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Deathloop spoilery Q&A + theories
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Deathloop spoilers ahead (mostly earlier-game stuff in this section) | |
* Why do only Cole and Julianna remember? | |
Cole and Julianna aren't the only ones who remember. 2-Bit also | |
remembers, and he's made out of part of Charlie's brain. So why | |
doesn't Charlie remember? Wenjie's lab has at least one note where | |
she explicitly calls out that Cole and Julianna remember the loops | |
and seem to have gained incredible competence since the beginning of | |
the loop, and other dialogue/notes indicate that everyone clearly | |
expected to be able to remember the loop. There's another NPC you can | |
encounter who remembers the loop and is desperate to get out, but I | |
never finished her side quest... The answer is that at a minimum, all | |
the Visionaries used to remember the loop, and most likely *everyone* | |
did. Over time they all stopped remembering with the exception of | |
Julianna, 2-bit, and (sort of) Cole. | |
* Why and how did they forget? | |
Julianna makes at least one reference to the idea that Cole forgot due | |
to some sort of trauma caused by the loop, so his brain effectively | |
hit reset as a coping mechanism. The ending gives one possible | |
explanation for how this might have happened. Another bit of Julianna | |
dialogue (and maybe a note, I can't remember) explains this: Once | |
someone in the loop becomes bored enough they begin to lose their | |
ability to remember the events of the loop, settling into their | |
repeated patterns, unable to move forward. Once this happens the only | |
thing that could possibly knock them out of this pattern is something | |
that moves outside of the loop - so Cole, Julianna, 2-Bit or <other | |
NPC>. We know from dialogue that at various points in time Cole and | |
Julianna have killed all of the visionaries (though not all in the | |
same iteration, probably), but the visionaries are still stuck in | |
their patterns. So, the answer is that they eventually ran out of | |
things to do, or grew frustrated with their lack of progress in their | |
personal efforts (something you see a lot of in the in-game dialogue | |
and lore - these people are all in bad shape), or otherwise ended up | |
forgetting. If you forget the loop you also lose everything you've | |
infused except Slabs, so they also had no physical evidence of past | |
iterations. Another bit of Julianna dialogue mentions that early on | |
Frank was recording new songs over many iterations and that she and | |
Cole liked some of those songs a lot. Now he plays the same songs on | |
the radio each loop and the audio logs you find indicate that he's in | |
no state to record new music. Charlie and Fia similarly seem to be in | |
a very bad state mentally and creatively. It seems likely that this | |
stress/frustration built up over time and eventually led to them | |
forgetting without leaving that stress behind, so they're all | |
miserable. | |
* What's with the clones? | |
No doubt you've seen the Wenjie clones wandering around her | |
laboratory. Similarly, we encounter duplicate Coles (with different | |
clothing, hair and even scars...) and the Juliannas we fight in the | |
four time periods are duplicates of the real Julianna we talk to on | |
the radio. All of these clones are visitors from other timelines | |
(likely past or future iterations of the loop) who temporarily have | |
shown up in the current iteration of the loop. All those weird wobbly | |
rainbow objects you harvest Residuum from are also visitors. The | |
source of these visitors seems to be a breach/disturbance in | |
the "Anomaly" located on the island that is being used to create and | |
maintain the Loop. Wenjie appears to be intentionally disturbing the | |
anomaly to conduct her experiments, which is why some lore text | |
mentions that her clones will all vanish by the evening. There's also | |
a little side quest where you disturb the loop in order to summon | |
visitors. The duplicate Coles are likely visitors from other loop | |
iterations or timelines (the differences in clothing and hair suggest | |
alternate timelines). Since they all have the same general goals some | |
of them interact with you directly to help you out. It's possible | |
that some of them are visiting you on purpose, but it's not clear | |
whether that's possible or just something the game writers did to | |
make things work. Game design, okay? | |
* What's with all the weird floating text no one else can see? | |
I never found a single scrap of lore or dialogue to suggest what's | |
going on with it, other than Cole's occasional voiced speculation. | |
Seems like it's probably messages from past Coles, but your guess is | |
as good as mine. | |
Later-game plot and lore spoilers follow! | |
* What's with the weird bunkers and spy equipment? | |
The military had a base on the island for a while and were performing | |
experiments on the anomaly, but eventually they pulled out because | |
they were unable to produce any useful results. The spies seem to | |
have either been monitoring the military or monitoring the AEON | |
project, but it's not clear which. Wenjie wants into all these | |
bunkers in order to access the military's research files and | |
equipment. Cole was involved in this research project, which is why | |
he's mentioned in so much of that early lore and why he's on the | |
island at all - he was central to the whole AEON effort and the | |
existence of the loop. | |
* Why was Cole in an asylum? Why did Egor break him out and sail to | |
the island with him? | |
Near the end of the military's stay on the island, Cole piloted a | |
vehicle for an experiment that went haywire. The result was that Cole | |
ended up trapped in a version of the loop (apparently for ~17 years), | |
reliving the same day over and over. It's not clear whether he was | |
alone or where he was during this loop or how he broke out, but in | |
the end he would have seemed like a raving madman to anyone who | |
wasn't involved in the military research project. At some point Egor | |
encountered him and realized that the things Cole described were | |
possible and took him to the island, leading towards the creation of | |
Aeon and the loop. | |
* What's happening outside the loop? | |
Some documents (written by Wenjie, I think?) mention that they're | |
uncertain what is happening outside the loop and that the | |
consequences of it could be catastrophic, but they activated the loop | |
anyway. Based on various bits of lore and in-world evidence, the most | |
likely answer is that the world is progressing as normal outside the | |
loop. In particular, Egor is receiving radio transmissions of some | |
sort from outside, and the military/spy documents appear to indicate | |
that none of them encountered Cole after the experiment - so his | |
personal loop happened while time progressed in the outside world. | |
The same is almost certainly happening here. Egor's claims to be | |
communicating with "the future" make it likely that the transmissions | |
he's receiving are from after the beginning of the loop, otherwise | |
they would seem pretty mundane. | |
OK seriously though, ending spoilers ahead | |
* What's with Cole and Julianna? | |
Julianna is Cole's daughter. One of the military personnel on the | |
island during the experiments was her mother, and after the | |
experiment went wrong (and Cole went missing) she left the island, | |
gave birth to Julianna, raised her, and then died. At some point | |
Julianna tracked Cole down and then joined Aeon to follow him to the | |
island. She's got a grudge over dad leaving her mom to die, among | |
other things! | |
* How did Cole forget pt. 2 | |
During the ending sequence it's revealed that Cole has gotten to the | |
point of breaking the loop at least once before - killing all the | |
other visionaries and then reaching Julianna. He didn't break the | |
loop, though. What's implied to have happened: After reaching | |
Julianna, Cole was tricked into killing her and for some reason he | |
didn't kill himself afterwards to fully break the loop (*all* the | |
Visionaries have to die) - maybe he was afraid he'd die for good, | |
maybe he was just too upset or something else happened. In the end, | |
the loop reset, and that might be what caused him to forget | |
everything. Depending on how your ending plays out, this can happen | |
again. When we speak with Julianna at the end she says that the | |
previous time this happened things were different, so Cole isn't | |
repeating past events exactly, he's just made it to the point of | |
breaking the loop again. Since this is the second time, Julianna is | |
certain that the ol' antique Dishonored dueling pistols will fire | |
successfully - this isn't the first time they've been fired. | |
* What's happening outside the loop pt. 2 | |
If you break the loop the brief ending sequence shows us a glimpse of | |
the outside world, and it's real fucked up. Time has clearly been | |
passing since the beginning of the loop and it's possible that the | |
existence of the loop was doing damage outside like Wenjie suspected. | |
Most likely there are still living humans out there though given that | |
Egor was receiving radio transmissions from outside, but it's hard to | |
know how long the loop was operating for. Everyone is definitely in | |
for a rough time now that they're out of the loop. (Did the others | |
even survive? Who knows.) | |
* What's with the post-ending stinger dialogue and those weird vibes? | |
Look, they were in the loop for a long time and they didn't want to | |
get bored. Don't think about it too hard. |
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