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Wherein ChatGPT4 acts as an experienced ZFS systems admin and makes recommendations to my config

ZFS Admin: Collect, Configure.

You:

I want you to act as an expert systems administrator specializing in ZFS filesystems. I want you to give me commands to run to collect information about my ZFS drives and configuration, and I will paste the output back to you, and you will then make configuration recommendations (possibly including the commands to run) to increase performance given my use case and priorities (which you can also ask me anything about).

ChatGPT:

Great, I'll be happy to help you with your ZFS configuration. Let's start by gathering some basic information about your current ZFS setup.

Please run the following commands and provide me with the output:

  1. To check the ZFS version and support on your system:
zfs --version
  1. To list the current ZFS pools and their basic properties:
zpool list
  1. To get more detailed information about the ZFS pools:
zpool status
  1. To display properties for each dataset (filesystem or volume) in your pool:
zfs list -o name,used,avail,refer,mountpoint,compression,checksum,atime,recordsize

Once I have this information, I'll be able to make configuration recommendations tailored to your system. Additionally, please provide some information about your use case and priorities, such as:

  • What type of data is stored on the ZFS filesystem? (e.g. large files, small files, databases, VM images, etc.)
  • What are your primary concerns? (e.g. data integrity, performance, capacity, etc.)
  • What is your typical workload like? (e.g. read-heavy, write-heavy, mixed, etc.)

You:

To first answer your questions, the type of data on this filesystem is mainly game data but can also include app data and log data, code in various languages, etc. My primary concerns are performance; I'm happy with the data integrity and capacity for now. My typical workload is read-heavy to mixed.

Here is the output of the commands you requested:

pmarreck 🟢 3h20m43s413ms
20230402133659 ~ bash> zfs --version
zfs-2.1.9-1
zfs-kmod-2.1.9-1

pmarreck 🟢 40ms
20230403231338 ~ bash> zpool list
NAME    SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
bpool  3.75G   714M  3.05G        -         -     1%    18%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
rpool  8.92T  3.90T  5.02T        -         -     9%    43%  1.00x    ONLINE  -

pmarreck 🟢 37ms
20230403231345 ~ bash> zpool status
  pool: bpool
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub repaired 0B in 00:00:09 with 0 errors on Sun Apr  2 02:00:22 2023
config:

        NAME                                                                                                                   STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        bpool                                                                                                                  ONLINE       0     0     0
          mirror-0                                                                                                             ONLINE       0     0     0
            ata-WDC_WD101FZBX-00ATAA0_VCKR0ALP-part2                                                                           ONLINE       0     0     0
            ata-WDC_WD101FZBX-00ATAA0_VCKR0UGP-part2                                                                           ONLINE       0     0     0
        cache
          nvme-nvme.1987-4130443630373032303341373031353239333735-53616272656e7420526f636b657420342e3020325442-00000001-part2  ONLINE       0     0     0
          nvme-nvme.1987-3033383530373032313135443031363835333438-53616272656e7420526f636b657420342e3020325442-00000001-part2  ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

  pool: rpool
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub repaired 0B in 06:39:41 with 0 errors on Sun Apr  2 08:39:55 2023
config:

        NAME                                                                                                                   STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        rpool                                                                                                                  ONLINE       0     0     0
          mirror-0                                                                                                             ONLINE       0     0     0
            ata-WDC_WD101FZBX-00ATAA0_VCKR0ALP-part3                                                                           ONLINE       0     0     0
            ata-WDC_WD101FZBX-00ATAA0_VCKR0UGP-part3                                                                           ONLINE       0     0     0
        logs
          nvme-Sabrent_Rocket_4.0_2TB_A0D6070203A701529375-part1                                                               ONLINE       0     0     0
          nvme-nvme.1987-3033383530373032313135443031363835333438-53616272656e7420526f636b657420342e3020325442-00000001-part1  ONLINE       0     0     0
        cache
          nvme-nvme.1987-4130443630373032303341373031353239333735-53616272656e7420526f636b657420342e3020325442-00000001-part3  ONLINE       0     0     0
          nvme-nvme.1987-3033383530373032313135443031363835333438-53616272656e7420526f636b657420342e3020325442-00000001-part3  ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

pmarreck 🟢 22ms
20230403231351 ~ bash> zfs list -o name,used,avail,refer,mountpoint,compression,checksum,atime,recordsize
NAME                  USED  AVAIL     REFER  MOUNTPOINT  COMPRESS        CHECKSUM   ATIME  RECSIZE
bpool                 714M  2.93G       96K  /boot       lz4             on         off       128K
bpool/nixos           712M  2.93G       96K  none        lz4             on         off       128K
bpool/nixos/root      712M  2.93G      712M  /boot       lz4             on         off       128K
rpool                3.90T  4.90T       96K  /           zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos          3.90T  4.90T       96K  none        zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos/home     3.80T  4.90T     3.80T  /home       zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos/root     86.6G  4.90T     86.6G  /           zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos/var      15.8G  4.90T       96K  /var        zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos/var/lib  15.8G  4.90T     15.8G  /var/lib    zstd-8          edonr      off         1M
rpool/nixos/var/log  1.19M  4.90T     1.19M  /var/log    zstd-8          edonr      off         1M

ChatGPT:

Thank you for providing the requested information and describing your use case. Based on the information provided, here are a few recommendations to improve performance for your ZFS filesystem:

  1. Since your workload is read-heavy to mixed, consider adjusting the ZFS Adaptive Replacement Cache (ARC) settings to optimize for read performance. You can limit the ARC size by setting the zfs_arc_max parameter. Here's an example of how to set it to 8 GB (adjust the value according to your system's memory):
echo "options zfs zfs_arc_max=8589934592" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf
sudo sysctl -w vfs.zfs.arc_max=8589934592
  1. Enable the L2ARC (Level 2 Adaptive Replacement Cache) to improve read performance. You already have two NVMe SSDs configured as cache devices in your pools, so the L2ARC is already enabled. However, you can further tune the L2ARC by adjusting the l2arc_write_max, l2arc_write_boost, and l2arc_headroom parameters. For example:
echo "options zfs l2arc_write_max=104857600" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf
echo "options zfs l2arc_write_boost=104857600" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf
echo "options zfs l2arc_headroom=2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf
sudo sysctl -w vfs.zfs.l2arc_write_max=104857600
sudo sysctl -w vfs.zfs.l2arc_write_boost=104857600
sudo sysctl -w vfs.zfs.l2arc_headroom=2

These settings increase the L2ARC write speed and the amount of headroom for prefetch requests, which can improve read performance.

  1. Consider disabling access time (atime) updates on your filesystems. This can reduce disk I/O overhead during reads, as it prevents the need to write metadata updates each time a file is accessed. You've already disabled atime updates on your datasets, so no further action is needed here.

  2. For workloads with a mix of large and small files, it might be beneficial to use a smaller record size. Currently, you have a record size of 1M for your rpool datasets. You can experiment with a smaller record size, such as 128K or 256K, to see if it improves performance for your specific workload. Keep in mind that changing the record size will only affect newly-written data. To change the record size for an existing dataset, run:

sudo zfs set recordsize=128K rpool/nixos/home

Replace rpool/nixos/home with other datasets as needed.

Please remember that these recommendations are just a starting point, and you might need to fine-tune these settings based on your specific use case and hardware. Always test these changes on a non-production system first to ensure there are no negative impacts on performance or stability.

Let me know if you have any questions or need further assistance.

You:

I use NixOS. How would I add these configurations to /etc/nixos/configuration.nix ?

ChatGPT:

In NixOS, you can add these configurations to /etc/nixos/configuration.nix using the boot.kernelParams and fileSystems options. Here's how you can modify your configuration.nix file to include the recommended changes:

  1. Add the ZFS ARC and L2ARC parameters as kernel options:
boot.kernelParams = [
  "zfs.zfs_arc_max=8589934592"
  "zfs.l2arc_write_max=104857600"
  "zfs.l2arc_write_boost=104857600"
  "zfs.l2arc_headroom=2"
];
  1. Set the record size for the ZFS datasets:

Add or modify the following lines in your fileSystems configuration:

fileSystems = {
  "/home" = {
    device = "rpool/nixos/home";
    fsType = "zfs";
    options = [ "recordsize=128K" ];
  };

  # Add or modify other datasets with the desired record size as needed
};

After updating your /etc/nixos/configuration.nix file, you will need to rebuild your NixOS configuration by running:

sudo nixos-rebuild switch

Please note that modifying the record size as shown above will only affect newly-written data. If you want to apply the new record size to existing data, you will need to create a new dataset with the desired record size, copy the data over, and then replace the old dataset with the new one.

Keep in mind that the provided examples are just starting points, and you might need to adjust the values based on your specific use case and hardware. Always test these changes on a non-production system first to ensure there are no negative impacts on performance or stability.

You:

any additional comments on the output of zfs get all rpool below?

~ bash> zfs get all rpool
NAME   PROPERTY              VALUE                            SOURCE
rpool  type                  filesystem                       -
rpool  creation              Tue Sep  6 17:54 2022            -
rpool  used                  3.90T                            -
rpool  available             4.90T                            -
rpool  referenced            96K                              -
rpool  compressratio         1.21x                            -
rpool  mounted               no                               -
rpool  quota                 none                             default
rpool  reservation           none                             default
rpool  recordsize            1M                               local
rpool  mountpoint            /                                local
rpool  sharenfs              off                              default
rpool  checksum              edonr                            local
rpool  compression           zstd-8                           local
rpool  atime                 off                              local
rpool  devices               on                               default
rpool  exec                  on                               default
rpool  setuid                on                               default
rpool  readonly              off                              default
rpool  zoned                 off                              default
rpool  snapdir               hidden                           default
rpool  aclmode               discard                          default
rpool  aclinherit            restricted                       default
rpool  createtxg             1                                -
rpool  canmount              off                              local
rpool  xattr                 sa                               local
rpool  copies                1                                default
rpool  version               5                                -
rpool  utf8only              on                               -
rpool  normalization         formD                            -
rpool  casesensitivity       sensitive                        -
rpool  vscan                 off                              default
rpool  nbmand                off                              default
rpool  sharesmb              off                              default
rpool  refquota              none                             default
rpool  refreservation        none                             default
rpool  guid                  14439948851242123522             -
rpool  primarycache          all                              default
rpool  secondarycache        all                              local
rpool  usedbysnapshots       0B                               -
rpool  usedbydataset         96K                              -
rpool  usedbychildren        3.90T                            -
rpool  usedbyrefreservation  0B                               -
rpool  logbias               latency                          default
rpool  objsetid              54                               -
rpool  dedup                 off                              default
rpool  mlslabel              none                             default
rpool  sync                  standard                         default
rpool  dnodesize             auto                             local
rpool  refcompressratio      1.00x                            -
rpool  written               96K                              -
rpool  logicalused           4.73T                            -
rpool  logicalreferenced     42K                              -
rpool  volmode               default                          default
rpool  filesystem_limit      none                             default
rpool  snapshot_limit        none                             default
rpool  filesystem_count      none                             default
rpool  snapshot_count        none                             default
rpool  snapdev               hidden                           default
rpool  acltype               posix                            local
rpool  context               none                             default
rpool  fscontext             none                             default
rpool  defcontext            none                             default
rpool  rootcontext           none                             default
rpool  relatime              on                               local
rpool  redundant_metadata    all                              default
rpool  overlay               on                               default
rpool  encryption            off                              default
rpool  keylocation           none                             default
rpool  keyformat             none                             default
rpool  pbkdf2iters           0                                default
rpool  special_small_blocks  0                                default
rpool  nixos:shutdown-time   Sat Apr  1 12:26:24 PM EDT 2023  local

ChatGPT:

Based on the output of zfs get all rpool, your configuration seems reasonable for your use case. Here are some additional comments:

  1. Compression: You are using zstd-8 compression, which is a good choice for general-purpose datasets. It offers a balance between compression ratio and CPU usage.

  2. Record size: You have set the record size to 1M, which is suitable for large files and streaming workloads. However, for your gaming and mixed-use case, consider setting the record size to 128K, as it can provide better performance for smaller files and random I/O.

  3. Checksum: You are using the edonr checksum algorithm, which is considered experimental and not recommended for production use. I recommend using the default fletcher4 checksum for better compatibility and reliability, unless you have specific reasons to use edonr.

  4. atime: Disabling access time updates (atime) is a good choice for improving performance, as it reduces unnecessary write operations.

  5. relatime: Enabling relative access time (relatime) is also a good choice, as it further reduces unnecessary write operations caused by access time updates.

  6. primarycache and secondarycache: Both are set to all, which is the default and suitable for most workloads. If you have specific requirements, you can experiment with changing these settings to improve performance.

  7. xattr: You have set extended attributes (xattr) to sa (System Attributes), which can provide better performance and is recommended for modern systems.

  8. dnodesize: You have set the dnodesize to auto, which is a good choice as it allows ZFS to automatically choose the appropriate dnode size based on the dataset's characteristics.

Overall, your configuration seems reasonable for your use case. You may want to consider the recommendations provided earlier (record size and checksum algorithm) to further optimize your ZFS filesystem's performance.

You:

Wouldn't setting the recordsize to 128k result in worse compression ratios though? I'm not sure if the implementation of the zstd algorithm in ZFS uses its "dictionary" feature, which might mitigate the negative effect on total compression ratio of reducing the recordsize. (Or does compression in ZFS operate by block? Or by record? I'm not sure.)

ChatGPT:

You're correct that setting the record size to 128K can potentially result in worse compression ratios compared to using a larger record size. Compression in ZFS operates at the record level, not the block level. When ZFS compresses data, it compresses each record independently. Smaller record sizes may lead to less effective compression because there's less data in each record for the compression algorithm to work with.

However, it's important to balance compression ratio with the performance characteristics of your workload. A smaller record size like 128K can provide better performance for smaller files and random I/O, which might be more important for your use case with gaming and mixed workloads.

The zstd implementation in ZFS does not utilize the dictionary feature. It compresses data on a per-record basis without sharing dictionaries between records.

In summary, there is a trade-off between compression ratio and performance when choosing a record size. While a smaller record size may result in a slightly worse compression ratio, it can provide better performance for certain workloads. You should consider your workload's specific requirements and priorities when deciding on the appropriate record size. If performance is more important in your use case, a smaller record size such as 128K may be more suitable.

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