halfak · February 9, 2015 18:00
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 [20:46:05] <harej>	 halfak: as a gentle reminder: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiProjects_and_Subject_Area_Activity_(English_Wikipedia)
 [20:46:42] <halfak>	 Harej, did you want me to look at the methods section?
 [20:46:50] <harej>	 I think that was what it was
 [20:46:58] <halfak>	 What's a longitudinal factor?
 [20:46:59] <harej>	 I am also interested in information about your quality heuristics!
 [20:47:24] <halfak>	 logitudinal factor == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censoring_(statistics) 
 [20:47:52] <harej>	 the longitudinal factors that affect wikiprojects mostly have to do with how some wikiprojects were active years ago even if they are not active now; differing levels of activity throughout a project's life. To keep everything even from a time scale perspective I am just doing things from July 1 to December 31
 [20:48:39] <halfak>	 I'm not sure this will help.  Many WikiProjects will be in different lifecycle stages between July 1 and Dec. 31
 [20:49:02] <halfak>	 Might we try to control for the project init date?
 [20:49:15] <halfak>	 Or maybe from the first time the project reached a certain level of activity?
 [20:49:16] <harej>	 Right; we're only interested in the projects that were *recently* active. We're not interested in a broad understanding of project activity.
 [20:49:22] <halfak>	 kk
 [20:49:35] <harej>	 For this study I am particularly focused on the present.
 [20:49:52] <harej>	 Or the very recent past, as it were.
 [20:50:09] <halfak>	 You state a hypothesis more broadly than these temporal bounds "hypothesis that the average number of edits per WikiProject talk page thread (as computed from talk page edit summaries) positively correlates with the number of subject-area article edits>"
 [20:51:02] <harej>	 Is there a way to state that in a way that is constrained to the temporal bounds I'm applying to the study?
 [20:51:37] <halfak>	 Not sure.  Might need to operationalize "recent". 
 [20:51:42] <Ironholds>	 ottomata, yo!
 [20:51:42] <halfak>	 What would such a correlation mean?
 [20:51:51] <halfak>	 Or rather, why would you hypothesize it?
 [20:52:50] <halfak>	 See an example of hypothesis rationales here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Asking_anonymous_editors_to_register/Study_1
 [20:53:13] <harej>	 Such a correlation might mean that WikiProjects play an active role in the development of articles by being a part of the article development workflow. Note that I don't actually consider this to be the case in most scenarios but it is a hypothesis I wish to test
 [20:53:44] <harej>	 In any case, I have to go to another meeting. Can you email your notes and questions to [email protected]?
 [20:53:56] <halfak>	 Sure.  So, hypothesis is that active wikiprojects will correlate with active subject areas.  
 [20:54:10] <halfak>	 I would propose a month-to-month measures of edit activity and WP activity.  
 [20:54:45] <halfak>	 You could still use the last N months (e.g. July - Dec)
 [20:54:54] <halfak>	 But you would look for a continued correlation over time. 
 [20:54:57] <harej>	 Sure.
 [20:55:00] <harej>	 Anyways, talk to you later!
	[20:46:05] <harej> halfak: as a gentle reminder: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiProjects_and_Subject_Area_Activity_(English_Wikipedia)
	[20:46:42] <halfak> Harej, did you want me to look at the methods section?
	[20:46:50] <harej> I think that was what it was
	[20:46:58] <halfak> What's a longitudinal factor?
	[20:46:59] <harej> I am also interested in information about your quality heuristics!
	[20:47:24] <halfak> logitudinal factor == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censoring_(statistics)
	[20:47:52] <harej> the longitudinal factors that affect wikiprojects mostly have to do with how some wikiprojects were active years ago even if they are not active now; differing levels of activity throughout a project's life. To keep everything even from a time scale perspective I am just doing things from July 1 to December 31
	[20:48:39] <halfak> I'm not sure this will help. Many WikiProjects will be in different lifecycle stages between July 1 and Dec. 31
	[20:49:02] <halfak> Might we try to control for the project init date?
	[20:49:15] <halfak> Or maybe from the first time the project reached a certain level of activity?
	[20:49:16] <harej> Right; we're only interested in the projects that were recently active. We're not interested in a broad understanding of project activity.
	[20:49:22] <halfak> kk
	[20:49:35] <harej> For this study I am particularly focused on the present.
	[20:49:52] <harej> Or the very recent past, as it were.
	[20:50:09] <halfak> You state a hypothesis more broadly than these temporal bounds "hypothesis that the average number of edits per WikiProject talk page thread (as computed from talk page edit summaries) positively correlates with the number of subject-area article edits>"
	[20:51:02] <harej> Is there a way to state that in a way that is constrained to the temporal bounds I'm applying to the study?
	[20:51:37] <halfak> Not sure. Might need to operationalize "recent".
	[20:51:42] <Ironholds> ottomata, yo!
	[20:51:42] <halfak> What would such a correlation mean?
	[20:51:51] <halfak> Or rather, why would you hypothesize it?
	[20:52:50] <halfak> See an example of hypothesis rationales here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Asking_anonymous_editors_to_register/Study_1
	[20:53:13] <harej> Such a correlation might mean that WikiProjects play an active role in the development of articles by being a part of the article development workflow. Note that I don't actually consider this to be the case in most scenarios but it is a hypothesis I wish to test
	[20:53:44] <harej> In any case, I have to go to another meeting. Can you email your notes and questions to [email protected]?
	[20:53:56] <halfak> Sure. So, hypothesis is that active wikiprojects will correlate with active subject areas.
	[20:54:10] <halfak> I would propose a month-to-month measures of edit activity and WP activity.
	[20:54:45] <halfak> You could still use the last N months (e.g. July - Dec)
	[20:54:54] <halfak> But you would look for a continued correlation over time.
	[20:54:57] <harej> Sure.
	[20:55:00] <harej> Anyways, talk to you later!