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[11:54:52]  <prometheanfire>	should the puppetdb-termini line be puppetdb-terminus in http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/latest/connect_puppet_master.html ?
[11:55:41]  <prometheanfire>	need to know for packaging puppetdb and puppet-server (unliess db access is built into puppet-server)
[11:55:46] Mode is +cnt
[11:57:04]  <prometheanfire>	also, are there instructions for connecting puppet-db to puppet-server? the link provided doesn't show
[11:58:53]  <daenney>	So those are usage questions and should be directed to #puppet, not #puppet-dev
[11:59:14]  <prometheanfire>	the first question is not
[11:59:19]  <prometheanfire>	I think it's a doc problem
[11:59:27]  <daenney>	That's still a usage question
[11:59:34]  <daenney>	And it's not, the package has been renamed
[11:59:37]  <prometheanfire>	I can find no refrence to puppetdb-termini as a package
[11:59:38]  <daenney>	Which is in the migration guide
[12:01:28]  <daenney>	And even docs questions, as long as they relate to the usage instrucitons of Puppet are for #puppet. If this was about a docstring in the code base itself then maybe
[12:01:32]  <prometheanfire>	still can't find any refrence to it, where are the sources so I can package it?
[12:05:54]  <prometheanfire>	current instructions say to enable the repo and install puppetdb-termini
[12:06:01]  <prometheanfire>	I cannot find that package in the repos
[12:06:04]  <prometheanfire>	https://apt.puppetlabs.com/
[12:08:08]  <Elyscape>	try puppetdb-terminus instead
[12:08:21]  <Elyscape>	https://apt.puppetlabs.com/pool/wheezy/main/p/puppetdb/
[12:08:25]  <prometheanfire>	that's what I thought
[12:08:54]  <prometheanfire>	was just looking for confirmation, but there's nothing I can find anywhere that states puppetdb-termini == puppetdb-terminus
[12:09:03]  <daenney>	Noooooo
[12:09:10]  <daenney>	puppetdb-terminus doesn't work with Puppetdb 3
[12:09:28]  <daenney>	In order to use PuppetDB 3 and actually get hte PuppetDB 3 packages you need to enable the Puppet Collections 1 repository
[12:09:49]  <daenney>	Whcih again, is a USAGE question/problem, and comes as a consequence of people not reading the documentation
[12:09:52]  <daenney>	So here: https://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/puppetlabs_package_repositories.html#apt-based-systems
[12:11:45]  <Elyscape>	indeed
[12:11:55]  <prometheanfire>	ok packaged here https://yum.puppetlabs.com/el/7/PC1/x86_64/
[12:12:09]  <prometheanfire>	so, where's the source?
[12:12:13]  <prometheanfire>	I need that to package
[12:12:18]  <prometheanfire>	and that is not a user question
[12:14:12]  <Elyscape>	https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetdb/blob/master/contrib/gem/puppetdb-terminus.gemspec
[12:14:22]  <Elyscape>	it's a ruby gem
[12:14:24]  <daenney>	It would also be available here for example: https://apt.puppetlabs.com/pool/wheezy/PC1/p/puppetdb/
[12:14:40]  <Elyscape>	built from the puppetdb repository
[12:14:59]  <prometheanfire>	so there's no published gem for puppetdb-termini? only puppetdb-terminus?
[12:15:13]  <prometheanfire>	sourcing from a gem is easy for us
[12:15:32]  <Elyscape>	I don't think puppetdb-termini is a thing
[12:16:10]  <Elyscape>	the puppetdb termini are provided by the puppetdb-terminus package/gem
[12:16:24]  <Elyscape>	but puppetdb-termini isn't something that actually exists
[12:16:37]  <Elyscape>	here's more on the puppetdb-terminus gem: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetdb/tree/master/contrib/gem
[12:16:48]  <Elyscape>	and the source is here: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetdb/tree/master/puppet
[12:17:06]  <prometheanfire>	https://rubygems.org/gems/puppetdb-terminus/ hasn't been updated :P
[12:17:07]  <daenney>	Eh, puppetdb-termini exists just fine, it's just a package name
[12:17:32]  <prometheanfire>	so it doesn't exist in anything but name?
[12:17:34]  <Elyscape>	oh hey, that's the new name
[12:17:39]  <Elyscape>	ELI SMART
[12:17:45]  <daenney>	Very good
[12:17:52]  <daenney>	Now we're getting somewhere
[12:18:18]  <prometheanfire>	should I wait til the gem is properly published?
[12:19:47]  <prometheanfire>	packaging puppet seems to be going the same way chef went, meaning impossible
[12:20:15]  <daenney>	Why do you even need to package it yourself?
[12:20:26]  <prometheanfire>	I'm packaging it for gentoo
[12:20:37]  <prometheanfire>	also, on the infra team in gentoo
[12:20:48]  <prometheanfire>	we want to use puppetdb
[12:21:02]  <prometheanfire>	already using puppet/hiera, but want to expand it
[12:21:39]  <daenney>	So, if you're on Puppet 3 you can stick to PuppetDB 2.3.x until the packaging issues have been figured out
[12:22:10]  <prometheanfire>	I'd rather not have to go through a migration packaging wise
[12:22:41]  <prometheanfire>	so I'll probably wait
[12:22:44]  <daenney>	ken_barber might know how the puppetdb-termini thing is supposed to work