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20151120 16:37:49 < DerRidda> Adminds discuss: We should probably change the main channel's mode to only allow registered users.
20151120 16:38:57 < beansmyname> I'm comfortable with that. How will that affect the webchat?
20151120 16:40:24 < DerRidda> beansmyname: It has a checkbox to use authorization.
20151120 16:40:40 < DerRidda> so it would work and the text above the chat could tell users to do just that.
20151120 16:44:59 < DerRidda> I will try it out.
20151120 16:45:06 < beansmyname> Are there more idiots arriving than usual?
20151120 16:45:37 < DerRidda> Yes.
20151120 16:45:50 < DerRidda> And frankly, the web client is part of the problem.
20151120 16:45:59 < beansmyname> We must be ranking higher in "Steam IRC" searches. :)
20151120 16:46:19 < DerRidda> Obscurity keeps at least the lazy and/or stupid shitbags out.
20151120 16:46:51 < beansmyname> But #steamlug is so boring most of the time. At least they liven the place up a bit.
20151120 16:47:34 < DerRidda> As a channel op I do like it being boring so I don' need to do anything.
20151120 16:47:39 < beansmyname> ha
20151120 16:50:32 < HER0_01> Gosh. I'm down with that.
20151120 16:50:58 < beansmyname> Well, good, because DerRidda is a man of action.
20151120 16:51:06 < HER0_01> Oh, I see that
20151120 16:51:29 < HER0_01> Higher in the rankings than first?
20151121 10:55:37 <@Cheeseness> FWIW I'd rather see the channel go into moderated mode with manual +v than +r
20151121 10:56:19 < DerRidda> That's in essence even harsher I think.
20151121 10:56:37 < DerRidda> And manual overhead is annoying.
20151121 10:58:10 < DerRidda> And so far only Bronsky is throwing a fit and I'm fine with losing that can't be arsed to enter a password.
20151121 11:30:10 <@Cheeseness> Do what you guys feel you must
20151122 17:25:09 < DerRidda> johndrinkwater: Why did you set -r on the main channel?
20151122 19:47:09 <@johndrinkwater> oh, it seems I missed the conversation where we want it on +r?
20151122 19:47:15 <@johndrinkwater> why in gods name would we do that
20151122 19:48:55 <@johndrinkwater> it just feels against the nature of an open channel for linux gamers, and yeah, I know it is easy to register
20151122 19:49:31 < beansmyname> "for linux gamers" and the occasional non-linux asshat that comes in asking for keys, etc, etc.
20151122 19:49:32 <@johndrinkwater> we can already ban problem makers, and temporarily set more strict modes when influx in greater. thats my view
20151122 19:50:01 < beansmyname> Well, things go from someone's view to someone's change pretty quickly around here.
20151122 19:50:54 < beansmyname> DerRidda did call out for discussion before making that change.
20151122 19:50:55 <@johndrinkwater> which is why I reverted that (I thought it was just an accidentally mode being left on)
20151122 19:51:03 < beansmyname> Ahh...I see now.
20151122 19:51:24 < beansmyname> Guess I missed where it went -r
20151122 19:51:53 <@johndrinkwater> and I missed when it went +r :^)
20151122 19:51:57 < DerRidda> The problem with most common ways to ban trolls here is that it is entirely useless unless you use unnecessarily broad masks, which will probably also hurt innocent people.
20151122 19:51:57 < beansmyname> Dunno. There wasn't a discussion/consensus thing for it, just kind of happened.
20151122 19:51:58 < beansmyname> lol
20151122 19:52:15 < DerRidda> You uttered consent beansmyname.
20151122 19:52:25 * kisak gasps
20151122 19:52:28 < beansmyname> Fair enough
20151122 19:53:02 * johndrinkwater touches beansmyname’s butt
20151122 19:53:18 * beansmyname giggles
20151122 19:54:51 < DerRidda> unpopular opinion: I would happily go -r if we removed the webchat and replaced it with a nice how-to on getting an irc client.
20151122 20:00:27 < beansmyname> Is the webchat where most of the asshats come from?
20151122 20:02:11 < DerRidda> The lazy ones that just come to beg for free stuff or troll cheaply.
20151122 20:02:24 < beansmyname> Could the bot provide more useful functionality here, like auto-CoC'ing (based on keywords or sth)?
20151122 20:02:44 < beansmyname> that was just a random thought, not entirely related.
20151122 20:02:52 < DerRidda> And there's some clown who apparently isn't using it who just posted some unsolicited giveaway to hardware that's fishy as fudge.
20151122 20:05:03 < beansmyname> It's johndrinkwater. Trying to show how +r isn't a deterrent. :p
20151122 20:06:41 <@johndrinkwater> DerRidda, not even sure they come via our site chat; or do you mean block webchat clients? that is also a vague option
20151122 20:06:50 < DerRidda> Nah.
20151122 20:07:49 < DerRidda> IRC just isn't really equipped to deal with the needs of 21st century interwebs BS.
20151122 20:09:13 <@johndrinkwater> kinda. really depends on the ircd and services, you can do a lot to reduce the BS down to just.. key beggers
20151122 20:09:44 <@johndrinkwater> has that person returned at all since the first day?
20151122 20:10:19 < kisak> choki came by drunk more than once
20151122 20:10:45 <@johndrinkwater> we get drunk people in channel a lot :\
20151122 20:10:47 * johndrinkwater is one
20151122 20:10:53 * beansmyname is another
20151122 20:22:31 < kisak> the first time choki appeared, the only issue was the 5 lines to say any one idea
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