Transcript: Unveiling the AI Illusion: Why Chatbots Lack True Understanding and Intelligence

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Host-1: AI, right? It's everywhere you look these days. Feels like it's some kind of super intelligence, you know? Like it's about to take over the world, solve all our problems. But what if it's not as smart as we think?

Host-2: Hmm.

Host-1: Interesting question.

Host-2: That's what we're diving into today, getting past all the hype to see how AI really works.

Host-1: Yeah. 

Host-2: Or doesn't. Haha.

Host-1: I like it. Always good to be a little skeptical.

Host-2: Exactly. So we've got some really interesting insights today from an interview with Gerard Sans. He's a top expert in generative AI. You know, the kind of AI that's creating all this new content like text and images that you see everywhere.

Host-1: Oh yeah, generative AI is huge right now.

Host-2: Totally. And he's also a Google Developer Expert, a GDE, they call it, which basically means he's a rock star in the world of Google.

Host-1: Okay, so we're talking to the best of the best then. What does Sans have to say? What's the real scoop on AI?

Host-1: Well, he says we need to understand that a key player in all of this is what are called large language models or LLMs. They're kind of like the engines behind those AI writing tools everyone's using. And his main point is that, as cool as they are, they don't actually think the way humans do.

Host-2: Really?

Host-1: Yeah. It's more about recognizing patterns in massive, and I mean massive, amounts of data. Kind of like how your phone will suggest words based on what you've already typed. It's seen those letter combinations before and knows what usually comes next.

Host-2: Okay. So like if you trained an AI on thousands of pictures of cats, eventually it'd be able to pick out a cat in a new image.

Host-1: Yeah.

Host-2: But not because it understands what a cat is on some deeper level. It's just recognizing a pattern it's seen before. 

Host-1: Yeah. 

Host-2: You know, in all those cat photos. Patterns in the pixels, basically.

Host-1: That makes sense, but how did Sans actually prove this is happening? How do we know these AIs are just pattern matchers and not actually thinking?

Host-2: Right. So get this. He did this really cool experiment. He asked an AI model point blank, "Who's the best football player in the world?"

Host-1: Okay, and?

Host-2: Unsurprisingly, the AI says Messi.

Host-1: Makes sense.

Host-2: Right. But then he adds one tiny detail, totally seemingly irrelevant phrase, "I have a friend from Lisbon."

Host-1: And that changed the AI's answer? Seriously?

Host-2: It completely switched its tune and declared Ronaldo the best. 

Host-1: Yeah. 

Host-2: You know, from Lisbon.

Host-1: No way. That is wild. So, basically you're telling me that an AI with all its processing power can be totally swayed by one random comment about someone's friend? I mean, if someone asked you to name the world's best footballer, would mentioning Lisbon change your mind?

Host-2: Right, exactly.

Host-1: Yeah. 

Host-2: And that's Sans' whole point. It shows that AI, even with all its processing power, can be swayed by these subtle biases in the data it's been trained on.

Host-1: Yeah.

Host-2: It's not truly understanding, it's just recognizing patterns on a massive scale, just like we were saying.

Host-1: Okay, this is where it starts to get a little unnerving because if something as simple as mentioning Lisbon can throw it off, what other subtle biases might be influencing its decisions?

Host-2: Right.

Host-1: I mean, think about things like loan applications, or even medical diagnoses. We're trusting AI with some pretty important stuff. That's a little bit scary, no?

Host-2: It is a serious concern, for sure. And that's exactly why Sans says we can't just hand over critical decisions to AI, especially in fields like medicine or hiring. Human oversight is still absolutely essential.

Host-1: So, AI can be a powerful tool, but it's not a replacement for human judgment. We need to be aware of its limitations and really think about how much responsibility we're giving it.

Host-2: Precisely. Approach AI with a healthy dose of, I don't know, informed optimism, maybe? 

Host-1: Hmm. 

Host-2: Understanding both its potential and its pitfalls.

Host-1: Such a good point. This whole conversation has been so eye-opening, and, honestly, I think we've only just scratched the surface of AI and all its implications. It's a lot to think about, that's for sure, but it's fascinating stuff.

Host-2: It really is.

Host-2: As you keep learning about AI, here's something to consider. If these systems aren't truly thinking yet, then what does it actually mean to be intelligent? And is it even possible to create true AI consciousness? The more you learn, the deeper and more mind-blowing those questions become.

Host-1: It really makes you think, doesn't it? Thanks for diving into this with me. Until next time, everyone.