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233615      <rking> Hi guys. I'm an async n00b. Is there a broad distinction between promises/futures/deferrables?
233623      <rking> And what do JS people use?
233628      <Norm_> niggler: thanks for the help
233643    <niggler> rking why not plain old callbacks?
233757  <DarkArgon> where do i find docs for the events in express? for example res.on('header')
234045      <rking> niggler: I'm not sure.
234137      <rking> niggler: What about stuffing them into an Array?
234209    <niggler> rking what are you trying to do?  the common first-step is `async`
234227    <niggler> https://npmjs.org/package/async
234404      <rking> niggler: I'm not really sure. I'm just exploring ways of coding that are foreign to me.
234416      <rking> BTW a friend just pointed this out to me, and it's entirely about your question: http://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/03/30/callbacks-are-imperative-promises-are-functional-nodes-biggest-missed-opportunity/
234506 <bnoordhuis> ^ just saw that on HN
234512    <niggler> those are all cute but ultimately callbacks are conceptually simpler
234525 <bnoordhuis> let's not forget node 0.1 had promises
234532 <bnoordhuis> they were pretty much a disaster
234616    <niggler> I'm convinced at this point bnoordhuis there are two types of programmers: those who care about shit like promises and those who get shit done
234642 <bnoordhuis> i don't disagree :)
234736 <bnoordhuis> it's good that people are looking beyond what's already there
234740    <cracken> but do you promise?
234742 <bnoordhuis> but for now we're stuck with callbacks
234814    <cracken> can't you create your own promise fairly easily
234829 <bnoordhuis> yes. people do it a lot
234843 <bnoordhuis> no one implementation has taken the node ecosystem by storm
234852 <bnoordhuis> read into that what you will
234913    <cracken> that it's not really that important
234916    <niggler> whereas "async" has :)
234948 <bnoordhuis> well... async and step have been around since nearly the beginning
235040 <bnoordhuis> they're not necessarily the Endlosung to one's callback woes
235051 <bnoordhuis> but they work and they're pretty battle-tested by now