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- Add-on SDK: | |
Everything but simple to use. Requires command-line interaction to build an add-on for Firefox... | |
Needs to open Firefox with another Profile... Really? | |
[Jeff] one design goal of the SDK is that it should integrate easily with existing development | |
environments, hence the command-line interface. This is a bias of ours. I take it you think we | |
should ship a GUI tool similar to, say, Google's AppEngine? As well, we have another goal for restart-less testing, hope to ship soon. | |
- Add-on Builder: | |
Good idea, but again, requires an add-on to be installed so devs can test their add-ons without | |
restart(s). | |
[Jeff] the add-on helper is a 1-time install, and restart-less. Slightly more start-up friction | |
than Opera, but to me not a deal-breaker. YMMV. | |
- Documentation (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/developers/docs/sdk/1.2/dev-guide/addon-development/about.html): | |
Difficult. Can't search? Very few real world examples/code samples. | |
How do I make a simple add-on with a button in the main browser window opening an add-on popup | |
with some HTML content inside? No idea. Can't find any answer nor code sample for that. The | |
documentation is so uninviting I've given up every single time actually building something for | |
Firefox. I would think Firefox/Mozilla should make things easy for me, as I'm willing to give it my | |
time to build add-ons, for free. | |
[Jeff] All good points which I will forward on to the team. I take it you either didn't work | |
through or didn't find the 2 example projects in the docs? Also, we are currently considering | |
moving docs to MDN where they would benefit from that site's search functionality. This would also | |
de-couple publishing new docs from the SDK release cycle. | |
By contrast, in Opera (somewhat similar in Safari): | |
- Nothing to download/install. It all just works. All the developer has to do to use/test his | |
Extension is to drag and drop his "config.xml" file onto the browser: the extension will be | |
installed and loaded. No restart required. "It just works". | |
- Amazing documentation, clearly explained, and with great, simple guides on how to actually make | |
extensions (ex: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/hands-on-building-an-opera-extension/) | |
- Opera devs ready to help (not just on IRC). | |
[Jeff] where ( besides IRC ) did you go to look for help? What happened? What sort of help did you | |
get from Opera? | |
Basically I think Mozilla/Firefox should work on making Add-ons simple and effortless to do. It | |
takes way too much involvement for the developer to get to "see" his stuff work in Firefox - while | |
it takes mere seconds to start seeing things appear in both Opera and Safari (basically, just a | |
drag and drop, and you're seeing your extension "working" in your browser already). | |
I want to be able to code my add-ons locally, with my (desktop) code editor of choice, without | |
having to restart my browser at anytime, nor having to install any extra add-on. | |
[Jeff] This is an excellent statement of goal! I am going to shamelessly steal this, and as such | |
owe you a beer should we ever cross paths. | |
There are trade-offs to how Opera/Safari/Chrome do extensions vs Firefox. In particular Firefox | |
extensions allow you access to the entire Mozilla API, not just a sand-boxed JS API. The SDK and | |
Builder are an attempt to close the gap of usability especially for the relatively simple types of | |
extension capabilities afforded by the other browsers but as you point out we have a ways to go. | |
Thanks for the comments! |
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