mvexel · February 25, 2015 17:49
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 09:49 < mvexel> If I had a file with proposed changes to OSM, and I wanted to send that to someone to load in JOSM and process, what would be the preferred format?
 09:50 < mvexel> OSC or JOSM XML?
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 09:59 < simonpoole> JOSM format
 10:04 < mvexel> simonpoole, any particular reason why JOSM over OSC?
 10:05 < simonpoole> osc only has changes, JOSM would typically have the complete objects
 10:05 < mvexel> I'm afraid I am not too familiar with the change file formats...
 10:05 < simonpoole> example moving a node of a way
 10:07 < mvexel> I thought OSC could / would include complete objects also
 10:14 < simonpoole> would not, could perhaps :-)
 10:19 < joto> osc files contain complete objects
 10:20 < joto> but i don't believe josm can read it
 10:21 < joto> as simon says a usual osc file would only contain the node moved, not the way the node might be in
 10:21 < joto> but if you are creating that file you could include the way or whatever you want
 10:23 < harry-wood> bit of comparison here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_XML#JOSM_file_format
 10:23 < harry-wood> bit of comparison here: 2:<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_XML#JOSM_file_format>
 10:25 < mvexel> thanks joto, harry-wood -- The osc support in JOSM has been off-and-on from what I remember, just for that reason JOSM XML may be the better choice then?
 10:26 < harry-wood> Yeah I had thought JOSM would open a .osc file
 10:26 < harry-wood> Some details here: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6653#comment:10
 10:26 < harry-wood> Some details here: 3:<https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6653#comment:10>
 10:26 < harry-wood> "JOSM's osm parser used to be very lenient, and opened osc files by ignoring the create, modify and delete tags. The result is incorrect, but could be still useful"
 10:27 < mvexel> It does open it but I haven't really looked at how well it displays the changes visually
 10:39 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: One of my "how the hell do I use JOSM" help questions was about OSC support, I think.  There's probably some useful info on there.
 10:40 < mvexel> SomeoneElse: do you remember the title / link?
 10:42 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: Reading it again it may not be quite what you're after, but it's https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26429/how-do-i-download-a-changeset-in-josm
 10:42 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: Reading it again it may not be quite what you're after, but it's 9:<https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26429/how-do-i-download-a-changeset-in-josm>
 10:42 < mvexel> thanks anyway ;)
	09:49 < mvexel> If I had a file with proposed changes to OSM, and I wanted to send that to someone to load in JOSM and process, what would be the preferred format?
	09:50 < mvexel> OSC or JOSM XML?
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	09:59 < simonpoole> JOSM format
	10:04 < mvexel> simonpoole, any particular reason why JOSM over OSC?
	10:05 < simonpoole> osc only has changes, JOSM would typically have the complete objects
	10:05 < mvexel> I'm afraid I am not too familiar with the change file formats...
	10:05 < simonpoole> example moving a node of a way
	10:07 < mvexel> I thought OSC could / would include complete objects also
	10:14 < simonpoole> would not, could perhaps :-)
	10:19 < joto> osc files contain complete objects
	10:20 < joto> but i don't believe josm can read it
	10:21 < joto> as simon says a usual osc file would only contain the node moved, not the way the node might be in
	10:21 < joto> but if you are creating that file you could include the way or whatever you want
	10:23 < harry-wood> bit of comparison here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_XML#JOSM_file_format
	10:23 < harry-wood> bit of comparison here: 2:<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_XML#JOSM_file_format>
	10:25 < mvexel> thanks joto, harry-wood -- The osc support in JOSM has been off-and-on from what I remember, just for that reason JOSM XML may be the better choice then?
	10:26 < harry-wood> Yeah I had thought JOSM would open a .osc file
	10:26 < harry-wood> Some details here: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6653#comment:10
	10:26 < harry-wood> Some details here: 3:<https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6653#comment:10>
	10:26 < harry-wood> "JOSM's osm parser used to be very lenient, and opened osc files by ignoring the create, modify and delete tags. The result is incorrect, but could be still useful"
	10:27 < mvexel> It does open it but I haven't really looked at how well it displays the changes visually
	10:39 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: One of my "how the hell do I use JOSM" help questions was about OSC support, I think. There's probably some useful info on there.
	10:40 < mvexel> SomeoneElse: do you remember the title / link?
	10:42 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: Reading it again it may not be quite what you're after, but it's https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26429/how-do-i-download-a-changeset-in-josm
	10:42 < SomeoneElse> mvexel: Reading it again it may not be quite what you're after, but it's 9:<https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26429/how-do-i-download-a-changeset-in-josm>
	10:42 < mvexel> thanks anyway ;)