
00:29:22 (14729) <abby> ty doog
00:29:28 (417) <sbbAddz> hey doog.. sorry about that mixup man.. just read it
00:29:37 (1) <dooglus> yeah, sucks to be me, eh?
00:29:46 (417) <sbbAddz> were you really tired?
00:29:53 (1) <dooglus> I was stressed
00:29:54 (9006) <BigBitz> doog: this is brutal.
00:29:58 (9006) <BigBitz> Totally brutal.
00:30:03 (2) <Deb> bbiab
00:30:13 (417) <sbbAddz> I guess next time - remove from account... THEN withdraw
00:30:19 (1959) <bobbarker> how badly did that 1300 btc loss hurt you doog?
00:30:19 (10091) <KuraHoshi> oh abby how many BTC you haven't recieved?
00:30:23 (8955) <gogoSomething> and use a checklist
00:30:26 (1) <dooglus> I got 2.005 back in donations though, so it's not all bad :)
00:30:27 (14729) <abby> i got it
00:30:28 (5884) <no whammies> everyone makes mistakes
00:30:32 (10091) <KuraHoshi> ohoh cool
00:30:35 (14729) <abby> it just took a little bit
00:30:36 (1) <dooglus> bob: pretty badly
00:30:51 (5884) <no whammies> doog, i intend to stay the course and stay invested, and will donate out of future profits
00:31:05 (1313) <PalePhoenix> wow, I just 2 hours catching up on everything. feel terrible for you dooglus. I was divested overnight because I was afraid celeste would come back, but I'm sending 5 BTC to the donation address.
00:31:06 (5884) <no whammies> i've lost a few coins to the site myself :)
00:31:06 (2454) <cowbay> i'll donate 2
00:31:30 (1959) <bobbarker> i sympathize doog
00:31:30 (1313) <PalePhoenix> can't believe it... what a crazy ass weekend
00:31:42 (1959) <bobbarker> if i had anything to donate, i would
00:31:46 (13856) <dicER> what a stupid question.. like if loosing $126000 won't hurt
00:31:53 (1) <dooglus> thanks pale
00:31:55 (10091) <KuraHoshi> I don't afraid of celeste,I invest all!Just fight!
00:31:59 (1959) <bobbarker> dicer, he could have 10k coins
00:32:12 (1959) <bobbarker> or he could have 2k
00:32:12 (2) <Deb> ty pp
00:32:15 (1959) <bobbarker> it makes a big diff
00:32:20 (10091) <KuraHoshi> ok... also leave 2BTC to gamble XD
00:32:32 (13856) <dicER> yes but it would still hurt
00:32:48 (1959) <bobbarker> which is why i asked how badly it hurt not "did it hurt"
00:32:51 (1) <dooglus> bob: it was about half my coins
00:32:51 (1959) <bobbarker> jesus fuck reading
00:33:18 (2090) <Jeweller> It really sucks, and I'm sure you hadn't anticipated this kind of problem
00:33:23 (2454) <cowbay> got it?
00:33:23 (13951) <alana> doog: appreciate all you did
00:33:41 (1) <dooglus> thanks pale
00:33:58 (1) <dooglus> or cowbay. or whoever sent 2 btc :)
00:33:58 (8955) <gogoSomething> perhaps for very large withdrawals next time you get Deb or a secondary person to confirm steps in the withdrawal
00:34:04 (2090) <Jeweller> 5% commission could make it back eventually...
00:34:17 (1) <dooglus> gogo: I won't make the same mistake again...
00:34:18 (2090) <Jeweller> gogo: no, there needs to be no humans involved
00:34:24 (2090) <Jeweller> humans make mistakes, computers don't....
00:34:39 (13951) <alana> to err is human, to really fuck things up you need a computer
00:34:45 (4664) <trekkie> lol
00:34:45 (13856) <dicER> just delete the private keys.. problem solved
00:34:53 (2090) <Jeweller> doog should just bring a usb stick to whatever the cold wallet is on
00:34:57 (20153) <unknown> what dicer
00:35:00 (10091) <KuraHoshi> anytime big whale comes,the BTC/USD exchange rate goes up,so I hope celeste comes back playing lol
00:35:01 (2090) <Jeweller> sign the transaction to the hot wallet, and done.
00:35:09 (1313) <PalePhoenix> welcome, remember all the shit that happens today will just be stories you'll tell your grandkids. Just Dice will prevail!
00:35:16 (2454) <cowbay> i'm not pale
00:35:35 (34659) <flory> doog, say a word, you do take that 120BTC as donation or what?
00:36:09 (1) <dooglus> flory: your account had 1300 in it that wasn't yours. you have repaid 120 of it
00:36:17 (34458) <ermintrude> he is scamming you back, flory
00:36:26 (4664) <trekkie> (rolls eyes)
00:36:26 (1) <dooglus> it's not a scam. it's a repayment
00:36:37 (34458) <ermintrude> right, like in mafia
00:36:45 (2281) <satoshi's homie> this guy is getting mad he lost 120 after robbing doog
00:36:46 (2706) <spacejelly> ok, just got home and as I was walking home thought of a solution to stop this happening again. may or may not work though!
00:36:47 (2281) <satoshi's homie> thats great
00:36:51 (14977) <new name> how do you know that he knew that you cashed him out 1300
00:37:02 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, your next 3 babies belong to doog
00:37:07 (1) <dooglus> Jeweller: I use a memory stick and a cold wallet. I moved the funds to my online machine and paid from there. the issue was that I forgot to debit the JD account
00:37:25 (2281) <satoshi's homie> just take them and throw them in the ocean or dumpster he doesnt deserve to have offspring
00:37:32 (2706) <spacejelly> the cold wallet has funds in, I take it the server should know how much funds are in the cold wallet due to the amount of investment, etc.
00:37:50 (1959) <bobbarker> that would defeat the purpose of having a cold wallet
00:37:51 (2090) <Jeweller> doog: I understand how it happened; I'm saying that the cold wallet should only have one address it receives from and sends to: the hot wallet
00:37:53 (9) <uvwvj> 12:36:09 (1) <dooglus> flory: your account had 1300 in it that wasn't yours. you have repaid 120 of it - GOOD JOB DOOG
00:38:06 (2090) <Jeweller> and from the hot wallet, all transactions are handled by the server code
00:38:12 (34458) <ermintrude> also claim his next baby as yours, doog
00:38:14 (1) <dooglus> spacejelly: kind of. I use my online computer as a buffer for funds that aren't on the live site or the cold wallet - something in between
00:38:17 (13856) <dicER> that's almost 10%
00:38:19 (20153) <unknown> Jeweller, agreed. let the process of the site and hot wallet do input output from clients
00:38:21 (2706) <spacejelly> so how difficult would it be to run a script that queries the cold wallet on blockchain or wherever, and if that doesn't match what the server says then site panic
00:38:22 (34659) <flory> dooglus, it's not "repay", "refund", you know the mistake is yours, not mine. that's a donation.
00:38:41 (13951) <alana> good job doog
00:38:47 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, when your first baby is born, you have 30 minutes to give it to doog
00:38:52 (1601) <willphase> flory you should put in the whole 1180 then you'd be able to gamble again
00:38:54 (20153) <unknown> flory what address did u send it too? celeste or flory?
00:38:55 (34458) <ermintrude> he has claimed it already
00:38:59 (1) <dooglus> I made a mistake leaving funds in your account. you were wrong to gamble with the funds that you knew weren't yours.
00:39:13 (9006) <BigBitz> flory you gambled funds you didn't own.
00:39:13 (34458) <ermintrude> doog, learn about transactions process
00:39:14 (2454) <cowbay> it sucks but the mistake is doog's
00:39:16 (34659) <flory> it's not me.
00:39:17 (34458) <ermintrude> you either do it completely
00:39:19 (34458) <ermintrude> or you don't
00:39:19 (2706) <spacejelly> run that script every minute, or five minutes or however long is necesarry. that way if the values don't match just halt all site activity until the problem is resolved.
00:39:22 (2281) <satoshi's homie> LOL
00:39:25 (2281) <satoshi's homie> flory you are a moron
00:39:26 (34659) <flory> told you already.
00:39:32 (9) <uvwvj> And DOOG if he wants to gamble again then the other 1180 beeds repaid
00:39:32 (2281) <satoshi's homie> who do you expect to believe that
00:39:36 (34659) <flory> however, I'm done with this.
00:39:42 (2281) <satoshi's homie> ya if your not gonna pay it back
00:39:48 (2281) <satoshi's homie> go spend it and then kill yourself after
00:39:50 (2281) <satoshi's homie> your useless
00:39:54 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, good call
00:40:00 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, you are fucked here
00:40:04 (14977) <new name> wait flory
00:40:07 (14977) <new name> you should keep playing
00:40:11 (14977) <new name> clean house
00:40:15 (1601) <willphase> flory you should pay it back then you will be able to keep playing
00:40:18 (34458) <ermintrude> so doog can scam him ?
00:40:22 (1601) <willphase> flory, you'll still be up overall for the week
00:40:32 (1959) <bobbarker> you guys are all retarded
00:40:33 (34458) <ermintrude> last time he was playing the server was shutdown, bets were frozen
00:40:35 (14977) <new name> or dont pay it back.. and keep playing
00:40:39 (1959) <bobbarker> why would you want to scare off the whale
00:40:44 (34659) <flory> I'm up overall 3.5K.
00:40:51 (1959) <bobbarker> best way doog is going to get paid back is by him losing
00:40:54 (4664) <trekkie> will, his account balance is correct...how is that a scam?
00:40:59 (4664) <trekkie> sorry, erm
00:41:06 (14977) <new name> yea but doog doesnt get paid back like that bobbarker
00:41:08 (14977) <new name> everyone gets paid
00:41:10 (14977) <new name> not just doog
00:41:11 (34458) <ermintrude> trekkie, it is not correct
00:41:19 (4664) <trekkie> it's -1180, that is correct
00:41:20 (1959) <bobbarker> site success = doog success
00:41:22 (13856) <dicER> ya don't let him play.. he stole 1300 and won ~3000 O.o
00:41:26 (34458) <ermintrude> trekkie, doog should really about transactions. you either do the thing completely, or you don't do any of it
00:41:38 (34458) <ermintrude> freeze the account
00:41:42 (34458) <ermintrude> transfer, check if it completes
00:41:45 (34458) <ermintrude> remove balance
00:41:46 (34458) <ermintrude> unfreeze
00:42:01 (5884) <no whammies> dooglus, what's the donation address?
00:42:02 (1959) <bobbarker> hey flory want to turn some of ur BTC into USD?
00:42:10 (34659) <flory> told doog this game is flawed, can proved to him, but he just couldn't get it. and now, he made a mistake, a thief "steal" money that he couldn't withdraw....
00:42:10 (4664) <trekkie> look, he knows it completed, and he subtracted 1300
00:42:12 (9) <uvwvj> he will pay back, because as a gambler he wont be able to take it, SD is slow, Primedice is not that great, and Coinroll does not have large limits - he will be back
00:42:13 (34458) <ermintrude> not flory's fault guys
00:42:16 (1601) <willphase> flory, if you're up then how about paying the 1180 and then it'll be all over with, and you'll be able to keep playing, and become a hero in bitcoin folklore
00:42:17 (1) <dooglus> what: [17r66d9S]
00:42:20 (1313) <PalePhoenix> flory, your story doesn't make sense. it's completely implausible. have you no honor, sir?
00:42:22 (34659) <flory> and doog is calling me "the thief".
00:42:22 (20153) <unknown> [17r66d9S]
00:42:26 (4664) <trekkie> erm, you are just wrong...stop being a jerk
00:42:28 (1) <dooglus> wham* [17r66d9S] http://blockchain.info/address/17r66d9Sis99eZWtsZpEuK1rtpZCgr2sDU
00:42:44 (5884) <no whammies> thx
00:42:46 (1) <dooglus> flory: it's not theft. it was my mistake
00:42:53 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, now you are being the retard, what is the flaw you found ?
00:42:58 (34458) <ermintrude> having a big bankroll is not a flaw
00:43:04 (1) <dooglus> flory: but I would appreciate having the coins back that I accidentally left in your account
00:43:07 (20153) <unknown> flory, did you know the amount was withdrawn when you played with the account???
00:43:19 (1959) <bobbarker> he says it wasnt him unknown
00:43:28 (20153) <unknown> oh
00:43:32 (34458) <ermintrude> since we can't prove whether it was him or not
00:43:35 (34458) <ermintrude> you cannot scam him, doog
00:43:37 (2281) <satoshi's homie> it was theft as soon as he claimed his fake story
00:43:38 (4664) <trekkie> ...which is likely a lie, since the betting pattern was exactly the same
00:43:38 (1959) <bobbarker> he says he left his laptop open at a cafe and someone else played with the balance
00:43:41 (1601) <willphase> flory you've put doog out of pocket here because of a mistake, I think it would be an awesome gesture if you paid the btc back, especially as you'll come out up overall anyway
00:43:44 (34659) <flory> dooglus: can't you just get it? I didn't play with the money in that account.
00:43:49 (2281) <satoshi's homie> ya someone got his laptop and his 2FA code
00:43:49 (5884) <no whammies> its not much compared to the loss, but i chipped ~.5
00:43:50 (2281) <satoshi's homie> yep
00:43:51 (2466) <Canna> Chat is not the appropriate forum for this...Between Doog and Flory...every other opinion is meaningless and only muddies the issue
00:44:00 (105) <Scrat> flory: you're full of shit
00:44:03 (4664) <trekkie> flory, you have no proof of that
00:44:06 (34458) <ermintrude> it is irrelevant whether he is telling lie or truth
00:44:11 (34458) <ermintrude> can any of you prove anything ?
00:44:12 (2281) <satoshi's homie> erm
00:44:12 (1601) <willphase> flory it sounds like a number of mistakes were made here, but it could all be made right if you just paid the 1180
00:44:13 (2281) <satoshi's homie> are yo udumb
00:44:16 (2090) <Jeweller> yeah, it doesn't matter
00:44:16 (2281) <satoshi's homie> its irreleavent
00:44:18 (2281) <satoshi's homie> someone is out 1300
00:44:20 (34659) <flory> I'm not a gambler, I told you from the very beginning that I won for proving your game is flawed.
00:44:27 (2090) <Jeweller> flory needs to GET something if he does pay it back
00:44:29 (13856) <dicER> yeah he left his laptop on the table and spiderman cracked his login, sold it to batman and joker just lost everything.. don't blame flory
00:44:30 (1313) <PalePhoenix> flory, yesterday you said you were wrong about the flaw and now you say there was. If you aren't going to pay back the money, at least you can stop spreading uncertainty and let dooglus move on.
00:44:33 (2090) <Jeweller> 0.5% edge or something
00:44:35 (1601) <willphase> flory if we admit the game is flawed will you pay the 1180 back? :)
00:44:38 (34659) <flory> you kept telling me that's a gambler's fallacy, and I kept winning.
00:44:39 (2090) <Jeweller> some kind of comp
00:44:58 (1601) <willphase> also flory if you pay it back then you can carry on playing and probably win more, if the game is flawed
00:44:58 (1313) <PalePhoenix> wow, I suck at typing when hung over
00:45:01 (34659) <flory> I didn't play the 1300, why should I pay back? I just don't get it.
00:45:01 (2090) <Jeweller> 0.5% edge with him though is really dangerous...
00:45:13 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, you will do better moving to other place
00:45:15 (4664) <trekkie> flory, you played a Martingale variation, which works...until it doesn't
00:45:17 (1959) <bobbarker> so what is your strategy flory
00:45:19 (1601) <willphase> flory well it was your mistake you left the machine unlocked?
00:45:19 (34458) <ermintrude> people don't want you to play here
00:45:21 (1959) <bobbarker> that proves the site is flawed
00:45:23 (31229) <alana> flory your test bets have been driving me insane. lol do they really work?
00:45:34 (1313) <PalePhoenix> because the bets were just like yours, so unless you have two personalities, it was you
00:45:36 (2466) <Canna> J-D is not your credit card where you can claim unauthorized access
00:45:48 (34458) <ermintrude> Pale, he could have a bot that bets automatically ?
00:45:48 (9) <uvwvj> <flory> I'm not a gambler, I told you from the very beginning that I won for proving your game is flawed - so a guy who claims the site is flawed is stupid enough to leave laptop laying around with a blockchian of 10k coins, t
00:45:49 (2090) <Jeweller> look, there are two people who to some extent share blame here
00:45:54 (34659) <flory> willphase, you call not locking one's computer a mistake?
00:46:03 (2090) <Jeweller> doog screwed up the withdrawal
00:46:03 (2458) <usagi> Yes
00:46:07 (1601) <willphase> flory well if I had that many bitcoins on my machine I'd probably lock it :)
00:46:14 (1313) <PalePhoenix> oh right 34458, so the guy steals him laptop and then starts up his gambling bot lol
00:46:18 (2090) <Jeweller> and flory went and kept playing, or had his laptop... stolen.
00:46:20 (34458) <ermintrude> yes Pale
00:46:23 (34659) <flory> I have too many coins left in my computer.
00:46:25 (34458) <ermintrude> you can't prove anything, it turns out
00:46:27 (1313) <PalePhoenix> and he doesn't have a bot
00:46:36 (1601) <willphase> flory it sounds like people made a number of mistakes here, but given that it's doog (a good guy!) who is out of pocket, I think you could donate him some more
00:46:41 (1313) <PalePhoenix> I watched him play for 48 hours
00:46:48 (34659) <flory> but not that laptop.
00:46:48 (1601) <willphase> flory, especially as you're still up from this week
00:46:54 (34458) <ermintrude> 48 hours straight ?
00:46:56 (34458) <ermintrude> looks like a bot then
00:46:57 (2) <Deb> ok, guys, i'm going to encourage doog to take a break from the chat, and i have to run out for a bit, so if you need anything, please email the support mail on the faq
00:47:02 (31229) <alana> PalePhoenix do u reckon his system works
00:47:02 (4664) <trekkie> how about half?
00:47:08 (2) <Deb> i'm not sure he's going to take my advice, but just in case ;)
00:47:14 (2466) <Canna> later Deb...try to enjoy your offline time today
00:47:23 (2) <Deb> thanks canna, very much
00:47:24 (1313) <PalePhoenix> no "system" works, he was lucky
00:47:29 (4664) <trekkie> bingo
00:47:33 (1601) <willphase> it just seems a real pity for doog who is a cool guy to end up losing out through these mistakes... and when you're up on the site overall
00:47:41 (1583) <Merathe> Celeste came back and lost another five hundred?
00:47:42 (1601) <willphase> I think it would be a cool gesture for you to donate the 1180 back to him
00:47:49 (34458) <ermintrude> people, do you remember the scam from yesterday where a guy was selling something to guess the outcomes ?
00:47:51 (34659) <flory> doog, you're a good guy, but this time you think of me wrong. think twice, please.
00:47:56 (34458) <ermintrude> 5 free trials to hero members, anyone have the thread ?
00:47:57 (1313) <PalePhoenix> good idea deb, please leave someone with the ban hammer... it's ridiculous in here lol
00:48:10 (2) <Deb> agreed, pp
00:48:11 (1601) <willphase> flory I think doog has gone afk now, it's really stressing him out :(
00:48:19 (34659) <flory> I'm done here, don't have any appetite chat with these stupid losers.
00:48:23 (9006) <BigBitz> It's a bit crazy.
00:48:24 (9) <uvwvj> i want banhammer
00:48:34 (14977) <new name> give banhammer to bitbitz
00:48:35 (31229) <alana> i think if doog gave the 120 back as it was deposited into a different account, and then if flory donated some, both guys keep their reputation
00:48:37 (14977) <new name> big*
00:48:39 (13856) <dicER> STOP! Hammertime!
00:48:40 (9006) <BigBitz> flory: I am disappointed after the money you won. doog made the mistake, of course.
00:48:40 (1313) <PalePhoenix> wow, true colors there. oh well, karma will get ya
00:48:46 (1601) <willphase> flory well I hope you see that there's real people who have lost out here :( and it woudl be very gracious for you to give some of it to doog
00:48:47 (2458) <usagi> Your story is disingenuous.
00:48:49 (34458) <ermintrude> flory didn't donate anything
00:48:50 (34659) <flory> the game is flawed, and I can win endlessly, and have proven that.
00:48:56 (2281) <satoshi's homie> flory you have no life kid
00:49:01 (2281) <satoshi's homie> you love the troll so dont kid yourself
00:49:04 (4664) <trekkie> ***flory is banned for 3600 seconds by SimplyFun
00:49:05 (9006) <BigBitz> flory: If it was flawed how did you lose the 1300BTC this morning?
00:49:12 (1313) <PalePhoenix> flory yesterday you said it wasn't flawed
00:49:16 (2466) <Canna> flory if that were true...putting in 1180 to win it back would go a long way towards proof of your claims
00:49:16 (34458) <ermintrude> it wasn't him Big :)
00:49:21 (1601) <willphase> flory then you can walk away still up from the week, and also feeling great that you've made doog less stressed! :)
00:49:22 (9006) <BigBitz> It can't be flawed. It's provable.
00:49:33 (8955) <gogoSomething> you haven't proven you can win endlessly, you're currently not playing
00:49:34 (4664) <trekkie> bb, yup
00:49:37 (8955) <gogoSomething> your wins have ended
00:49:37 (9006) <BigBitz> flory: explain the flaw, please.
00:49:39 (34458) <ermintrude> flory, just move to another site. you are gonna get fucked here
00:49:39 (34659) <flory> doog, and I've donate 120BTC for your loss. remember that.
00:49:41 (4664) <trekkie> if it's flawed, then SHA-256 is flawed
00:49:44 (9006) <BigBitz> I'd be very interested.
00:49:52 (34659) <flory> not my mistake, just was concerned about you.
00:50:00 (1601) <willphase> flory considering the amount you won from here I think a larger donation would be cool. I think he's very stressed about the whole thing!
00:50:00 (9006) <BigBitz> I know you said you were a math man so I'm sure you can explain.
00:50:01 (14977) <new name> go flory
00:50:08 (14977) <new name> i am cheering for you
00:50:12 (2281) <satoshi's homie> new name
00:50:16 (1601) <willphase> flory would become a hero :)
00:50:23 (2281) <satoshi's homie> why dont you brown nose elsewhere
00:50:29 (1583) <Merathe> Oh my god 1300 out of pocket?
00:50:30 (2281) <satoshi's homie> or instead just suck his dick for coins
00:50:31 (20153) <unknown> why would someone into mathematics think test bets make a difference, all bets are independent
00:50:36 (4664) <trekkie> yes Merathe
00:50:37 (1583) <Merathe> That whale is a dick
00:50:42 (9006) <BigBitz> unknown: Exactly.
00:50:44 (14977) <new name> i didnt ask any one for coins satoshi's homie
00:50:52 (14977) <new name> nor will i
00:50:53 (2281) <satoshi's homie> im sure its not an intention
00:51:10 (1583) <Merathe> Celeste deserves to lose every cent he made, he should be been grateful for this site but he tried to fuck it over
00:51:11 (1959) <bobbarker> i alt tabbed
00:51:18 (1959) <bobbarker> did the guy say what his strategy is?
00:51:28 (13856) <dicER> actually they are not.. the lucky number is based on a incremental nonce.. so with "test bets" you could skip the lucky numbers you don't want to play
00:51:30 (34458) <ermintrude> celeste really doesn't deserve losing
00:51:31 (1601) <willphase> ignore the people insulting you flory... I think an appeal to your better side will work :) I see you won a lot here this week but dooglus is hugely out of pocket because of a few mistakes
00:51:33 (9006) <BigBitz> bob: he claims the game is flawed and he can exploit it.
00:51:38 (4664) <trekkie> no, he's full of shit
00:51:45 (4677) <bananas> was there more than 1 mistake?
00:51:49 (34458) <ermintrude> he just has a big bankroll
00:51:52 (34458) <ermintrude> and won half of it
00:51:59 (1313) <PalePhoenix> yesterday he said it wasn't flawed and that he was wrong
00:52:00 (20153) <unknown> flory you ignore this point everytime, how can you be into mathematics and still think test bets work. You said the rng is not flawed so that means all rolls are independent and your testing pointless.
00:52:00 (4664) <trekkie> bananas: he claims it wasn't him who lost the 1300
00:52:02 (1601) <willphase> and I think you can walk away with a ton of profit from this week, and make it right for doog... and the fact that you made a ton of profit means your system works :)
00:52:13 (9006) <BigBitz> For someone with a system it's interesting that he lost 1300BTC in one sitting, no? :)
00:52:22 (4664) <trekkie> no, that wasn't him, don't you know?
00:52:25 (1601) <willphase> big: he says that wasn't him
00:52:27 (34458) <ermintrude> it wasn't him Big, as he says
00:52:29 (13856) <dicER> @unknown: <dicER> actually they are not.. the lucky number is based on a incremental nonce.. so with "test bets" you could skip the lucky numbers you don't want to play
00:52:31 (9006) <BigBitz> will: of course it was him.
00:52:32 (1583) <Merathe> is flory celeste then?
00:52:32 (9006) <BigBitz> I was here.
00:52:33 (4677) <bananas> ok i just got on. who lost 1300 when?!
00:52:36 (9006) <BigBitz> I watched his bets.
00:52:41 (9006) <BigBitz> they were of the same nature.
00:52:45 (14977) <new name> BIGBITZ AND FLORY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE
00:52:47 (9006) <BigBitz> and the same "style" or "system"
00:52:59 (1583) <Merathe> How much did flory win?
00:52:59 (9006) <BigBitz> newname: I wish I had half this mans wealth.
00:53:10 (14977) <new name> <3 bitbitz
00:53:13 (9006) <BigBitz> Meathe: I think close to 4700BTC.
00:53:13 (14977) <new name> bigbitz
00:53:16 (1583) <Merathe> Is flory celeste then?
00:53:20 (4664) <trekkie> Celeste/flory won a bunch, then withdrew 1300, which doog accidentally left in his account. He then lost it.
00:53:20 (34458) <ermintrude> people, do you remember that scam thread where a guy was selling a way to guess the outcomes ? 5 trials to hero members
00:53:22 (748) <lordsonkit> http://chromaticcreative.net/bitcoin/pcalc/jd.php <-- our site without whale our site with whale ---> http://chromaticcreative.net/bitcoin/pcalc/jd.php?t=1373881308050
00:53:23 (34458) <ermintrude> where is the thread ?
00:53:33 (4677) <bananas> if i've read it correctly on btcforum, doog is covering the inadvertent 'glitch'
00:53:43 (4664) <trekkie> yes, out of his pocket
00:53:44 (1313) <PalePhoenix> yes bananas, he is
00:53:47 (4664) <trekkie> only $126K
00:53:47 (5884) <no whammies> deb needs to make some cake
00:54:07 (2) <Deb> i dunno if cake is enough
00:54:08 (4677) <bananas> doog needs a beer
00:54:13 (9006) <BigBitz> I'm off. I'll be back on later. The mistake was dooglus - he recgonised this. However flory should not have played the coins.
00:54:16 (1) <dooglus> I'm covering it. flory paid back 120 BTC and around 9.5 BTC in donations have arrived too
00:54:17 (2) <Deb> i'm thinking crack, heroin, something like that ;)
00:54:22 (748) <lordsonkit> * only *
00:54:24 (1) <dooglus> thanks for the donations guys
00:54:25 (9006) <BigBitz> He didn't leave his Google auth device. He didn't leave his laptop in a cafe.
00:54:27 (383) <GeoRW> cake with a beer
00:54:27 (4664) <trekkie> hey, 10% doog
00:54:30 (9006) <BigBitz> It's all nonsense.
00:54:32 (34458) <ermintrude> the 120 BTC were not donations
00:54:38 (4677) <bananas> but doog, no coding after the beer :)
00:54:46 (4664) <trekkie> erm...the 120 was credited to his account
00:54:48 (2454) <cowbay> since we all have skin in the game and doog graciously covered the loss, I say just let flory prove his point and continue to beat 1% house odds
00:54:51 (1583) <Merathe> If anyone was wondering if Doog was trustworthy, this answers it
00:55:03 (4664) <trekkie> 100% agree Merathe
00:55:15 (9006) <BigBitz> Doog/Deb: I've left my coins in. It's not a huge amount but I hope it shows my support.
00:55:17 (1583) <Merathe> So flory thinks he has an unbeatable system?
00:55:20 (4664) <trekkie> doog will likely be under water for quite awhile on this site
00:55:22 (1) <dooglus> Merathe: I think it should! this is "run away with the loot" time if ever there was one
00:55:32 (748) <lordsonkit> i guess we need some small *whale* to help us boost our profit
00:55:35 (34458) <ermintrude> i would like to download rolls please, without getting banned
00:55:36 (2) <Deb> thanks big, i think that there are far more 'good guys' on here, than bad
00:55:45 (9006) <BigBitz> Good luck. I'll be back on later :)
00:55:47 (2) <Deb> but it is still a hit, for doog
00:55:49 (2) <Deb> thanks!
00:55:50 (1583) <Merathe> Yes I agree Doog, and you've proved you won't.
00:55:53 (1313) <PalePhoenix> they come in swarms deb lol
00:56:05 (1) <dooglus> ermintrude: hitting the site 26 million times isn't a reasonable way of getting the rolls
00:56:07 (4664) <trekkie> erm, how do you propose to get 26,000,000+ rolls?
00:56:08 (2) <Deb> yup pp, seem to
00:56:17 (34458) <ermintrude> doog give a reasonable way then please
00:56:28 (34458) <ermintrude> doog i don't want to hit 26 mil either
00:56:34 (4664) <trekkie> I'm pretty sure there's no reason for that
00:56:39 (4664) <trekkie> why do you want them?
00:56:42 (1) <dooglus> ermintrude: I will. I don't know if you've noticed, but I have more pressing issues to deal with at the moment
00:56:48 (2454) <cowbay> vegas does not turn down action and neither should JD; investors who cannot stomach the swings should divest
00:56:48 (34458) <ermintrude> i want them, that is
00:57:08 (1583) <Merathe> So flory thinks the rolls are predictable?
00:57:14 (34458) <ermintrude> it
00:57:31 (4664) <trekkie> make a few thousand 0 bets and log them or something
00:57:31 (2454) <cowbay> if the rolls are predictable then he should continue playing
00:57:37 (1959) <bobbarker> but he didnt say how the game was flawed
00:57:48 (34458) <ermintrude> trekkie, i want all the rolls so far, not the future ones
00:57:55 (1) <dooglus> he told me the flaw is that the max bet is too high. that's not a flaw
00:57:56 (34458) <ermintrude> i just want them, for whatever reason
00:58:10 (1313) <PalePhoenix> he's full of shit about the predictability, I wish I saved his exact words from yesterday when he said he was wrong about it
00:58:15 (4664) <trekkie> look, the method for generating them is published
00:58:18 (1583) <Merathe> That's not a flaw in the game, that's a flaw in the bankroll if anything
00:58:29 (34458) <ermintrude> trekkie i know that.. i just want the rolls damn it
00:58:31 (34458) <ermintrude> can't you read ?
00:58:35 (4664) <trekkie> for what?
00:58:39 (4677) <bananas> doog can you set up a mirror site with API that is virtual that we could test?
00:58:44 (34458) <ermintrude> because i fucking want damn it
00:58:46 (34458) <ermintrude> they are public
00:59:00 (1583) <Merathe> guys, don't ask Doog to do anything just yet
00:59:00 (2) <Deb> be nice erm
00:59:05 (4664) <trekkie> imo, doog has no responsibility to give them to you
00:59:06 (1583) <Merathe> give him a day off
00:59:11 (4664) <trekkie> he's a nice guy and probably will though
00:59:13 (34458) <ermintrude> deb, trekkie keeps repeating this question
00:59:14 (2) <Deb> thanks merathe
00:59:22 (2) <Deb> doog answered you erm
00:59:24 (13653) <Switch> Sorry to hear what happened dooglus, I came back just to give my condolences
00:59:25 (14252) <777> SWORDFLOWER nice turn
00:59:31 (34458) <ermintrude> yes deb, now make trekkie shut up then ?
00:59:43 (4664) <trekkie> you seem to think you have some right to them
00:59:51 (1583) <Merathe> He will get to your requests in time but right now put yourself in his shoes
00:59:53 (34458) <ermintrude> they are public, i just want them
00:59:54 (2) <Deb> thanks switch
00:59:58 (34458) <ermintrude> i'm not claiming anything
01:00:04 (10991) <kopipe> What happened?
01:00:32 (5884) <no whammies> i'm happy to see folks are still wagering
01:00:39 (2) <Deb> there is info on the forum, pipe
01:00:39 (20153) <unknown> trekkie, calm down, getting the rolls is important for statistical analysis. doog eventually needs a system where we can download all the rolls, today is probably not a good day though
01:00:46 (10991) <kopipe> ok
01:00:48 (5884) <no whammies> i'm staying invested, i'm in this for the long haul
01:00:49 (136) <sqwerty> hi deb. i just sort of heard about things. but i need to read up.
01:00:55 (1583) <Merathe> kopipe : Doog manually withdrew 1300 from celestes account and didn't remove his account balance which he proceeded to lose. Doog covered it all out of pocket, all 1300
01:00:55 (5884) <no whammies> until i make back all the coin i lost gambling!
01:01:00 (2) <Deb> hey sqwert
01:01:11 (136) <sqwerty> im sorry to hear the bad news
01:01:15 (34458) <ermintrude> thanks for being a little more reasonable, unknown guy
01:01:25 (1583) <Merathe> Jesus I can't imagine the internal conflict he had when he noticed that the whale was a dick about it
01:01:48 (2) <Deb> its a tough one merathe, for sure
01:01:51 (13653) <Switch> Greedy mofo.
01:02:03 (2) <Deb> doog wouldn't have kept money found money like that, he'd have given it back
01:02:09 (2) <Deb> but, that said, it was his mistake
01:02:11 (5884) <no whammies> he would have never gotten away with this shit in vegas
01:02:20 (34931) <JustDice> ^^
01:02:27 (34458) <ermintrude> deb, teach doog the basics of a transaction process
01:02:42 (2) <Deb> erm, yer pissin me off
01:02:45 (34458) <ermintrude> either do it completely, or don't do any of it
01:02:46 (2) <Deb> and it takes a lot to piss me off
01:03:00 (20153) <unknown> ermintrude, now your being a dick, stop.
01:03:01 (1583) <Merathe> Seriously erm, do you think now is the time?
01:03:13 (13653) <Switch> Deb, I kinda wished he had won more with the extra 1300. That way he couldn't have cashed those out and the investors would be happy to get back his winnings.
01:03:14 (34458) <ermintrude> Mera, doog took 120 BTC from flory
01:03:33 (13653) <Switch> 120 is a tenth of it
01:03:35 (1583) <Merathe> Erm, what's your point?
01:03:38 (13653) <Switch> he gave back a 10%
01:03:45 (34458) <ermintrude> that he shouldn't take any from flory
01:03:45 (1601) <willphase> flory said that the 120 was a donation because he felt bad for doog losing so much
01:03:50 (2) <Deb> switch,that's true, he couldn't have withdrawn, but investors would have been down more
01:03:56 (2) <Deb> well, for a bit
01:03:58 (13653) <Switch> flory is full of shit
01:04:11 (1583) <Merathe> Celeste was a dick about it, he deserved to do that. Celeste knew what he was doing and he attempted to make up for it
01:04:12 (13653) <Switch> internet is full of liers and this one is complete BS
01:04:18 (383) <GeoRW> I wonder that no one noticed, including me, that it was strange that celeste started betting again after doog made the transaction
01:04:18 (2) <Deb> but yah, that would have been better, for sure
01:04:40 (5803) <kylie> what if doog is celeste-cici-etc
01:04:43 (393) <DeCiB3l> the profit should be way higher given the 1% edge on the 280k wagered
01:04:44 (1583) <Merathe> now you're saying that Doog, who covered a 130k usd hit should take money from the person that stole the money in the first place
01:04:46 (2) <Deb> i think i must have been gone by then
01:04:47 (1601) <willphase> I think flory donating shows that he has a conscience and feels bad for doog (as we all should, he lost a lot of btc!) and I think there's still hope that he might decide to give more
01:04:55 (1601) <willphase> especially as he's up for the week in gambling
01:04:55 (393) <DeCiB3l> Right now the profit is staying steady and the wagered is going wayyy up
01:05:01 (393) <DeCiB3l> That's good and bad for us
01:05:10 (1601) <willphase> but I think flory/celeste is gone now
01:05:15 (34458) <ermintrude> will, he said it WAS NOT a donation
01:05:25 (1313) <PalePhoenix> that's not true erm
01:05:25 (1583) <Merathe> Deb :does doog have enough invested that he can eventually recoup his losses?
01:05:28 (1601) <willphase> all you guys shouting at him scared him away so now we can't even reason with him
01:05:30 (1313) <PalePhoenix> jesus you are a tool
01:05:35 (383) <GeoRW> I think it was like 15 minutes after he/she withdrew the BTC, that the betting started again
01:05:38 (2) <Deb> hope so merathe
01:05:39 (34458) <ermintrude> it is Pale, if you read the full conversation earlier
01:05:40 (1313) <PalePhoenix> he said dooglus could decide
01:05:45 (1313) <PalePhoenix> I did read it
01:05:56 (34458) <ermintrude> you skiped the parts you found convenient then
01:06:04 (1313) <PalePhoenix> no you are a troll
01:06:20 (1601) <willphase> erm: <flory> dooglus, it's not "repay", "refund", you know the mistake is yours, not mine. that's a donation.
01:06:27 (5803) <kylie> what if doog is trying to convince us of his mistake to recover loosses because he is celeste-nakowa-cici
01:06:30 (2) <Deb> thanks will
01:06:50 (1601) <willphase> ermintrude you're not helping at all, but then flory is gone now I think, so your damage is already done
01:06:55 (2) <Deb> i may have accidentally prevented him from responding to that
01:07:14 (1601) <willphase> deb: okay :)
01:07:28 (2) <Deb> short term, only
01:07:53 (2) <Deb> guys, i really do have to head out
01:07:57 (2) <Deb> take care of doogie for me, please
01:07:58 (1583) <Merathe> Erm:I don't think a public chat room is the way to voice concerns in hopes to change things.
01:07:59 (34962) <alycia> oh noes, deb can mute people!
01:08:06 (5884) <no whammies> i hope we didn't scare that high roller off
01:08:08 (34962) <alycia> i'm Erm, Mera
01:08:12 (34962) <alycia> deb muted my other account
01:08:14 (5884) <no whammies> we need them back here to gamble away their profits
01:08:18 (1583) <Merathe> See ya deb
01:08:23 (2) <Deb> bye guys
01:08:25 (1583) <Merathe> with good reason alycia
01:08:25 (34962) <alycia> mute this one too Deb, please
01:08:27 (5884) <no whammies> later debs
01:08:29 (34962) <alycia> way Deb
01:08:32 (34962) <alycia> mute this account too
01:08:51 (1583) <Merathe> okay not its obvious that you're a troll, you gotta be a little more subtle
01:08:56 (1583) <Merathe> now *
01:09:30 (1313) <PalePhoenix> you missed all of his earlier antics Merathe... there is no doubt :)
01:09:44 (34962) <alycia> Pale, you can't backup your claims
01:09:45 (1313) <PalePhoenix> just for the record...
01:09:47 (1313) <PalePhoenix> 11:28:15 (34659) <flory> if you guys think I should donate to doog directly, i'll do that. and if you guys think I should win back 1300, then I'll try.
01:09:50 (34962) <alycia> because you ignored earlier conversation
01:10:00 (1313) <PalePhoenix> 12:35:35 (34659) <flory> doog, say a word, you do take that 120BTC as donation or what? 12:36:09 (1) <dooglus> flory: your account had 1300 in it that wasn't yours. you have repaid 120 of it
01:10:15 (1313) <PalePhoenix> I didn't ignore... I was finding the quotes
01:10:26 (34962) <alycia> just don't skip the ones you don't like, please
01:10:32 (1583) <Merathe> I just woke up and was happy to see the profit up, then I saw this
01:10:41 (3128) <3128> whoaaa how did profit go bak up?
01:10:52 (393) <DeCiB3l> From the 1% edge
01:10:52 (1583) <Merathe> Alicia what the hell do you want him to do? Paste the entire chat for an hour?
01:11:00 (3128) <3128> i mean
01:11:01 (3128) <3128> who lost?
01:11:04 (393) <DeCiB3l> the 1% edge alone is making 1,000 btc a day
01:11:06 (1583) <Merathe> 3128 read the foeums
01:11:08 (34962) <alycia> Mera, I don't want anything
01:11:09 (3128) <3128> kk
01:11:18 (1583) <Merathe> Doog paid 1300 our of pocket
01:11:23 (1313) <PalePhoenix> probably best to go here 3128: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg2735046#msg2735046
01:11:28 (3128) <3128> thanks pale
01:11:31 (1313) <PalePhoenix> ;)
01:11:40 (1583) <Merathe> I need to get off my phone and onto my computer. I'll be back In a bit guys.
01:12:52 (34969) <alycia> anyone remember that scam thread where a guy was selling a way to guess the rolls ? for 5 btc, free trials for hero members ?
01:13:13 (34969) <alycia> ah, found it now
01:13:17 (20153) <unknown> lol
01:13:57 (34969) <alycia> "hmac-sha512" looks legit ..
01:14:03 (34969) <alycia> "hmac-sha512 predictor" ..
01:14:40 (136) <sqwerty> doog and deb: wow just caught up :( sorry guys.
01:14:54 (5884) <no whammies> :(
01:14:58 (2) <Deb> thanks sqwert, bbl, got stuff to do
01:15:01 (136) <sqwerty> sure
01:15:06 (2) <Deb> xox
01:15:15 (1313) <PalePhoenix> crazy weekend sqwerty, huh?
01:15:21 (136) <sqwerty> heh...
01:15:28 (136) <sqwerty> bitcoins deliver
01:15:36 (136) <sqwerty> in the entertainment category
01:15:49 (1313) <PalePhoenix> yeah, nothing is ever boring :)
01:15:53 (5884) <no whammies> lol
01:16:46 (136) <sqwerty> doog: thanks for being awesome. fkn sucks to be freerolled... what a douchenozzle
01:17:16 (1313) <PalePhoenix> meanwhile, btc broke 100. the way things are going, I imagine it will crash any moment now :)
01:17:30 (3128) <3128> jus caught up...
01:17:33 (3128) <3128> im sad..
01:17:37 (3128) <3128> guy should of jus paid back
01:17:40 (3128) <3128> he alrdy won so much..
01:18:07 (1313) <PalePhoenix> yeah, it's a f'in shame
01:18:09 (1601) <willphase> well celeste if you are still lurking here, I think doog would appreciate a donation of the 1180 - I think he's so stressed right now and he's done a good job running the site, and you're still up for the week
01:18:21 (1601) <willphase> but I think the rage sayers in the chat probably scared you away
01:18:21 (1) <dooglus> sqwerty: wondering if I should quit while I'm only 1200 down...
01:19:21 (13653) <Switch> dooglus no way you shuold
01:19:27 (1) <dooglus> before the next round of DDOS, chat spam, suspicious bets, scam accusations, etc.
01:19:28 (3128) <3128> im sorry doog :(
01:19:33 (13653) <Switch> Even with all this, look at your investors
01:19:36 (13653) <Switch> they still trust you
01:19:37 (3128) <3128> btw, doog, im was locked out of my account last night for 1 hour
01:19:39 (3128) <3128> Have no idea why
01:19:42 (13653) <Switch> 25K BTC still invested
01:19:55 (13653) <Switch> You only just opened the site recently
01:20:00 (13653) <Switch> so look at the long run
01:20:15 (1) <dooglus> 3128: chat spamming, hitting the site too often, using multiple accounts from one IP address - these are a few of the things that'll get an IP a timeout
01:20:39 (1) <dooglus> 3128: sorry you were an innocent victim of the IP block
01:20:51 (3128) <3128> np and thank you
01:20:57 (3128) <3128> i was using the bot and was constantly doing runs
01:20:59 (3128) <3128> maybe thats why
01:21:05 (14) <Bugpowder> 4 investors account for 75% of the site investment. As long as those 4 investors stay in, site is all good.
01:21:23 (13653) <Switch> Who are the 4?
01:21:26 (9) <uvwvj> Erik Voorhees
01:21:27 (14) <Bugpowder> mystery
01:21:39 (14) <Bugpowder> only doog knows
01:21:46 (14) <Bugpowder> if even he know?
01:21:47 (1) <dooglus> I'm not the #2 biggest investor any more
01:21:47 (5884) <no whammies> doog may not even know their identities
01:21:49 (13653) <Switch> How did you get the stat then?
01:21:54 (3128) <3128> ;/ sigh
01:21:55 (14) <Bugpowder> Doog you were #2?
01:22:00 (14) <Bugpowder> I thought u were 3
01:22:07 (14) <Bugpowder> Two at 7k
01:22:11 (1) <dooglus> I was until this 1300 went missing and I paid it myself
01:22:21 (3128) <3128> that guy...
01:22:21 (20153) <unknown> bug, i think the other was celeste
01:22:22 (1) <dooglus> bug: didn't you see the 10k withdrawal recently?
01:22:32 (14) <Bugpowder> was that invested tho?
01:22:39 (14) <Bugpowder> or just gamblin' money
01:22:42 (3128) <3128> if he comes back to play and you could verify its him, will you freeze his account?
01:22:45 (11) <kingofsports> anyone else having issues with blockchain wallet?
01:22:50 (1) <dooglus> I don't disclose investor details
01:23:05 (1) <dooglus> 3128: I can't verify it's him
01:23:21 (34969) <alycia> if you suspect it is him, are you going to steal his money ?
01:23:28 (34969) <alycia> his coins, sorry
01:23:29 (3128) <3128> lol i guess thats what i was asking
01:23:38 (13653) <Switch> If we can prove it's him would you take back what's yours?
01:23:40 (20153) <unknown> i think it was celeste/nakowa, the site dropped 7k investment as soon as cici/nakowa hit.
01:23:41 (54) <karma.coin> hey all
01:23:47 (3128) <3128> Yeah
01:23:50 (3128) <3128> i think it was him too
01:24:00 (1313) <PalePhoenix> does anything dooglus has done thus far indicate he would steal anything alycia? can't believe you're still on about that
01:24:10 (34969) <alycia> he did take 120 BTC, Pale
01:24:21 (9) <uvwvj> for the love of god no he didnt,
01:24:22 (1313) <PalePhoenix> yes, that the guy donated and we've been over that
01:24:23 (20153) <unknown> so he profited 2000 in the month, then divested with profits and hit the site. nakowa was very calculated
01:24:30 (1) <dooglus> alycia: I was told it's a donation
01:24:30 (136) <sqwerty> doog: i understand about wanting to bail man... that was sick hit man. vomitous.
01:24:32 (1313) <PalePhoenix> why am I arguing with a troll? lol
01:24:43 (3128) <3128> what a greedy ho..
01:24:45 (34969) <alycia> Pale because you are wrong and trying to make a false claim
01:24:46 (1583) <Merathe> Yeah just stop pale
01:24:54 (1313) <PalePhoenix> I posted the quotes lol
01:25:01 (34969) <alycia> the ones you liked
01:25:04 (20153) <unknown> sorry he profited part of 2000 profits that we all had, and then divested and hit the site.
01:25:17 (14) <Bugpowder> 13:11:04 (393) <DeCiB3l> the 1% edge alone is making 1,000 btc a day
01:25:22 (14) <Bugpowder> YUP
01:25:27 (14) <Bugpowder> on average
01:25:32 (1313) <PalePhoenix> ok ok you win. best of luck to ya
01:25:37 (14) <Bugpowder> oh no... I mean 100
01:25:40 (34969) <alycia> thanks, i'm the winner!
01:25:41 (12182) <iguru42> jerry just martinfailed
01:25:44 (1583) <Merathe> Pale:just stop, you can't win against him. Arguing against an idiot doesn't work out
01:25:54 (3128) <3128> wow jerry
01:25:55 (3128) <3128> yeahhhhh
01:25:59 (11) <kingofsports> blockchain is not loading.
01:26:02 (11) <kingofsports> really now
01:26:03 (14) <Bugpowder> this site still super young
01:26:05 (34969) <alycia> Mera especially when you can't backup your claims
01:26:09 (3128) <3128> this is depressing ..
01:26:09 (11) <kingofsports> blockchain.info not loading any wallet info
01:26:15 (11) <kingofsports> and also blockexplorer too
01:26:26 (34969) <alycia> we can ask celeste if it was a donation or not, simply as that
01:26:27 (14) <Bugpowder> We could very plausibly seen 1M bet next month
01:26:43 (14) <Bugpowder> which would be an EV of 10,000 coins
01:26:47 (136) <sqwerty> and be down 15,000 ;/
01:27:02 (2619) <Aahzmundus> Trying to get caught up on news, did Cici donate to doog for the loss? is that what im reading?
01:27:04 (1313) <PalePhoenix> I know merathe, I'm excitable today :) I'm done
01:27:08 (14) <Bugpowder> 13% of profits would make it up.
01:27:32 (14) <Bugpowder> It could easily happen
01:27:42 (14) <Bugpowder> S.DICE had several months >1M bet
01:27:44 (136) <sqwerty> anything could easily happen.
01:27:54 (14) <Bugpowder> and now I'm not so sure that he was running bots
01:28:00 (136) <sqwerty> heh
01:28:03 (136) <sqwerty> true
01:28:12 (8660) <devinthedev> doog are you here
01:28:15 (14) <Bugpowder> since its clear there are insane people out there that like to gamble 150k in a day.
01:28:20 (14) <Bugpowder> 150k coins.
01:28:31 (34969) <alycia> for all we know, jerry could be celeste
01:28:34 (34969) <alycia> doog is looking at him
01:28:37 (136) <sqwerty> insane is relative ... i think you're insane
01:29:04 (5884) <no whammies> welcome Jerry!
01:29:23 (5884) <no whammies> its not the same betting pattern
01:29:27 (20153) <unknown> unlikely jerry is celeste, celeste and nakowa bet with lots of small 0.01 test bets, they do not do straight martingale
01:29:33 (1) <dooglus> hi devin.
01:29:42 (34969) <alycia> jerry brought only about 100 BTC
01:29:46 (34969) <alycia> won't won big
01:29:48 (1) <dooglus> do you have a faucet to advertise?
01:29:49 (34969) <alycia> win*
01:31:04 (20153) <unknown> jerry how much are you up?
01:31:11 (20153) <unknown> or down?
01:31:16 (34969) <alycia> mostly even i would think
01:31:21 (11) <kingofsports> is there any way to get into my blockchain wallet when blockchain.info is not working?
01:31:28 (20153) <unknown> nope
01:31:39 (20153) <unknown> unless you have the private key
01:31:43 (1) <dooglus> king: if you have a backup of it. you can import the keys into bitcoin-qt
01:31:54 (20153) <unknown> the address can be derived from the private key
01:32:10 (34969) <alycia> i guess jerry is using that "hmac-sha512 predictor", all this changing between HI and LO
01:32:32 (136) <sqwerty> or.. he's having fun
01:32:46 (20153) <unknown> ah the changing between hi low is a fallacy, can't make a difference, any difference is pure luck.
01:32:59 (20153) <unknown> i'm sure his having a blast!
01:33:22 (34969) <alycia> it is not a fallacy if you can predict the outcome!
01:33:34 (20153) <unknown> alycia, if true the site is broken
01:33:44 (34969) <alycia> it is not true, it is just another scam
01:33:58 (3128) <3128> he's hella losin though
01:34:03 (1583) <Merathe> Guys stop arguing with alycia
01:34:07 (3128) <3128> jus ur good o' martingale
01:34:14 (1583) <Merathe> he's always right no matter what
01:34:26 (34969) <alycia> arguing about what mera ? tha sha512 isn't broken ?
01:34:29 (34969) <alycia> are you claiming it is ?
01:34:31 (3128) <3128> oh wait nvm
01:34:35 (3128) <3128> he's losin a bit now ;/
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