ISC vs. MIT

ISC.md

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Source: http://opensource.org/licenses/ISC

MIT.md

The MIT License (MIT)

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Source: http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT

@spacetoast - You wouldn't need to sublicense a work for someone else to use it. That other person would also have a license to the "original" work under the terms of the ISC license -- just like you have permission under that license. That does make it a little more confusing when you're combining an ISC licensed work into a distributed product, but so long as you make that clear in a notice or attribution file, you should be fine. So, in short, it's a functional equivalent of the MIT or BSD.

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

You don't need this line, since if you remove the copyright notice, you will lose the rights that the copyright owner has given you. This line as no point. Also, substantial portions of the Software is totally vague and can be interpreted in a lot of different ways.

MIT also explicitly allows sublicensing, whereas ISC does not.

BSD doesn't explicitly allows sublicensing, but you can do it as long as what is said in the license is respected. Same for ISC and MIT. The MIT use a lot of superfluous language to explicitly give you rights that the ISC would also give you implicitly, but no one would put these implicit rights in doubt. For example, both license have a similar sentence:

Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted

This implicitly protects you from people who own patents and would put them into your code. They can't sue you, because since they've put their patented code under this license, as the copyright owner, they give you the right to use it.

ISC is a very simple license. If you like it, you can also take a look at the 0-clause BSD license. It's the same license, but with provided that the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies removed. It gives aways you code, without requiring that future users keep the copyright notice.

You wouldn't need to sublicense a work for someone else to use it.

I never claimed you would.

That does make it a little more confusing when you're combining an ISC licensed work into a distributed product, but so long as you make that clear in a notice or attribution file, you should be fine.

That confusion was my entire point - explicitly allowing sublicensing as long as you keep the notice == less confusing and less scary for random devs.
There is also the use case where one may want to take your work, and have their own version (think gogs vs whatever the fork's name is), but say they prefer BSD-3. You can do that with both licenses, but one of them is more intimidating to non-lawyers.

BSD doesn't explicitly allows sublicensing, but you can do it as long as what is said in the license is respected.

A lawyer knows this.
A programmer with basically no knowledge of legalities does not.
As I mentioned, explicitly allowing it takes away the "but what if someone does mind" anxieties some developers may face when wanting to sublicense.

https://choosealicense.com/licenses/isc/ - same thing

Looks like ISC is more permissive. It doesn't require you to add copy of the license once you copy the "subject".

So for example:
I will create the source code of the program and documentation for it. And then someone will take just the documentation, for example.

Then:

• according to MIT, this is "associated documentation files" and "substantial portions of the Software". So "copyright notice and permission notice shall be included" by him.
• according to ISC, this is a modified version of my software (the modification consists in removing a part of my program) and thus in this type of modified copy he still has to "provide the copyright notice and permission notice".
  (or: according to ISC, this is the "used" version of my software (not fully used, but still used) and therefore in this type of used copy of my software he still has to "provide the copyright notice and permission notice").

My question is, is this the correct interpretation?

My opinion, this is all bullisht. Nobody owns ideas, they exist and are discovered.

Money rules everything around me

It is better to not buy-in so much to their crap (no pun intended). Natural resources is all we have, use them wisely.

My opinion, this is all bullisht. Nobody owns ideas, they exist and are discovered.

Money rules everything around me

It is better to not buy-in so much to their crap (no pun intended). Natural resources is all we have, use them wisely.

Yeah, no one owns gold. It exists and is discovered.