#cucumber IRC fragment: team thought the app could only be tested manually

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19:03 <#cucumber> cheezyworking with a team close to my home
19:05 <#cucumber> cheezywe are wrapping cukes around a telephone queueing and routing system
19:05 <#cucumber> cheezywicked stuff
19:05 <#cucumber> aslakhellesoy_wow cool!
19:05 <#cucumber> aslakhellesoy_ui or headless cukes?
19:06 <#cucumber> cheezyit's all headless
19:06 <#cucumber> aslakhellesoy_i like headless - much faster
19:06 <#cucumber> cheezyi wrote a c layer that simulates the hardware and a ruby lib with ffi
19:06 <#cucumber> cheezyand a dsl over the lib
19:07 <#cucumber> cheezythe app doesn't really have a head - just c++
19:09 <#cucumber> apdewiscan I swap jobs with you cheezy that all sounds more interesting ...
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19:10 <#cucumber> cheezyapdewis: it is interesting - team was only doing manual testing prior to my contract
19:10 <#cucumber> aslakhellesoy_sounds terrific!
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19:11 <#cucumber> aslakhellesoy_what benefits have you seen since you introduced cucumber and your ffi stuff?
19:11 <#cucumber> cheezythe team didn't have a good requirements system
19:11 <#cucumber> cheezyand all of the testing was manual - so very laborous
19:12 <#cucumber> cheezywe now have a product owner defining an initial set of scenarios
19:12 <#cucumber> cheezyand testers helping him fill in the gaps
19:12 <#cucumber> cheezywriting tests before we begin coding
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19:13 <#cucumber> cheezyhelping team get clear vision of what is to be delivered (definition of done)
19:13 <#cucumber> cheezytesters are still learning ruby - i've only been there four weeks
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19:15 <#cucumber> cheezybenefits - helping find defects while still in development
19:15 <#cucumber> cheezyteam thought the app could only be tested manually
19:15 <#cucumber> apdewischeezy: Ruby seems pretty straight forwared at least, I only started learning not that long ago
19:17 <#cucumber> cheezyI've had good success helping testers learn ruby - i agree it is straight forward