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• 21:08:37 silentworks: Bopp you remember what I was saying last night about the MODX community? this https://medium.com/@donaldatkinson/modx-recognizing-its-relevancy-bfeda208383f
• 21:11:37 Bopp: "Quite simply, because MODX is the only CMS that allows anyone to make highly advanced dynamic websites with a minimal level of software development experience. "
• 21:11:48 Bopp: silentworks: right. i see what you mean. 
• Pinpickle [de9a6103@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.222.154.97.3] entered the room. (21:11:54)
• 21:12:18 silentworks: And this is why the Bolt community is great
• 21:12:29 silentworks: I just hope the community will remain this way for years to come
• 21:13:04 Bopp: Anybody that says anything with "Project X is the only [project group] that allows Y" you've instantyl made a fool of yourself
• 21:14:13 rarila2: Bolt is the only project that allows #beer while coding
• 21:14:14 [BoltIssueBall]: return $this->app['beer']->serve('everyone')->sendBillTo('rarila2');
• 21:14:22 Bopp: silentworks: I'm sure it will. All of us are here because it is the way it is, and we'll fight tooth and claw to keep it that way.
• 21:15:05 silentworks: indeed
• 21:15:48 silentworks: Its almost like some have made MODX a subculture and its own programming language even though its written in PHP
• 21:17:26 Bopp: One one hand, I think that guy is great: He obviously loves the project he's involved in, and feels strongly about it..
• 21:17:27 silentworks: the worst bit is the actual company itself retweeted the tweet with that article, this is why its not good to mix corporate with opensource
• 21:18:07 Bopp: At the same time.. He really sounds misguided. no project is ever perfect.. And the moment you claim it to be, you stop looking outward/forward and you stagnate.
• 21:23:33 Bopp: silentworks: that article is really, really rubbing me the wrong way, and I can't really put my finger on it..
• 21:24:01 Bopp: silentworks: in some ways, it almost reads like scientology propaganda, peddling their pseudo-religion.
• 21:24:27 Bopp: "This shouldn’t be a realization to the community, but until recently, was not a widely accepted truth. The MODX Development Team must have had this in mind, because otherwise why would they give us, as developers the choice to change the Type."
• 21:24:37 Bopp: that's like a really weird way to put it.
• 21:28:07 silentworks: yep
• 21:28:35 silentworks: the fact he thinks the core team is wrong in that they think MODX need to change is just out of this world
• 21:30:43 Bopp: It's also clear that he hasn't tried any other CMS in the last few years. Everything he describes he makes sound like magic, while it's really basic stuf..
• 21:30:53 Bopp: "oooooh, handling 404 pages!"
• 21:31:10 CarsonF: lol
• 21:31:16 silentworks: the fact is most of what he describes isn't as easy as he describes it in MODX
• 21:31:59 silentworks: he sounds like someone who have only every used Wordpress before and think that MODX is the only other CMS out there
• 21:34:22 Bopp: "The strength of MODX is the fact that Jason and his team have already done it right… they (and the community) just don’t seem to grasp how right it already is."
• 21:34:28 Bopp: geeeeezzzzz
• 21:35:07 silentworks: looool
• 21:35:52 CarsonF: Wow. Pride before the fall
• 21:36:11 silentworks: that my friend is an overzealous fan
• 21:37:10 silentworks: how can you write a response to the lead dev of the project's article and saying he has already done everything right, when his article is saying he wants to make things better
• 21:37:50 Bopp: In some ways it reminds me of the backdropcms kerfluffle..
• 21:38:14 Bopp: "Drupal is fine as it is! We don't need no stinking autoloading and namespaces!"
• 21:39:31 Bopp: ok, one more stupid quote from the article: "Understanding the above, integrating MODX into MODX gives unparalleled freedom to the future development of MODX. MODX is the only framework that can micronize itself."
• 21:39:54 Bopp: Some of those are actually existing words!
• 21:40:13 CarsonF: Haha
• 21:41:38 Bopp: "It is quite safe to say that with these realizations, MODX achieves a level of freedom that has previously only been achieved by low-level operating system code."
• 21:41:47 Bopp: oh, man.. It just keeps on giving..
• 21:43:23 Bopp: gegoolged op "vector flags world" 
• 21:43:37 Bopp: oops, wrong window
• 21:45:41 silentworks: lol
• nicholas040 left the room (quit: Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). (21:48:16)
• 21:48:35 CarsonF: He says the devs wants restful APIs. And then says it allows you to do restful APIs. dafuq?
• 21:49:04 CarsonF: Like within two sentences of each other
• nicholas040 [[email protected]] entered the room. (21:49:50)
• 21:54:09 Bopp: that article is nuts on so many levels..
• 21:54:19 Bopp: Thanks for sharing, Andrew! 
• 21:54:23 silentworks: stop reading it plz
• 21:55:09 silentworks: Its one of those hilarious, annoying, confusing, overzealous, magnificent on the wrong level articles
• donaldatkinson [5f5cbc12@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.92.188.18] entered the room. (21:55:36)
• 21:55:46 silentworks: this article is the reason I ceased having input on MODX
• 21:55:51 donaldatkinson: So y'all like MODX then
• 21:56:05 silentworks: No we like Bolt
• 21:56:14 silentworks: well we like all CMSes
• 21:56:24 silentworks: just not as overzealous as yourself
• 21:56:25 Bopp: We like "the best tool for the job" 
• 21:56:56 donaldatkinson: Well for me the best tool for the job is a screwdriver. But y'know
• donaldatkinson left the room (quit: Client Quit). (21:57:27)
• 21:57:32 silentworks: lol
• 21:57:40 silentworks: thats just crazy
• 21:57:52 Bopp: ok, what the hell was that?
• 21:58:06 Bopp: silentworks: Andrew… Did you do that?
• 21:58:12 silentworks: nope
• 21:58:22 silentworks: I was wondering how he got in here
• 21:58:30 silentworks: did someone retweet his article?
• 21:58:49 Bopp: ha! it was Gawain! Damn you, gawain! 
• 21:59:01 Bopp: [bob:~]$ nslookup 95.92.188.18
• Server: 192.168.1.1
• Address: 192.168.1.1#53
• Non-authoritative answer:
• 18.188.92.95.in-addr.arpa name = a95-92-188-18.cpe.netcabo.pt.
• 21:59:05 [BoltIssueBall]: (notice) #53 Search bar bolt/bolt#53
• 21:59:09 gawainlynch: has tears in his eyes from laughing so hard
• 21:59:18 CarsonF: Hahahaha
• 21:59:34 Bopp: hahahaha
• 21:59:39 Bopp: that was hilarious.
• 21:59:46 gawainlynch: I am laughing so hard I am entertaining everyone in the room here
• 21:59:49 Bopp: You should do Taylor Otwell next 
• 21:59:54 silentworks: ah darn you gawainlynch
• 21:59:59 CarsonF: Well played sir
• 21:59:59 silentworks: we are no longer friends
• 22:00:16 Bopp: hahahaha, i am having so much fun
• 22:01:51 gawainlynch: OK… Almost composed myself here
• rossriley [~[email protected]] entered the room. (22:02:00)
• 22:02:15 silentworks: you got me bro
• 22:02:57 CarsonF: Ross you just missed all the fun!
• 22:03:16 gawainlynch: Thing is, I am so used to running a geoiplookup on everyone's IP that I thought you'd see though it straight away
• 22:03:38 rossriley: hello
• 22:03:47 silentworks: I was actually looking it up, but was too slow
• 22:03:49 Bopp: you really missed it, ross.