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# Summary and Key Points re: How AI is eating Finance — with Mike Conover of Brightwave
# How AI is eating Finance — with Mike Conover of Brightwave
### How we can use AI for as a "partner in thought", losing faith in long context windows for improved reasoning, and why we should stop anthropomorphizing LLMs
### Jun 11, 2024
[https://www.latent.space/p/brightwave](https://www.latent.space/p/brightwave)
# Key Points from Mike Conover Interview on BrightWave and AI in Finance
## About BrightWave
- [00:42](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=42) BrightWave is a startup founded by Mike Conover, focusing on AI-driven financial analysis
- [04:51](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=291) Raised $6 million seed round led by Decibel, with participation from Point72 and Moonfire Ventures
- [05:38](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=338) Aims to expand individuals' ability to reason about the structure of the economy and markets using AI
## Product and Technology
- [09:36](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=576) Acts as a "partner in thought" for finance professionals
- [31:56](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=1916) Uses multiple AI subsystems for specific tasks rather than a single large model
- [35:49](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=2149) Employs RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation) with context-aware prompting
- [38:13](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=2293) Focuses on extracting structured information into knowledge graphs
- [20:04](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=1204) Prioritizes grounded reasoning and factuality in outputs
## Key Features
- [09:36](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=576) Can analyze complex financial scenarios and provide insights
- [31:27](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=1887) Handles temporality of data, crucial for financial analysis
- [34:00](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=2040) Balances private and public data sources in analysis
- [40:00](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=2400) Provides highly facetable, pivotable product interface
## Team and Hiring
- [06:07](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=367) Co-founded with Brandon Katara, who has experience in finance and deep learning
- [1:03:55](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3835) Hiring across AI, engineering, machine learning, and design roles
## Views on AI and Finance
- [50:42](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3042) Believes AI hedge funds may already exist in some form
- [55:51](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3351) Sees potential for AI in idea generation and thematic investing
- [56:02](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3362) Emphasizes human role in final decision-making and strategy alignment
## Open Source LLMs
- [57:44](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3464) Notes convergence in model behavior and diminishing returns on pretraining
- [59:20](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3560) Predicts future innovation in instruction tuning and fine-tuning data creation
- [57:44](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3464) Emphasizes importance of private evaluation datasets
## Industry Trends
- [58:43](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3523) Observes decreasing incentives for companies to train their own foundation models
- [1:02:43](https://youtu.be/Uz2Qpp-GOkE?t=3763) Predicts focus shifting to differentiating models through specific behavioral fine-tuning
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# Summary - Key Points from Mike Conover Interview on BrightWave and AI in Finance
## About BrightWave
- BrightWave is a startup founded by Mike Conover, focusing on AI-driven financial analysis
- Raised $6 million seed round led by Decibel, with participation from Point72 and Moonfire Ventures
- Aims to expand individuals' ability to reason about the structure of the economy and markets using AI
## Product and Technology
- Acts as a "partner in thought" for finance professionals
- Uses multiple AI subsystems for specific tasks rather than a single large model
- Employs RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation) with context-aware prompting
- Focuses on extracting structured information into knowledge graphs
- Prioritizes grounded reasoning and factuality in outputs
## Key Features
- Can analyze complex financial scenarios and provide insights
- Handles temporality of data, crucial for financial analysis
- Balances private and public data sources in analysis
- Provides highly facetable, pivotable product interface
## Team and Hiring
- Co-founded with Brandon Katara, who has experience in finance and deep learning
- Hiring across AI, engineering, machine learning, and design roles
## Views on AI and Finance
- Believes AI hedge funds may already exist in some form
- Sees potential for AI in idea generation and thematic investing
- Emphasizes human role in final decision-making and strategy alignment
## Open Source LLMs
- Notes convergence in model behavior and diminishing returns on pretraining
- Predicts future innovation in instruction tuning and fine-tuning data creation
- Emphasizes importance of private evaluation datasets
## Industry Trends
- Observes decreasing incentives for companies to train their own foundation models
- Predicts focus shifting to differentiating models through specific behavioral fine-tuning
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