Talon Merc testing for ME3 Multiplayer - trying to pin down what causes the thermal clips to go away!

me3mp.00.talon_testing.md

Control notes:

Glacier, Reapers, Bronze, On-host, Harrier X + Piercing V & Extended Clip V

Build 1:

Narida: 01003

• Hydraulic Joints: GRENADE COUNT: 3 THERMAL CLIPS? YES
• Warfighter Package: 5 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 8 Y

Build 2:

Nardia: 02003

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 Y
• Warfighter Package: 6 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 9 Y

Build 3:

Narida: 03003

• Hydraulic Joints: SKIPPED
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: 9 Y

Build 4:

Nardia: 04003
Concussive Arrows: b (Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 5 Y
• Warfighter Package: 7 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 9 Y

Build 5:

Nardia: 05003
Concussive Arrows: bb (Grenade Capacity, Chill)

• Hydraulic Joints: 5 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 6:

Narida: 06003
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 7 Y
• Warfighter Package: 9 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 12 Y

Build 7:

Narida: 06103
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 7 Y
• Warfighter Package: 9 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 12 Y

Build 8:

Narida: 06203
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 8 Y
• Warfighter Package: 10 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 13 Y

Build 9:

Narida: 06303
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 8 Y
• Warfighter Package: 10 Y
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 10:

Narida: 06403
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: b (Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 9 Y
• Warfighter Package: 11 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 14 Y

Build 11:

Narida: 06503
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 9 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 12:

Narida: 06603
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 11 Y
• Warfighter Package: 13 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 16 Y

Build 13:

Narida: 06613 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: SKIPPED
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: 16 Y

Build 14:

Narida: 06623 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: SKIPPED
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: 16 Y

Build 15:

Narida: 06633 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: SKIPPED
• Warfighter Package: 13 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 16 Y

Build 16:

Narida: 16633 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 11 Y
• Warfighter Package: 13 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 16 Y

NOTE: at this point I put it on gold so that I would die faster after loading up T.T bronze cannibals do so little damage lol

Build 17:

Narida: 26633 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y

Build 18:

Narida: 36633 Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 19:

Narida: 46633 Cain Trip Mines: b (Damage)
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 20:

Narida: 56633 Cain Trip Mines: bb (Damage, Grenade Capacity)
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 14 Y
• Warfighter Package: 16 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 19 Y

Build 21:

Narida: 66633 Cain Trip Mines: bbb (Radius, Grenade Capacity, Radius)
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 14 Y
• Warfighter Package: 16 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 19 Y

Build 22:

Narida: 66643 Cain Trip Mines: bbb (Radius, Grenade Capacity, Radius)
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)
Elite Mercenary: b (Power Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 14 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 23:

Narida: 66653 Cain Trip Mines: bbb (Radius, Grenade Capacity, Radius)
Concussive Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Chill, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bbb (Grenade Capacity, Armor Damage, Grenade Capacity)
Elete Mercenary: ba (Power Damage, Power Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 14 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

FAILED TO MAKE THERMALS DISAPPEAR???

me3mp.01.talon_testing.md

Control notes:

Sames as above, but again I switched to gold so that I could freaking die.

This time not taking any fitness to start, since that's the main difference I saw between my builds and Bacon's. Working towards 66600 and then will start adding in the passive, which Bacon believes triggers it.

Build 24:

Narida: 10000

• Hydraulic Joints: 3 Y
• Warfighter Package: 5 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 8 Y

Build 25:

Narida: 20000

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 Y
• Warfighter Package: 6 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 9 Y

Build 26:

Narida: 30000

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 YES
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 27:

Narida: 40000
Cain Trip Mines: a (Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 YES
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 28:

Narida: 50000 Cain Trip Mines: aa (Damage, Armor Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 29:

Narida: 60000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 30:

Narida: 61000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 4 Y
• Warfighter Package: 6 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 9 Y

Build 31:

Narida: 62000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 5 Y
• Warfighter Package: 7 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 10 Y

Build 32:

Narida: 63000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 5 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 33:

Narida: 64000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Concussive Arrows: b (Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 6 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 34:

Narida: 65000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Concussive Arrows: ba (Grenade Capacity, Shock)

• Hydraulic Joints: 6 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 35:

Narida: 66000 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 8 Y
• Warfighter Package: 10 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 13 Y

Build 36:

Narida: 66100 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 8 Y
• Warfighter Package: 10 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 13 Y

Build 37:

Narida: 66200 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage) Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 9 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 38:

Narida: 66300 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage) Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 9 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 39:

Narida: 66400 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: b (Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 10 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 40:

Narida: 66500 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: ba (Grenade Capacity, Shred)

• Hydraulic Joints: 10 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 41:

Narida: 66600 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y (I originally wrote 16 here, but I think I just typoed?)
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y

Build 42:

Narida: 66610 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y

Build 43:

Narida: 66620 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y, 12 Y, 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y, 14 Y, 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y, 17 Y, 17 Y

Build 44:

Narida: 66630 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y

Build 45:

Narida: 66640 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)
Elite Mercenary: b (Power Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: 14 Y
• Grenade Capacity: 17 Y

Build 46:

Narida: 66650 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)
Elite Mercenary: ba (Power Damage, Power Damage)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

Build 47:

Narida: 66660 Cain Trip Mines: aaa (Damage, Armor Damage, Damage)
Grenade Capacity: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shock, Grenade Capacity)
Armor Piercing Arrows: bab (Grenade Capacity, Shred, Grenade Capacity)
Elite Mercenary: baa (Power Damage, Power Damage, Charge Generation)

• Hydraulic Joints: 12 Y
• Warfighter Package: SKIPPED
• Grenade Capacity: SKIPPED

JESUS FREAKING CHRIST AM I CRAZY? I can't get the freaking clips to go away!

me3mp.10.talon_notes.md

Builds from other people and whether they had thermal clip packs or not

TheEvilMage: 63566, LOST THERMAL CLIP PACKS J4mes: 66660, THERMAL CLIP PACKS FINE

Notes on my personal keybindings

NOTE: I have unbound USE and bound it to E in the coalesced.bin
If nothing is noted, it matches default
Changes listed are all changed in the IN GAME MENU

• Cover Turn: UNBOUND
• Swap Weapon: UNBOUND
• Order Rally: UNBOUND
• Order Squadmate 1/2: UNBOUND
• Order Attack: UNBOUND
• Quick Slot 5: 5, Middle Mouse Button
• Quick Slot 6: 6, C
• Quick Slot 7: 7, Thumb Mouse Button
• Quick Slot 8: 8, Z
• Voice Chat (HOLD): Tab, Numpad *
  • (NOTE: Numpad * is bound to a second thumb button on my mouse through the mouse drivers)

When I UNBIND Z as a SECONDARY binding for Quick Slot 8 in the IN GAME MENU before selecting Talon, I LOST THERMAL CLIP PACKS in the next game.

Setting Z as a secondary binding AFTER switching to Talon DID NOT return thermal clip packs.
Switching characters, resetting Z as a secondary binding, then switching back to Talon DID NOT return thermal clip packs.
RESTARTING GAME (with non-Talon character selected) DID NOT return thermal clip packs

So apparently I can consistently get the bug finally. WAT

hmmmmmmmmm

me3mp.11.demolisher_notes.md

Thank you, TheEvilMage

Demolisher 00100 (1 point in homings) has 1 grenade, not 2.

Demolisher 01100 (1 point each in homings and arcs) has 1 grenade still, not 2!

In comparison, Talon starts with 3 grenades!