Hello everyone. With Ceb drama getting so much traction, I decided to do what any rational person would do in this situation - download all public matches of all professional dota 2 players and then scan the all-chat for any racism or naughty naughty words, so the j͇͕͙ͣu͒͆s̼̠͍̖̮̳ͮ̃t̫̙̯͎ͬ̇̊̄iͨć̼͓ͬͨ͑ͣe͉̜̫̱̠̘̋̒ͅ can be upheld once and for all.
There are several nuances that stood in my way.
- Many professionals' pubs are kept private.
- Most of the trashtalk happens in ally chat, which isn't saved.
- Some of the trashtalk happens over mic... which again, isn't saved.
- Some of the trashtalk happens on smurf accounts, which I did not include here.
- Lots of horrible racism happens in non-English, making it hard to look for.
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This is the reason I excluded Chinese from the search cause I don't speak a word of it.
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You will see less trashtalk from any non-English speakers for that reason.
- Some of the horrible racism is misspelled, making it harder to detect.
- Downloading games of all the dota pros would take me about 2 weeks. By that time, this drama won't be as fresh.
- That's why I downloaded the matches of the arguably most relevant teams - the ones going to Epicenter Major. And a few extras, I guess.
- Holy shit that's a lot of matches. Around ~120,000 matches were downloaded and cached, or about 25GB of data. And we're only 10% through the pro player list...
- I have the entirety of chat for those matches. I could keep going and get the other 850 players, and even extract some of the more juicy trashtalk like "I hope you and your family get cancer"... but we'll save that for later.
My findings, without any particular order, are below. I tried to be as unbiased in my judgement as I could. This list focuses on the more race-oriented insults. As per the points above, this is but the tip of the iceberg, but it's something to behold.
Pick up your pitchforks and enjoy the ride.
I harbor absolutely no ill will towards any of the players. The point of this post is to, instead, exaggerate the pettiness and show how overblown the current drama is. My personal comment is at the very bottom.
1788 games.
Just usual trashtalk. Nothing too big.
3813 games.
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Match chat: 2936661536
33: U FKCING MONKEY RUSSIAN DOG
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Match chat: 2432131766
33: gypsy boy
Other than that it's all "trash", "clown", "cancer", "moron", lots of that usual stuff, but nothing big.
1562 games
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Match chat: 3777860340
Saksa: end the fuicking game
Saksa: sea mongоloids
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Match chat: 3662085055
Saksa: russian dogs
Saksa: keep plaguing this server
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Match chat: 3404649110
Saksa: ye well ur carry isnt a total mongоloid
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Match chat: 3036473431
Saksa: god i hate russians so much
61 games.
Very few games, occasional salt flow, "morons", "retards", trashtalk - but nothing big.
No games available.
1443 games.
Very little trashtalk.
48 games.
Very few games, nothing interesting.
2531 games.
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Match chat: 4388430015
Boxi: u mongоloid
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Match chat: 4103316915
Boxi: im tired of having retard russian in my team
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Match chat: 3757453608
Boxi: i mean
Boxi: playing with2 russian retards
Boxi: nty
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Match chat: 3475622057
Boxi: my slark is a fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 3343961445
Boxi: ur russian dog
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Match chat: 3281962128
Boxi: can trash russians
Boxi: go play
Boxi: russian server
3958 games.
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Match chat: 3418383006
iNSaNia: CHOKE ON UR TINY RUSSIAN DICK
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Match chat: 2694641241
iNSaNia: sd is a jew
iNSaNia: report him
Other than that, despite the large amount of games, it's mostly the usual "cancer"/"clowns" etc.
289 games.
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Match chat: 3307022176
Taiga: DOGS
Bablodin_: )
Taiga: My name is
Taiga: Putin
Taiga: I request
Taiga: Not having russian in dotka
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Match chat: 3306626748
Taiga: Some ruski rage
Taiga: xddd
Taiga: hahahaha
Taiga: FLAMe ON RUSSIAN
Taiga: GOBACK TO YOUR SERVER
Taiga: DOG SHIT
224 games.
Nothing special.
44 games.
Again, nothing.
160 games.
Calling people cancer/shit/trash, but nothing special.
2613 games.
Man's an angel. Almost 3k games visible, the worst thing he said in all-chat is "drunk".
No visible pub games whatsoever.
2963 games.
It seems that Ana went through quite some dark times around 2016-2017.
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Match chat: 2816939224
ana: calm down niggеrs
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Match chat: 2405668255
ana: indians are loser
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Match chat: 2354818637
ana: you dumb сhink
(...)
ana: сhink > foreigner
ana: ye?
ana: actually NOT
ana: dumb chineses hit
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Match chat: 2326867824
ana: dumb china man
ana: atleast indians can make good curyr
ana: what about you?
ana: what about hcina
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Match chat: 2319368273
ana: im a сhink manlet
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Match chat: 2074500616
ana: you dumb сhink
(...)
ana: dumb ogok
(...)
ana: dumb gooks b like
(...)
ana: dumb gook wanna talk
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Match chat: 2071412464
ana: niggеr
Other than that, just a bunch of trashtalk/telling people to kill themselves.
2771 games.
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Match chat: 3203490421
Topson: cuz hes mongоloid
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Match chat: 2341642249
Topson: fucking russians dogs hope they die with cacner
Topson: ifucking russain dogs i hope they die with cancer (repeated 8x)
Other than that just trashtalk.
4973 games. (!!)
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Match chat: 4287819674
Ceb: u fucking mongоloids
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Match chat: 4022655563
Ceb: this oracle mongоloid
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Match chat: 3573199990
Ceb: stunning me isnt gonna win u the game
Ceb: Xd
Ceb: mongоloid
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Match chat: 3549371916
Ceb: mongоloids
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Match chat: 3216755481
Ceb: gj u fucking mongоloids
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Match chat: 3182303794
Ceb: u fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 3161856192
Ceb: u have to be
Ceb: the biggest
Anonymous: WAHT A PLAYER
Ceb: mongоloid
Ceb: i have ever seen blue
Ceb: ur whole team is dying u fucking mongоloid
Ceb: Stop chasing me
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Match chat: 3161802648
Ceb: mongоloids vs riki
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Match chat: 3119472711
Ceb: our three players
Ceb: r mongоloids
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Match chat: 3079397056
Ceb: my team
Ceb: is a bunch
Ceb: of mongоloids
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Match chat: 3030538235
Ceb: kill urself
Ceb: u fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 2969706495
Ceb: this fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 2706834618
Ceb: this player
Ceb: is like
Ceb: a mongоloid
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Match chat: 2684906673
Ceb: literally 4 mongоloids
(...)
Ceb: i have 4 mongоloids
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Match chat: 2470748088
Ceb: my bm
Ceb: is a mongоloid
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Match chat: 2378913840
Ceb: ues a mongоloid
Ceb: ur a mongоloid
Other than that, casual trashtalk.
33 games.
Nothing.
Literally no games public.
210 games.
Not much to see here except little trashtalk.
232 games.
Again, mostly just bunch of trashtalk but nothing big.
22 games.
Literally nothing
2096 games.
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Match chat: 2981828125
Yapz0r: 2 niggеrs
Yapz0r: camping me
Other than that it's just some trashtalk.
6 games.
Nothing.
2036 games.
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Match chat: 3151860365
Frost: ur fucking russians
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Match chat: 2731636760
Frost: can they just secure russians to their servers
Frost: its jus a pain for everyone involved
Other than that, calling people "russian" a lot, but not directly insulting.
1723 games.
Some trashtalk here and there, but it's mostly "moron"/"trash".
3332 games.
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Match chat: 3696059858
hairy_freak: report this mongоloid juggernaut
hairy_freak: Ty
hairy_freak: private profile ofc
Xibbe: if there weren't mongоloids
Xibbe: i would not be rank 500
Xibbe: in fact dota would not have enough players
Xibbe: for me to be interested
Xibbe: without mongоloids
He did also say "niggеr" but with some heavy context which you can check yourself.
Other than that, "trash", "moron" etc, nothing big.
786 games.
Nothing special.
121 games.
Nothing special.
6129 games (!!!)
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Match chat: 3562075322
V-tune: кляті русичі damn russians
V-tune: заібале fucking sick of them
V-tune: тіма дібілов закнчите будь ласка retard team end please
V-tune: по біріку quickly
(...)
V-tune: що ти ржош what are you laughing at
Shad number 1 fan: go party next gmae to finish lp x
Shad number 1 fan: xd
V-tune: кінь москальський moskal horse
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Match chat: 2605121045
V-tune: learn english
V-tune: trash russian
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Match chat: 2538047813
V-tune: у нас зевс our zeus
V-tune: хач is a hach [derogatory word for armenians and other dark-skinned inhabitants of Russia]
Other than that, he said "trash" and "clown" in all chat probably more times than I have matches played. I may have missed some more outstanding stuff therefore.
6253 games. (!!!)
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Match chat: 4576704188
confession: so
confession: r u arab
confession: or bulgarian
awe`: (core)
awe`: x d
confession: no matter but ur son opf whore
(...)
confession: if u will ever
confession: take my core again
confession: ill come to ur
confession: turkey
confession: summer
confession: and shot
confession: andu r legs
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Match chat: 4576536046
confession: Can u kindly ask vuper
confession: is he bulgarian
confession: arab
confession: or turkey
confession: Im curious
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Match chat: 3942376942
confession: rank 1290412904
confession: turkey
confession: animal
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Match chat: 3862964458
confession: 2ez for ter(r)orist
confession: on jugg
confession: abdul iraq
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Match chat: 3641453125
confession: and yeah
confession: sf is
. : its not like im stopping you
confession: turkey son of whore
confession: ruined much my games
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Match chat: 3614569505
confession: russian
confession: animal
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Match chat: 3499926704
confession: сосать хохол suck it, hohol
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Match chat: 3492702868
confession: заткнись хохол shut up, hohol
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Match chat: 3292042138
confession: ставь лайк если ты 30 лет хохол наркоман контришь нагу свеном click "like" if you're a 30-year old junkie hohol countering naga with sven
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Match chat: 3130024653
confession: turkey son of whore
(...)
confession: turkey subhuman
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Match chat: 3112026407
confession: i ruinedl ike 3 games in a row for turkey subhuman
confession: and nowi`m getting 20iq animals
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Match chat: 3095444857
confession: turkey 20 iq subhuman
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Match chat: 2995537300
confession: fucking turkmongоloid
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Match chat: 2796108453
confession: twitchtv/mongоloidfuckdota
confession: follow jugg
r0adhouse: good brand
confession: he is just
confession: Mongоloid fucker
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Match chat: 2761074645
confession: no mana
confession: mongоloid
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Match chat: 2546994255
confession: learn eng
confession: DEADS)))
confession: mongоloid
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Match chat: 2204274076
confession: u stupid mongоloid
And so on and so forth, plus normal trashtalk.
3175 games.
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Match chat: 3617926234
funn1k: ебало
funn1k: офф shut your trap
Pikachu: ti xto? who are you?
funn1k: хохол hohol
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Match chat: 3279460977
funn1k: he is braindaed russian monkey
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Match chat: 2299791316
funn1k: coz he is fucking cancerous
SNGPPP: ur warlock
funn1k: gypsy romanian
funn1k: trash
1119 games.
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Match chat: 3085657347
LeBronDota: our axe used both shrinES
LeBronDota: FCKLING MONgоloid
Other than that it's just "trash" and "clown" et cetera.
897 games.
Nothing worth mentioning.
2133 games.
Some rather funny flames but nothing else.
2843 games.
Relatively little trashtalk, usually "cancer" or "trash".
4277 games. (!!)
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Match chat: 4037942287
Shachlo: хохол ебаный fucking hohol
Little else worth mentioning.
101 games.
Nothing worth mentioning.
2843 games.
Nothing to speak of.
1132 games.
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Match chat: 3932293116
RAMZEs: Уже 0 шансов на победу already 0 chance to win
RAMZEs: я проклят I'm cursed
RAMZEs: Китайцами by the Chinese
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Match chat: 3518922991
RAMZEs: Все завали ебалище alright, shut the fuck up now
Anonymous: уебушка fuckwit
RAMZEs: ты хохол блять you fucking hohol
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Match chat: 2291881900
RAMZEs: pizda tebe you're fucked now
RAMZEs: hohol ebu4iy fucking hohol
Plus some relatively mild trashtalk around.
443 games.
Only normal trashtalk, clown, go fuck yourself, etc.
526 games.
Nothing worth mentioning.
12 games.
Too few games for anything.
845 games.
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Match chat: 2531965403
Solo: i forgive u
Solo: for mongоloid call
Just a few mentions of "cancer" otherwise.
2050 games.
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Match chat: 2074507888
ArsZeeqq: gtfo romanian moron
Other than that just clown, moron, etc. Majority of the games too old.
287 games.
Nothing on record.
1 game.
Yep, his famous incident isn't here, as he doesn't expose match data.
208 games.
"Trash", "cancer", etc, but nothing big.
2394 games.
Nothing to see here.
302 games.
Few trashtalks but that's pretty much it.
No games available.
1649 games.
Nothing to see here.
911 games.
"Cancer", "ape", "morons", but nothing substantial.
235 games.
Nothing to see here.
172 games.
Nothing to see here either.
3166 games.
Some flame and trashtalk but nothing big.
4468 games. (!!)
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Match chat: 4287530719
YawaR: tRASH REGION
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Match chat: 4018174872
YawaR: terrorist and holocaust
(...)
YawaR: hey u pieceoehfist teal
YawaR: hwy aint u playing enigma
YawaR: MEXICNAS
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Match chat: 4002585078
YawaR: stfu RUSSIAN RETARD
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Match chat: 3772542993
YawaR: FUCKIN mexicna russian
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Match chat: 3631907525
YawaR: die u peruvian ape
Sneyking: rofl
YawaR: Peruvbian down
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Match chat: 3272352130
YawaR: indian dickhead
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Match chat: 3212873305
YawaR: STFU UR awful
☺☺☺: it sgoing down ,wtf
YawaR: u fuckion сhink
☺☺☺: noob
Burma ka 109/110: END
☺☺☺: LOL
YawaR: сhink DOWN
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Match chat: 3192009539
YawaR: fuckin mongоloid
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Match chat: 3025726658
YawaR: i have 0 respect for u indian trahs
DuBu: gg wp
YawaR: its in ur bloodcant change
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Match chat: 2939033420
YawaR: u fucikimn сhink
(yellow)paprika: why should i let u go
YawaR: there are like 1million сhink players
paprika: fuck off
YawaR: and they only won 3 tis
#wolfkin #proudcuck #LGBTQRX: Only
YawaR: hope ylelow dies
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Match chat: 2675761603
YawaR: u dumbniggеrs
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Match chat: 2619664385
YawaR: STFU u сhink
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Match chat: 2500882537
YawaR: browns the superior сhink
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Match chat: 2443882673
YawaR: JOIJOICE ur сhink cant get any worse
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Match chat: 2439476185
YawaR: i wonder if u have money u сhink
And lots, lots, serious lots of trash/moron/cancer stuff. Even some of the worse ones like "I hope XX gets cancer", but that's not the focus of this post.
5256 games. (!!!)
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Match chat: 4147752432
CCnC: ur actually so stupid its flabberghasting
captain: same here
Mr.J-: keep doing
CCnC: ur a mongоloid
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Match chat: 4091135979
CCnC: Stack reports on yellow
CCnC: For being t he biggest mongоloid
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Match chat: 4037294085
CCnC: ur such a mongоloid purple
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Match chat: 3771962509
CCnC: stack reports on brown
Чилю в песочнице: :)
CCnC: For bein gan intolerable COMPLETE MONgоloid
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Match chat: 3764412935
CCnC: Russians are intolerable
(...)
CCnC: Just stack reports on DG
CCnC: For bieng a european
CCnC: Degenerate
CCnC: europeans are actually the most abysmal region
CCnC: its insane
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Match chat: 3712013910
CCnC: You ruined the game you mongоloid
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Match chat: 3493234762
CCnC: orange you're terrible
CCnC: Yo monogоloid
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Match chat: 3344582535
CCnC: You fountain diving
CCnC: Mongоloids
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Match chat: 3318483365
CCnC: Such an obnoxious mongоloid
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Match chat: 3208425393
CCnC: You awful mongоloid
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Match chat: 3193953383
CCnC: Can you lvea my lane ryu you mongоloid
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Match chat: 2992486440
CCnC: Sell your items you mongоloid
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Match chat: 2992486440
CCnC: bunch of bickering mongоloids
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Match chat: 2965137264
CCnC: You bumbling mongоloid of a retard
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Match chat: 2938727140
CCnC: everyone reprot this degenerate mongоloid
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Match chat: 2928743866
CCnC: Kill yourself you mongоloid
And a whole bunch of "ape", "baboon", "cancer" and "moron" throughout. Was rather hard to scroll.
3770 games.
Mostly trashtalk. Had a phrase like "Russians are the peruvians of EU" but nothing big.
1472 games.
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Match chat: 3777668537
MSS-: DK's
MSS-: a fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 3644034522
MSS-: u fucking mongоloid
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Match chat: 3304005560
MSS-: u mongоloid
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Match chat: 3274451534
MSS-: ? my bristle's a mongоloid
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Match chat: 2611439981
MSS-: u mongоloid
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Match chat: 2408166009
MSS-: i got fucking RUSSIANS man
MSS-: GG
Casual trashtalk otherwise.
23 games.
Nothing here.
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Match chat: 3922154725
Aui_2000: i am coaching u mongоloid
Casual flame/trashtalk otherwise.
No games available.
1465 games.
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Match chat: 3793001501
SumaiL: PERU = trash
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Match chat: 2143308019
SumaiL: apparently eveyr fukcign peruvian is a moron
A lot of trashtalk for 1.4k games, but it's all "trash", "moron" etc.
1297 games.
The only time he said "trash" in all-chat was in reference to himself.
4127 games.
Appropriate amount of trashtalk, but nothing racial.
2681 games.
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Match chat: 3990817016
BuLba: brown u stupid mongоloid
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Match chat: 3336542995
BuLba: pink ur gonna lose this game u mongоloid
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Match chat: 2867237990
BuLba: teal uir not funny u mongоloid
BuLba: go die
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Match chat: 2808731865
BuLba: light blues a real fucking mongоloid
Other than that only usual trashtalks.
2135 games.
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Match chat: 3231824153
leo: tu é 1 mongоloide dazzel
A bunch of portuguese trashtalk, "subhuman", "trash" etc but nothing I can see about race.
1549 games.
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Match chat: 2057621106
4dr <3 Déia: u fucking mongоloid
Random trashtalk otherwise.
1844 games.
Casual trashtalk, nothing unusual, though idk portuguese.
1309 games.
Same as above.
3494 games.
Fair amount of trashtalk, sometimes mentioned being in team with 4 russians but not in an insulting manner.
1269 games.
Not even trashtalk. Then again, maybe he was talking chinese/german and didn't get caught.
1453 games.
Some trashtalk, nothing big.
576 games.
No trashtalk at all, even remotely, in public games' all-chat.
492 games.
Some trashtalk, some of it in spanish, yelled "BANANA SLAM JAMMA" once, otherwise nothing.
Now, in conclusion, how many of the players do you believe are actually racist after all that?
I believe it's still zero - though I allow a tiny margin of error.
All of those people are some of the most passionate and intelligent Dota 2 players. They put vast majority of their time into playing Dota and improving. They wouldn't be able to reach the current heights otherwise. To them, the time spent in game is the most precious. They're the ones most likely to feel bitter and angry over an underperforming ally or a cheesy strategy of the enemy.
Getting bunched up with 4 people who may or may not speak your language makes for a great breeding ground of prejudice. Not necessarily racism, but prejudice. If you don't speak Russian, and see after loading that 3 of your teammates are russian, you already expect the team to fail. You become pissed at them, and what better way to address them than by their one common trait? That's how a trend is born. Be it "fuck russians" or "fuck peruvians" or whatever else. And those trends spread like wildfire among streamers, redditors, and other public forums.
You may also notice that not everyone is gh. It would appear that niceness and politeness are not good predictors of success - you can see a large mix here at the top, from some people who've never hurt a fly to some who get into an insult battle every second game.
And now for the biggest issue, in my opinion. While pro players are treated as this special, legendary group of "opinion leaders", they all are, first and foremost, just pub players. They came from the group of pub players, and they still are thoroughly mixed among others like them, and honestly many of those pub players can suddenly become pros and "opinion leaders" at any reshuffle.
So while some conscientiousness is necessary, I don't think this current overwatch is doing any good. If anything, its only effect is damaging player's reputation over a perceived "racism" or malice that 99.9% of time isn't even there - as already mentioned, 99.9% of the time players don't mean what they say literally and would never act on it in real life.
The argument that they're damaging whole humanity because some retards can look up to them and become racist is, frankly, ridiculous. That kind of dumbness is unstoppable. If you want to stop the "racism" from spreading, you need to stop people like the OP in latest drama, baiting pros into a reaction then exaggerating and spreading it, and people like me who do this shit.
Or...
... stop making such a big deal out of it.
Good job, such analysis with vast amounts of useless data is always fun :)
On the matter - I'm not a Dota player, didn't know there's suddenly drama around it. My take on "racist" slurs is that people in most cases just use them as a greater insult. Not because they're racist, but because it's a fitting insult. - I agree with your opinion.
Example: If you are crazily mad, would you call a person an "idiot" or use the n-word? 2x effect if you know the person is actually black. 3x if people suddenly get offended more by some insults than others.
Conclusion: Insults are insults, calling someone fat (real or not) has the same effect as calling someone racist slurs (real or not). Both equally bad, stop blowing shit out of proportion.