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Stevey's Google Platforms Rant | |
I was at Amazon for about six and a half years, and now I've been at Google for | |
that long. One thing that struck me immediately about the two companies -- an | |
impression that has been reinforced almost daily -- is that Amazon does | |
everything wrong, and Google does everything right. Sure, it's a sweeping | |
generalization, but a surprisingly accurate one. It's pretty crazy. There are | |
probably a hundred or even two hundred different ways you can compare the two | |
companies, and Google is superior in all but three of them, if I recall | |
correctly. I actually did a spreadsheet at one point but Legal wouldn't let me | |
show it to anyone, even though recruiting loved it. | |
I mean, just to give you a very brief taste: Amazon's recruiting process is | |
fundamentally flawed by having teams hire for themselves, so their hiring bar is | |
incredibly inconsistent across teams, despite various efforts they've made to | |
level it out. And their operations are a mess; they don't really have SREs and | |
they make engineers pretty much do everything, which leaves almost no time for | |
coding - though again this varies by group, so it's luck of the draw. They | |
don't give a single shit about charity or helping the needy or community | |
contributions or anything like that. Never comes up there, except maybe to | |
laugh about it. Their facilities are dirt-smeared cube farms without a dime | |
spent on decor or common meeting areas. Their pay and benefits suck, although | |
much less so lately due to local competition from Google and Facebook. But they | |
don't have any of our perks or extras -- they just try to match the offer-letter | |
numbers, and that's the end of it. Their code base is a disaster, with no | |
engineering standards whatsoever except what individual teams choose to put in | |
place. | |
To be fair, they do have a nice versioned-library system that we really ought to | |
emulate, and a nice publish-subscribe system that we also have no equivalent | |
for. But for the most part they just have a bunch of crappy tools that read and | |
write state machine information into relational databases. We wouldn't take | |
most of it even if it were free. | |
I think the pubsub system and their library-shelf system were two out of the | |
grand total of three things Amazon does better than google. | |
I guess you could make an argument that their bias for launching early and | |
iterating like mad is also something they do well, but you can argue it either | |
way. They prioritize launching early over everything else, including retention | |
and engineering discipline and a bunch of other stuff that turns out to matter | |
in the long run. So even though it's given them some competitive advantages in | |
the marketplace, it's created enough other problems to make it something less | |
than a slam-dunk. | |
But there's one thing they do really really well that pretty much makes up for | |
ALL of their political, philosophical and technical screw-ups. | |
Jeff Bezos is an infamous micro-manager. He micro-manages every single pixel of | |
Amazon's retail site. He hired Larry Tesler, Apple's Chief Scientist and | |
probably the very most famous and respected human-computer interaction expert in | |
the entire world, and then ignored every goddamn thing Larry said for three | |
years until Larry finally -- wisely -- left the company. Larry would do these | |
big usability studies and demonstrate beyond any shred of doubt that nobody can | |
understand that frigging website, but Bezos just couldn't let go of those | |
pixels, all those millions of semantics-packed pixels on the landing page. They | |
were like millions of his own precious children. So they're all still there, | |
and Larry is not. | |
Micro-managing isn't that third thing that Amazon does better than us, by the | |
way. I mean, yeah, they micro-manage really well, but I wouldn't list it as a | |
strength or anything. I'm just trying to set the context here, to help you | |
understand what happened. We're talking about a guy who in all seriousness has | |
said on many public occasions that people should be paying him to work at | |
Amazon. He hands out little yellow stickies with his name on them, reminding | |
people "who runs the company" when they disagree with him. The guy is a | |
regular... well, Steve Jobs, I guess. Except without the fashion or design | |
sense. Bezos is super smart; don't get me wrong. He just makes ordinary | |
control freaks look like stoned hippies. | |
So one day Jeff Bezos issued a mandate. He's doing that all the time, of | |
course, and people scramble like ants being pounded with a rubber mallet | |
whenever it happens. But on one occasion -- back around 2002 I think, plus or | |
minus a year -- he issued a mandate that was so out there, so huge and | |
eye-bulgingly ponderous, that it made all of his other mandates look like | |
unsolicited peer bonuses. | |
His Big Mandate went something along these lines: | |
1) All teams will henceforth expose their data and functionality through service | |
interfaces. | |
2) Teams must communicate with each other through these interfaces. | |
3) There will be no other form of interprocess communication allowed: no direct | |
linking, no direct reads of another team's data store, no shared-memory model, | |
no back-doors whatsoever. The only communication allowed is via service | |
interface calls over the network. | |
4) It doesn't matter what technology they use. HTTP, Corba, Pubsub, custom | |
protocols -- doesn't matter. Bezos doesn't care. | |
5) All service interfaces, without exception, must be designed from the ground | |
up to be externalizable. That is to say, the team must plan and design to be | |
able to expose the interface to developers in the outside world. No exceptions. | |
6) Anyone who doesn't do this will be fired. | |
7) Thank you; have a nice day! | |
Ha, ha! You 150-odd ex-Amazon folks here will of course realize immediately | |
that #7 was a little joke I threw in, because Bezos most definitely does not | |
give a shit about your day. | |
#6, however, was quite real, so people went to work. Bezos assigned a couple of | |
Chief Bulldogs to oversee the effort and ensure forward progress, headed up by | |
Uber-Chief Bear Bulldog Rick Dalzell. Rick is an ex-Armgy Ranger, West Point | |
Academy graduate, ex-boxer, ex-Chief Torturer slash CIO at Wal*Mart, and is a | |
big genial scary man who used the word "hardened interface" a lot. Rick was a | |
walking, talking hardened interface himself, so needless to say, everyone made | |
LOTS of forward progress and made sure Rick knew about it. | |
Over the next couple of years, Amazon transformed internally into a | |
service-oriented architecture. They learned a tremendous amount while effecting | |
this transformation. There was lots of existing documentation and lore about | |
SOAs, but at Amazon's vast scale it was about as useful as telling Indiana Jones | |
to look both ways before crossing the street. Amazon's dev staff made a lot of | |
discoveries along the way. A teeny tiny sampling of these discoveries included: | |
- pager escalation gets way harder, because a ticket might bounce through 20 | |
service calls before the real owner is identified. If each bounce goes | |
through a team with a 15-minute response time, it can be hours before the | |
right team finally finds out, unless you build a lot of scaffolding and | |
metrics and reporting. | |
- every single one of your peer teams suddenly becomes a potential DOS attacker. | |
Nobody can make any real forward progress until very serious quotas and | |
throttling are put in place in every single service. | |
- monitoring and QA are the same thing. You'd never think so until you try | |
doing a big SOA. But when your service says "oh yes, I'm fine", it may well | |
be the case that the only thing still functioning in the server is the little | |
component that knows how to say "I'm fine, roger roger, over and out" in a | |
cheery droid voice. In order to tell whether the service is actually | |
responding, you have to make individual calls. The problem continues | |
recursively until your monitoring is doing comprehensive semantics checking of | |
your entire range of services and data, at which point it's indistinguishable | |
from automated QA. So they're a continuum. | |
- if you have hundreds of services, and your code MUST communicate with other | |
groups' code via these services, then you won't be able to find any of them | |
without a service-discovery mechanism. And you can't have that without a | |
service registration mechanism, which itself is another service. So Amazon | |
has a universal service registry where you can find out reflectively | |
(programmatically) about every service, what its APIs are, and also whether it | |
is currently up, and where. | |
- debugging problems with someone else's code gets a LOT harder, and is | |
basically impossible unless there is a universal standard way to run every | |
service in a debuggable sandbox. | |
That's just a very small sample. There are dozens, maybe hundreds of individual | |
learnings like these that Amazon had to discover organically. There were a lot | |
of wacky ones around externalizing services, but not as many as you might think. | |
Organizing into services taught teams not to trust each other in most of the | |
same ways they're not supposed to trust external developers. | |
This effort was still underway when I left to join Google in mid-2005, but it | |
was pretty far advanced. From the time Bezos issued his edict through the time | |
I left, Amazon had transformed culturally into a company that thinks about | |
everything in a services-first fashion. It is now fundamental to how they | |
approach all designs, including internal designs for stuff that might never see | |
the light of day externally. | |
At this point they don't even do it out of fear of being fired. I mean, they're | |
still afraid of that; it's pretty much part of daily life there, working for the | |
Dread Pirate Bezos and all. But they do services because they've come to | |
understand that it's the Right Thing. There are without question pros and cons | |
to the SOA approach, and some of the cons are pretty long. But overall it's the | |
right thing because SOA-driven design enables Platforms. | |
That's what Bezos was up to with his edict, of course. He didn't (and doesn't) | |
care even a tiny bit about the well-being of the teams, nor about what | |
technologies they use, nor in fact any detail whatsoever about how they go about | |
their business unless they happen to be screwing up. But Bezos realized long | |
before the vast majority of Amazonians that Amazon needs to be a platform. | |
You wouldn't really think that an online bookstore needs to be an extensible, | |
programmable platform. Would you? | |
Well, the first big thing Bezos realized is that the infrastructure they'd built | |
for selling and shipping books and sundry could be transformed an excellent | |
repurposable computing platform. So now they have the Amazon Elastic | |
Compute Cloud, and the Amazon Elastic MapReduce, and the Amazon Relational | |
Database Service, and a whole passel' o' other services browsable at | |
aws.amazon.com. These services host the backends for some pretty successful | |
companies, reddit being my personal favorite of the bunch. | |
The other big realization he had was that he can't always build the right thing. | |
I think Larry Tesler might have struck some kind of chord in Bezos when he said | |
his mom couldn't use the goddamn website. It's not even super clear whose mom | |
he was talking about, and doesn't really matter, because nobody's mom can use | |
the goddamn website. In fact I myself find the website disturbingly daunting, | |
and I worked there for over half a decade. I've just learned to kinda defocus | |
my eyes and concentrate on the million or so pixels near the center of the page | |
above the fold. | |
I'm not really sure how Bezos came to this realization -- the insight that he | |
can't build one product and have it be right for everyone. But it doesn't | |
matter, because he gets it. There's actually a formal name for this phenomenon. | |
It's called Accessibility, and it's the most important thing in the computing | |
world. | |
The. Most. Important. Thing. | |
If you're sorta thinking, "huh? You mean like, blind and deaf people | |
Accessibility?" then you're not alone, because I've come to understand that | |
there are lots and LOTS of people just like you: people for whom this idea does | |
not have the right Accessibility, so it hasn't been able to get through to you | |
yet. It's not your fault for not understanding, any more than it would be your | |
fault for being blind or deaf or motion-restricted or living with any other | |
disability. When software -- or idea-ware for that matter -- fails to be | |
accessible to anyone for any reason, it is the fault of the software or of the | |
messaging of the idea. It is an Accessibility failure. | |
Like anything else big and important in life, Accessibility has an evil twin | |
who, jilted by the unbalanced affection displayed by their parents in their | |
youth, has grown into an equally powerful Arch-Nemesis (yes, there's more than | |
one nemesis to accessibility) named Security. And boy howdy are the two ever at | |
odds. | |
But I'll argue that Accessibility is actually more important than Security | |
because dialing Accessibility to zero means you have no product at all, whereas | |
dialing Security to zero can still get you a reasonably successful product such | |
as the Playstation Network. | |
So yeah. In case you hadn't noticed, I could actually write a book on this | |
topic. A fat one, filled with amusing anecdotes about ants and rubber mallets | |
at companies I've worked at. But I will never get this little rant published, | |
and you'll never get it read, unless I start to wrap up. | |
That one last thing that Google doesn't do well is Platforms. We don't | |
understand platforms. We don't "get" platforms. Some of you do, but you are | |
the minority. This has become painfully clear to me over the past six years. I | |
was kind of hoping that competitive pressure from Microsoft and Amazon and more | |
recently Facebook would make us wake up collectively and start doing universal | |
services. Not in some sort of ad-hoc, half-assed way, but in more or less the | |
same way Amazon did it: all at once, for real, no cheating, and treating it as | |
our top priority from now on. | |
But no. No, it's like our tenth or eleventh priority. Or fifteenth, I don't | |
know. It's pretty low. There are a few teams who treat the idea very | |
seriously, but most teams either don't think about it all, ever, or only a small | |
percentage of them think about it in a very small way. | |
It's a big stretch even to get most teams to offer a stubby service to get | |
programmatic access to their data and computations. Most of them think they're | |
building products. And a stubby service is a pretty pathetic service. Go back | |
and look at that partial list of learnings from Amazon, and tell me which ones | |
Stubby gives you out of the box. As far as I'm concerned, it's none of them. | |
Stubby's great, but it's like parts when you need a car. | |
A product is useless without a platform, or more precisely and accurately, a | |
platform-less product will always be replaced by an equivalent platform-ized | |
product. | |
Google+ is a prime example of our complete failure to understand platforms from | |
the very highest levels of executive leadership (hi Larry, Sergey, Eric, Vic, | |
howdy howdy) down to the very lowest leaf workers (hey yo). We all don't get | |
it. The Golden Rule of platforms is that you Eat Your Own Dogfood. The Google+ | |
platform is a pathetic afterthought. We had no API at all at launch, and last I | |
checked, we had one measly API call. One of the team members marched in and | |
told me about it when they launched, and I asked: "So is it the Stalker API?" | |
She got all glum and said "Yeah." I mean, I was joking, but no... the only API | |
call we offer is to get someone's stream. So I guess the joke was on me. | |
Microsoft has known about the Dogfood rule for at least twenty years. It's been | |
part of their culture for a whole generation now. You don't eat People Food and | |
give your developers Dog Food. Doing that is simply robbing your long-term | |
platform value for short-term successes. Platforms are all about long-term | |
thinking. | |
Google+ is a knee-jerk reaction, a study in short-term thinking, predicated on | |
the incorrect notion that Facebook is successful because they built a great | |
product. But that's not why they are successful. Facebook is successful | |
because they built an entire constellation of products by allowing other people | |
to do the work. So Facebook is different for everyone. Some people spend all | |
their time on Mafia Wars. Some spend all their time on Farmville. There are | |
hundreds or maybe thousands of different high-quality time sinks available, so | |
there's something there for everyone. | |
Our Google+ team took a look at the aftermarket and said: "Gosh, it looks like | |
we need some games. Let's go contract someone to, um, write some games for us." | |
Do you begin to see how incredibly wrong that thinking is now? The problem is | |
that we are trying to predict what people want and deliver it for them. | |
You can't do that. Not really. Not reliably. There have been precious few | |
people in the world, over the entire history of computing, who have been able to | |
do it reliably. Steve Jobs was one of them. We don't have a Steve Jobs here. | |
I'm sorry, but we don't. | |
Larry Tesler may have convinced Bezos that he was no Steve Jobs, but Bezos | |
realized that he didn't need to be a Steve Jobs in order to provide everyone | |
with the right products: interfaces and workflows that they liked and felt at | |
ease with. He just needed to enable third-party developers to do it, and it | |
would happen automatically. | |
I apologize to those (many) of you for whom all this stuff I'm saying is | |
incredibly obvious, because yeah. It's incredibly frigging obvious. Except | |
we're not doing it. We don't get Platforms, and we don't get Accessibility. | |
The two are basically the same thing, because platforms solve accessibility. A | |
platform is accessibility. | |
So yeah, Microsoft gets it. And you know as well as I do how surprising that | |
is, because they don't "get" much of anything, really. But they understand | |
platforms as a purely accidental outgrowth of having started life in the | |
business of providing platforms. So they have thirty-plus years of learning in | |
this space. And if you go to msdn.com, and spend some time browsing, and you've | |
never seen it before, prepare to be amazed. Because it's staggeringly huge. | |
They have thousands, and thousands, and THOUSANDS of API calls. They have a | |
HUGE platform. Too big in fact, because they can't design for squat, but at | |
least they're doing it. | |
Amazon gets it. Amazon's AWS (aws.amazon.com) is incredible. Just go look at | |
it. Click around. It's embarrassing. We don't have any of that stuff. | |
Apple gets it, obviously. They've made some fundamentally non-open choices, | |
particularly around their mobile platform. But they understand accessibility | |
and they understand the power of third-party development and they eat their | |
dogfood. And you know what? They make pretty good dogfood. Their APIs are a | |
hell of a lot cleaner than Microsoft's, and have been since time immemorial. | |
Facebook gets it. That's what really worries me. That's what got me off my | |
lazy butt to write this thing. I hate blogging. I hate... plussing, or | |
whatever it's called when you do a massive rant in Google+ even though it's a | |
terrible venue for it but you do it anyway because in the end you really do want | |
Google to be successful. And I do! I mean, Facebook wants me there, and it'd | |
be pretty easy to just go. But Google is home, so I'm insisting that we have | |
this little family intervention, uncomfortable as it might be. | |
After you've marveled at the platform offerings of Microsoft and Amazon, and | |
Facebook I guess (I didn't look because I didn't want to get too depressed), | |
head over to developers.google.com and browse a little. Pretty big difference, | |
eh? It's like what your fifth-grade nephew might mock up if he were doing an | |
assignment to demonstrate what a big powerful platform company might be building | |
if all they had, resource-wise, was one fifth grader. | |
Please don't get me wrong here -- I know for a fact that the dev-rel team has | |
had to FIGHT to get even this much available externally. They're kicking ass as | |
far as I'm concerned, because they DO get platforms, and they are struggling | |
heroically to try to create one in an environment that is at best | |
platform-apathetic, and at worst often openly hostile to the idea. | |
I'm just frankly describing what developers.google.com looks like to an | |
outsider. It looks childish. Where's the Maps APIs in there for Christ's sake? | |
Some of the things in there are labs projects. And the APIs for everything I | |
clicked were... they were paltry. They were obviously dog food. Not even good | |
organic stuff. Compared to our internal APIs it's all snouts and horse hooves. | |
And also don't get me wrong about Google+. They're far from the only offenders. | |
This is a cultural thing. What we have going on internally is basically a war, | |
with the underdog minority Platformers fighting a more or less losing battle | |
against the Mighty Funded Confident Producters. | |
Any teams that have successfully internalized the notion that they should be | |
externally programmable platforms from the ground up are underdogs -- Maps and | |
Docs come to mind, and I know GMail is making overtures in that direction. But | |
it's hard for them to get funding for it because it's not part of our culture. | |
Maestro's funding is a feeble thing compared to the gargantuan Microsoft Office | |
programming platform: it's a fluffy rabbit versus a T-Rex. The Docs team knows | |
they'll never be competitive with Office until they can match its scripting | |
facilities, but they're not getting any resource love. I mean, I assume they're | |
not, given that Apps Script only works in Spreadsheet right now, and it doesn't | |
even have keyboard shortcuts as part of its API. That team looks pretty unloved | |
to me. | |
Ironically enough, Wave was a great platform, may they rest in peace. But | |
making something a platform is not going to make you an instant success. A | |
platform needs a killer app. Facebook -- that is, the stock service they offer | |
with walls and friends and such -- is the killer app for the Facebook Platform. | |
And it is a very serious mistake to conclude that the Facebook App could have | |
been anywhere near as successful without the Facebook Platform. | |
You know how people are always saying Google is arrogant? I'm a Googler, so I | |
get as irritated as you do when people say that. We're not arrogant, by and | |
large. We're, like, 99% Arrogance-Free. I did start this post -- if you'll | |
reach back into distant memory -- by describing Google as "doing everything | |
right". We do mean well, and for the most part when people say we're arrogant | |
it's because we didn't hire them, or they're unhappy with our policies, or | |
something along those lines. They're inferring arrogance because it makes them | |
feel better. | |
But when we take the stance that we know how to design the perfect product for | |
everyone, and believe you me, I hear that a lot, then we're being fools. You | |
can attribute it to arrogance, or naivete, or whatever -- it doesn't matter in | |
the end, because it's foolishness. There IS no perfect product for everyone. | |
And so we wind up with a browser that doesn't let you set the default font size. | |
Talk about an affront to Accessibility. I mean, as I get older I'm actually | |
going blind. For real. I've been nearsighted all my life, and once you hit 40 | |
years old you stop being able to see things up close. So font selection becomes | |
this life-or-death thing: it can lock you out of the product completely. But | |
the Chrome team is flat-out arrogant here: they want to build a | |
zero-configuration product, and they're quite brazen about it, and Fuck You if | |
you're blind or deaf or whatever. Hit Ctrl-+ on every single page visit for the | |
rest of your life. | |
It's not just them. It's everyone. The problem is that we're a Product Company | |
through and through. We built a successful product with broad appeal -- our | |
search, that is -- and that wild success has biased us. | |
Amazon was a product company too, so it took an out-of-band force to make Bezos | |
understand the need for a platform. That force was their evaporating margins; | |
he was cornered and had to think of a way out. But all he had was a bunch of | |
engineers and all these computers... if only they could be monetized somehow... | |
you can see how he arrived at AWS, in hindsight. | |
Microsoft started out as a platform, so they've just had lots of practice at it. | |
Facebook, though: they worry me. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they | |
started off as a Product and they rode that success pretty far. So I'm not sure | |
exactly how they made the transition to a platform. It was a relatively long | |
time ago, since they had to be a platform before (now very old) things like | |
Mafia Wars could come along. | |
Maybe they just looked at us and asked: "How can we beat Google? What are they | |
missing?" | |
The problem we face is pretty huge, because it will take a dramatic cultural | |
change in order for us to start catching up. We don't do internal | |
service-oriented platforms, and we just as equally don't do external ones. This | |
means that the "not getting it" is endemic across the company: the PMs don't | |
get it, the engineers don't get it, the product teams don't get it, nobody gets | |
it. Even if individuals do, even if YOU do, it doesn't matter one bit unless | |
we're treating it as an all-hands-on-deck emergency. We can't keep launching | |
products and pretending we'll turn them into magical beautiful extensible | |
platforms later. We've tried that and it's not working. | |
The Golden Rule of Platforms, "Eat Your Own Dogfood", can be rephrased as "Start | |
with a Platform, and Then Use it for Everything." You can't just bolt it on | |
later. Certainly not easily at any rate -- ask anyone who worked on | |
platformizing MS Office. Or anyone who worked on platformizing Amazon. If you | |
delay it, it'll be ten times as much work as just doing it correctly up front. | |
You can't cheat. You can't have secret back doors for internal apps to get | |
special priority access, not for ANY reason. You need to solve the hard | |
problems up front. | |
I'm not saying it's too late for us, but the longer we wait, the closer we get | |
to being Too Late. | |
I honestly don't know how to wrap this up. I've said pretty much everything I | |
came here to say today. This post has been six years in the making. I'm sorry | |
if I wasn't gentle enough, or if I misrepresented some product or team or | |
person, or if we're actually doing LOTS of platform stuff and it just so | |
happens that I and everyone I ever talk to has just never heard about it. | |
I'm sorry. | |
But we've gotta start doing this right. |
Many thanks for this... Did you keep the date when it was published on Google+?
Unfortunately not. The Google+ post I archived from was also another copy of the original, as eventually deleted Steve deleted his post (or Google+ account?) for some reason. :(
Many thanks for this... Did you keep the date when it was published on Google+?
No way of confirming now, but I see this article refers to it being posted "last night" which would be 12Oct11-ish.
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Many thanks for this... Did you keep the date when it was published on Google+?