The Associated Press NFT Discord Chat v2: The Aftermath

AP_NFT_Discord_2022-04-13

Note: The log as it exists below is an up-to-date snapshot of all discussions in the Xooa ap-general discord. 
There is a large chunk of missing discussion where the AP team purged a bunch of comments, criticism & discussion 
on February 24th & 25th (as well as banning journalists, critics & those asking valuable, if pointed questions).
That information can be found [here](https://gist.github.com/saisons/71bcb283149804da8d7c3780bf5004ef).

The ap-announcement channel log, which is read only, begins on line 539.

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Julia | AP — 24/02/2022
Welcome Thomas! We’re happy you’re here. Which NFT did you get?
Thomas — 24/02/2022
Thanks Julia! I got Wong Maye-E' Children's Palace timeless edition
Julia | AP — 24/02/2022
One of my personal favorites. If you go over to 🐤┃ap-twitter-spaces, there’s a conversation with @maye-e where she talks about capturing this image. Really good stuff.
Thomas — 24/02/2022
Awesome thanks Julia, I'll check it out!
Brian | AP — 24/02/2022
GM
Brian | AP — 24/02/2022
A big AP thank you to all of our early supporters... snapshot has been taken.
ronny I TSF — 24/02/2022
hey
Thomas — 25/02/2022
At least people are not getting kicked off the discord for voicing their concerns, which happens with a lot of projects
Thomas — 25/02/2022
I'm not supporting their decision, just pointing out that this kind of discussion would not be taking place on other discords. I don't have anything to add to the discussion, its been covered. Also perhaps take a slightly less aggressive approach to people who are leaving comments?
Thomas — 25/02/2022
That's fair, that criticism can be extended to much of the media
Zeekou — 25/02/2022
Hey I am very interested in buying and collecting few nfts on the market place but I age few questions: my understanding they buyer won’t get the copyright is that correct? 
Second question: Will AP creat more editions of the same pictures in the future?
BizzleMcGizzle — 25/02/2022
Awesome questions! I would like to know this too
Dwayne — 25/02/2022
GM. Correct. NFT owners do not receive copyright. The token and image come with a personal use license but with one difference, resale of the token onchain is permitted. Once we've minted a photo, it will not be minted again.
Dwayne — 25/02/2022
The analog equivalent is buying one of a series of prints, but having a transparent way of proving ownership.
Zeekou — 25/02/2022
Thank you 🙏🏻
Sorry about the typo
HeelTurn3 — 26/02/2022
Can anyone clarify what has happened to this board the last two days and how it degenerated into such an S show?
chackiejan — 26/02/2022
Are there any plans of one NFT per photo only so that one can really drive the price up for resale?
Leslie Spurlock — 26/02/2022
Agreed! This is so different now from what it was.
Brian | AP — 26/02/2022
GM - At this time, our team is taking a creative break. We'll see you next week.
molly — 26/02/2022
good luck to the AP PR team, who i imagine are having a busy weekend ❤️
Rodders — 27/02/2022
Is there any reason why I can no longer see the drops page?
All I see is the community market page, even if I navigate to the /drops it re-directs to the community market pages
ULTRON — 27/02/2022
gm
marlen73.eth — 27/02/2022
GM ♥️
Fidel Everywhere — 27/02/2022
Zeekou — 27/02/2022
Gm
Leslie Spurlock — 27/02/2022
Gm!
chackiejan — 27/02/2022
I'm still waiting on my answer. If there are plans of releasing one nft only per photo specially for iconic photos from AP. Money is not a problem, but I need exclusivity.
Zeekou — 27/02/2022
I asked the same question earlier and that was the answer: 

GM. Correct. NFT owners do not receive copyright. The token and image come with a personal use license but with one difference, resale of the token onchain is permitted. Once we've minted a photo, it will not be minted again.
chackiejan — 27/02/2022
Thank you, I'd obviously like to resale because that is the entire point of nft to drive up the market price so the more exclusive it is, the higher price I can make.
Zeekou — 27/02/2022
Yes exactly: some of the pictures that got released have only one edition and it says singular on the website.
Right now it looks like there’s only one picture that says singular on the marketplace
chackiejan — 27/02/2022
Thank you. I guess we will hear more from the AP team after the PR crisis dies down which should be in a few days.
Zeekou — 27/02/2022
You are welcome
molly — 28/02/2022
is the team still on creative break?
swann — 01/03/2022
Arr lone Lee pal kwar
marlen73.eth — 01/03/2022
news about the airdrop ???
slipstream — 01/03/2022
@Brian | AP : February is over but there's still not way to export NFTs from AP market as you stated in 💼┃roadmap
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Fhloston — 01/03/2022
OS integration is very close. 
chackiejan — 01/03/2022
When is the team going to be back? I've seen some relisting of nft on the marketplace over million dollars and I'd like to get into that action.
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Heaterboombeater — 01/03/2022
Also @Brian | AP , we early buyers supposed to get airdrops? That was in the announcements but never saw anything else.
Brian | AP — 01/03/2022
Hi - The airdrop is still planned and is currently on hold until our photo selection review is complete.
Zeekou — 01/03/2022
😱😱
marlen73.eth — 02/03/2022
GM ♥️
Zeekou — 02/03/2022
Gm
chackiejan — 02/03/2022
501.41550 ($1499000) is what Anja Niedringhaus NFT is listed at. Damn I need some cheddar too. Can't wait to get the next single NFT to put it up for a mill
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Arielos — 02/03/2022
Hello @Brian | AP , will there be any drops next week or the following weeks ? Any chance some of them could be 30/50 edition for photos with a purchase price around $299 ? I loved some of the photos that were recently featured but I can’t spend $500-1,700 per photo.😅Thank you !
raymz — 02/03/2022
gm
marlen73.eth — 03/03/2022
GM ♥️
Carol — 03/03/2022
hello 
i have a problem because it tell me that my country is not supported to join on the website. I have an nft there and i m from Romania
chackiejan — 03/03/2022
I'd like to see that price too to begin with, but with just 1 nft as an auction.
Brian | AP — 03/03/2022
Hi - We don't have drops planned for next week. And we are looking at all facets of our project including content selection, number of editions, and prices. Can I ask which photos resonated with you most?
amitjain — 03/03/2022
Hey Carol, it should be working. Can you please check now.
Carol — 03/03/2022
all good, ty
chackiejan — 03/03/2022
Is it possible to request photographs from the AP archive? I'm interested in buying NFT of the burning Saigon man (Thich Quang Duc) made by Malcolm Browne
stinky odor — 03/03/2022
After following this project for a bit, I feel a new cynicism towards aps coverage of the invasion of Ukraine. I see images of grieving fathers and children huddling in subway systems and I think, "Is AP gonna mint this photo and sell it as a collectible?"
I'm sure they wouldn't be so glib, but I think that elements of the project that I knew hadn't sat right with me at the outset are being thrown into sharper relief with the ongoing crisis.
(please don't ban me)
chackiejan — 03/03/2022
True to your handle, stinky odor. Any photograph is game for NFT as long as the price is right. We are here to make money by owning and trading NFT's. That's exactly why this is called a marketplace.
stinky odor — 04/03/2022
Lol OK chackiejan. You came in here trying to get a 1/1 NFT of a man self immolating. I expect you to be tone deaf to profiting off the suffering of others
My comments were meant for the people who come here under the belief they're supporting artists
Zeekou — 04/03/2022
Guess what photographers do? They take pictures and sell it.
chackiejan — 04/03/2022
Exactly, money is exchanged whether it's a photograph of Niagara falls or a dying soldier in Ukraine. I don't understand the moral argument by @stinky odor because AP knows what they are doing, otherwise they wouldn't have set up a "marketplace".
stinky odor — 04/03/2022
If AP photographers are going into war torn areas to capture suffer porn to sell as collectibles, that makes them more akin to looters than reporters
Given the suspension of operations and ambiguity from the admins of this page, I'm inclined to believe that the AP executives are starting to see it that way as well
Zeekou — 04/03/2022
You think people do this for fun or as a hobby?
Snarls Barkley — 05/03/2022
Anyone else unable to log in?
Says “quota has been exceeded” for me
marlen73.eth — 06/03/2022
No, it is very strange
HeelTurn3 — 07/03/2022
Hoping we can get an update on what all is going on with this project sometime this week. It’s been awfully quiet lately
Handamonium — 07/03/2022
I am happy to see things here are under review. However I don't really care about content selection. 

The existence of this marketplace is the problem, not the content.

The media there already been sold and bought many times over by publishers putting out AP stories. As a journalist, I understand there is no way to avoid profit in misery, and seeing civic service through that lens is a trap. Good reporting adds context to justify selling the imagery.

But, selling the media on the Polygon blockchain, which isn't environmentally friendly yet and never really will be, is an affront to the civic service of socially-conscious AP reporters. There is no such thing as a clean NFT. All crypto infrastructure stands atop Proof of Work mining in the end.

Reporters aren't paid well, nor are photographers. Offering this opportunity and exposure is hard to pass up, even if refusing to participate would be praxis. If I were an AP photographer, I'd feel a lot of pressure not to miss out, despite my moral convinctions.
I was trained by an AP journalist and have a dog-eared stylebook. I've had photos published in newsprint. I absolutely care about the problem this marketplace wants to solve. But, using crypto is far too large of a compromise when it puts the future of humanity at risk.
stinky odor — 07/03/2022
Anyone starting to feel a little bit rugged?
chackiejan — 07/03/2022
Pathetic that the decision makers at AP have given in to cancel culture.
HeelTurn3 — 08/03/2022
Hard not to feel that way… was hoping for some sort of update today
Arielos — 08/03/2022
@stinky odor : I hope that the current war in Ukraine ( which could be extended internationally ) will not be used to sell photos and NFTs on the AP@marketplace or elsewhere. It is a oral obligation for all of us to let go of making money under any types of circumstances, especially in case of war and heavy suffering or oppression.
CaptCrash — 08/03/2022
New to this discord. This project interests me though, I hope it moves forward. Photography is an amazing way to understand things I may never otherwise encounter. If this is a way to support that endeavor I am all for it.
stinky odor — 08/03/2022
@Arielos I sure hope you're right, but the tone in here has me thinking otherwise
stinky odor — 08/03/2022
Just reviewed their marketplace, I have only seen one transaction in the last three weeks. If I was a hodler expecting a secondary market, I would be feeling some pressure right now
chackiejan — 09/03/2022
I don't think there's any pressure on nft holders because AP isn't going to shut down the marketplace after selling a few NFT's and potentially opening themselves up to lawsuits.
stinky odor — 09/03/2022
My guess is that they're going to keep the marketplace up until they finish their tool for exporting them to openseas
Then they're gonna dip
chackiejan — 09/03/2022
AP photojournalists have done an incredible job in Ukraine and it would be stupid  to not to sell the photographs as NFT because that's exactly why this marketplace was set up for - to profit.
chackiejan — 09/03/2022
I'm gonna get some Febreze for you
stinky odor — 09/03/2022
Lol you're alright, chackie
CaptCrash — 09/03/2022
True
Fialho — 09/03/2022
hey
Zeekou — 09/03/2022
Amen
slipstream — 09/03/2022
@Brian | AP : another week has passed but still not progress 😠 Please provide ETA when NFTs will be ready for export to OS!
HeelTurn3 — 09/03/2022
I agree, pretty frustrating not to have any updates from the team for a week.
Zeekou — 09/03/2022
Is there any activity in the market place ?
stinky odor — 09/03/2022
Nope. Last I saw there has been one trade in the last three weeks
SteadyJenny — 10/03/2022
☀️🍄🐛
chackiejan — 10/03/2022
How does one see that? Does one know the total dollar amount of what NFT's have been sold for by AP?
CaptCrash — 10/03/2022
Thanks for the announcement update
ET — 10/03/2022
Any NFT that you open under the Community market you can view transaction history. It will show price in ETH not $
satanicgoat.eth — 12/03/2022
gm
marlen73.eth — 12/03/2022
Gm
Zeekou — 12/03/2022
Hi
Nahuel — 13/03/2022
Gm!
marlen73.eth — 13/03/2022
Gm
Nahuel — 14/03/2022
Have a nice day 🙂
ET — 14/03/2022
Good morning
David Burt — 14/03/2022
Hey everyone! I'm David -- I worked for The Atlantic for many years, and most recently I have helped lead the community at Foster, a community of writers. Excited to be here as such an great historic institution (the AP) jumps into NFTs -- feels like a ton of great potential 🙂 
Munkee — 15/03/2022
yo
marlen73.eth — 15/03/2022
GM
Nahuel — 15/03/2022
GM
Mauri Meyer — 15/03/2022
sup
HeelTurn3 — 15/03/2022
Another week, still no concrete updates. Got some beautiful photos in my account that I can’t do anything with!
Fhloston — 16/03/2022
I totally get where you coming from.   It’s going to happen very soon.  These beautiful photos will appear on your OS account.  Just running few more tests.   We are making this a two way integration to maximize value, utility, for nft  owners.   Buyers on OS will be able to claim back unlockable content, listen to photojournalism audio, see photo location, all when connecting wallet on apmarket after buying on OS. We also want  to cater to our card payment buyers and our creators too.  Few final tune ups
HeelTurn3 — 16/03/2022
Thank you for the update - I was actually wondering how it’d work with the associated content if you hit on OS, glad to hear you’ve got a cool solution to that!
chackiejan — 16/03/2022
Anyone from AP online? So many photographers have been hired for Ukraine. But zero nft? Don't give into woke cancel culture shit, get on minting.
Zeekou — 16/03/2022
Not disagreeing with you but I believe they are gonna be really careful with what they are gonna release.
Thomas — 17/03/2022
@Brian | AP  Any update on the marketing plan for this project?
Bronto — 21/03/2022
Hey is there any benefit to being in this discord anymore?
HeelTurn3 — 21/03/2022
Hopefully there will be more activity soon, but it’s been pretty quiet since getting hijacked a few weeks ago. Hoping for some more news this week about the future direction
Ethan - Zero2G — 22/03/2022
So.... is this project dead now?
marlen73.eth — 22/03/2022
👀
slipstream — 22/03/2022
Cmon, @Fhloston , give us some update. AP silence is confusing everyone here 😕
stinky odor — 23/03/2022
It's clearly dead, fellas.
They aren't going to call it officially until the finish the openseas offramp for the suckers who already wasted their money
Zeekou — 23/03/2022
And why are you here again?
stinky odor — 23/03/2022
The bantz
Zeekou — 23/03/2022
What a life lol
stinky odor — 23/03/2022
I'm curious if AP/Xooa has any legal liability when this all folds. Like if someone spent $500 on an nft in anticipation of a marketplace/community/etc, is it fraud if the project goes belly up? 
I know that all these nft projects use the anonymity to shield themselves from the consequences of their behavior, but AP isn't some offshore vaporware co
Zeekou — 23/03/2022
Good job! You asked and answered yourself! Have a great day
stinky odor — 23/03/2022
Just food for thought. Doubt the admins read this channel anymore, but a lot of "commonplace" practices in the crypto space are illegal in actual US markets. I'm curious when that's going to catch up to these smash n grabs
And poor AP can't just declare insolvency and run away
marlen73.eth — 23/03/2022
@stinky odor You bought???
Dwayne — 23/03/2022
No. We're here. No rug pull. We are working on a review of the photojournalism we mint. OS is coming soon.
HeelTurn3 — 24/03/2022
Thank you for the quick update. Is there any more concrete information you can share about future directions, timing, the previously mentioned airdrop, etc? I know these things take time but each week it seems there’s a vague message about things happening soon or “next week” but not many specifics. Thanks!
Fhloston — 24/03/2022
I too would like to see things moving faster, but AP is large organization so it takes  longer than we all would like.   All I hear in internal discussions are positive things, I wish I could share, but we need to let it run its course within AP.  Personally I see significant longevity in the project.  So we all need a bit more patience 
Fhloston — 24/03/2022
I can say that feedback from this discord community is taken seriously.  Everything from os integration, new mints, marketing,  airdrop is read and is discussed  seriously with the intent to come back to the community with concrete announcements as soon as possible. The fact it takes so long is understandably frustrating, but once AP is done with its review things should  start moving  much faster 
Ethan - Zero2G — 25/03/2022
ahh, classical big organization issues, understandable, thanks for the updates
HeelTurn3 — 25/03/2022
Makes complete sense, and we understand. Seemed like the project came out of the gates well and then stalled when a group took over the discord and asked AP to justify both NFTs as a whole and the field of photojournalism. I’m looking forward to seeing how the course is corrected - thanks!
chackiejan — 28/03/2022
Don't give into cancel culture. If your photographer can photograph it, you can sell it on your wire, you can make an NFT out of it. At the end of the day the money goes back to support photojournalism.
manos — 29/03/2022
I cant sign in to the marketplace , does anyone else have the same problem ?
nftenjoyer — 30/03/2022
Absolutely agreed. On that note, this AP photo won a Pulitzer prize, I would like to buy an NFT of it
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Thomas — 31/03/2022
I am able to log in
Just listed my edition of Wong Maye-E's Children's Palace on the community market if anyone is interested. Open to offers
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HeelTurn3 — 01/04/2022
Another week of silence…
Thomas — 04/04/2022
I get that AP folk may not be able to share details of what's happening internally, but the complete radio silence I don't find acceptable. 

There is no reason why there cannot be general updates, or at the very least replies to messages here, or things like the airdrop for the photo competition happening as promised.
Snarls Barkley — 04/04/2022
I assume this is a rug. There does not seem to be any sort of interest in getting this project going. I invested because it’s an established company I never thought this would be the result. I hope at the very least they will still transfer off their platform.
Arielos — 04/04/2022
I believe they are intentionally working on improving the tech issues and revising the while process of choices of photographers, photos and prices... but I agree, this silence is a bit strange and counter intuitive to nurture a community. They could have a lack of staff to consistently create info tips or events.? even just dropping some info about the history of the Associated Press or Photography could have been inspiring and keep everyone connected🧐🤯
No matter what, those who bought some of their photo NFTs bought something rare and related to high quality photo journalism.
@Thomas : If I were you I would keep them and not sell them for now. 😁
@nftenjoyer : This photo is truly heartbreaking... so much tenderness in it... mixed with the rawness of the accident or fire.
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Its not like there is anyone is buying anyway 😅. Will probably keep it, if only to remind myself to make better investment decisions 🤣
Thomas — 05/04/2022
I don't think it's a rug, AP has far more to lose in reputation that gain financially from what they have sold so far.

I'm just baffled at the current situation and fully understand that you feel that. I'm thinking maybe there is internal resistance to the project from other parts of the organization, esp after all that negative press (the only press the project has got) re the migrant boat nft. But that still doesn't explain why the discord has essentially been abandoned. For a journalism agency the lack of transparency is bizzare
Arielos — 05/04/2022
@Thomas : II believe you have not made a wrong decision. It is time the whome space lets  go of thinking short term or buys a digital asset to mainly resale if for a profit in tje short term. I did work in the arts where it is and was so precious to hold on to a limited edition series of printed photographs and lithographs. Hold on to your photos, print and frame them... one day tou will resale them as something soecial and rate,  created thanks to a high level photo reporter. I love these girls playing the accordeon by the way. There is something very poetic about this photo and one can imagine their faces , which brings a sense of mystery to this photo.😃
Apologies for the typos... I meant one day you will resale them for their uniqueness and rarity.
@Thomas : Sure. Silence feels strange in the Discord space... where there usually is so much noise. I believe this NFT experiment has shaken a bit the institution ...which opened in 1846. There are probably some tech and editioral issues to solve and possibly some conflicts of interest combined with the controversial ideas of raising money on photos showing bits of the history of wars, conflicts and natural disasters, choosing the work of alive photographers vs thise who have passed away... etc... However, everyone has a point here; finding ways to keep the community intrigued and interested would have been a good idea.
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Hey I fully agree with you that the nft space needs to stop thinking about purchases completely in terms of profits, and I have been contributing to the marketing for a photography DAO who are really alligned with this value.

But buying NFTs at $500 (representing a decent chunk of my monthly income) a pop is still an investment, however you look at it. Just as if I can bought a print or a limited edition photography book. Even if I want to hold onto it (I don't buy prints but have a number of books that are worth far more than I paid that I'll never part with), I'd still hope at that the value would at least hold when I'm spending that kind of money.

It's also far to early in the space to assume that these digital assets will have long term value, especially when the organization behind them has got people thinking they have been conned.

I appreciate your sentiment though a lot, and it's why I bought into this project, the first NFT I ever purchased.
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Fully agree with you that there are likley internal issues, but that shouldn't prevent there being some form of communication here. All organizations have internal issues. At the company I work for we don't stop talking to our customers when we have them, even if those customers represent only a tiny part of our revenue.
Arielos — 05/04/2022
@Thomas : I tried to buy my first NFT here too and got stuck with tech issues. It takes a while and a lot of missed opportunities to understand how it works. The AP is a great label and this type of NFTs will appeal to true photo lovers, not low ball and flashy NFT celebrities.
Absolutely
They should have dropped a weekly note, at least to say hello😃
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Agreed this type of NFT, just not necessarily this project. Lots of fantastic photographers releasing NFTs now and doing a great job at it.
Nahuel — 05/04/2022
Happy to read some healthy discussion in this Discord. We are part of this community and have a foot on the future in valuable NFT art. The world of NFT photography is arising and it might take some time till huge recognized companies like AP learn who to fully get into it. It is important to show that we are here and we still believe in this project and the team involved.
Nahuel — 05/04/2022
It was also my first NFT 😋
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Cool!
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Respectfully I differ on your last point. I think it's more important that the AP team shows that they still believe in this project, which I'm not seeing.
Arielos — 05/04/2022
They could be believing in the project but missing the point in keeping  the communication flowing, even when there is no planned drop.
Nahuel — 05/04/2022
I am not seeing that either and I hope that we can have some good news soon. I have contacted Xooa's market support and got inmediate response. They said that the AP leadership decided to pause the activity for a short time but 'they will go back to action sooner than later'
Thomas — 05/04/2022
Yes likewise, hope we see some good news soon
Spatn2020 — 05/04/2022
Well, somehow we have no choice for now. We are stuck on their market place and have to wait at least for the transfer to OS. But anyhow, my photo was also one of my first NFTs (and by far the most expensive) and I am not planning to sell it soon. I wonder why AP didn't start with solely light topics like science or nature before approaching more delicate ones. But I like the idea of showing the mods that we are here and waiting for good news. 🙂
stinky odor — 06/04/2022
Finally a useful scoop, thank you. I am still not entirely confident though. Why couldn't they have said that here?
Nahuel — 06/04/2022
In my opinion, because AP exists since 1846 and has recently been through a severe communication crisis that made them re-think twice what they are doing and how. In every organization that takes obvious time and you would not want to take a slip again.
stinky odor — 06/04/2022
I see. My theory is that the AP images nft project was always viewed as an "experiment", even internally. Everyone knows nfts are divisive. After the pushback with the whole migrant thing, and the weak secondary market, they nixxed the whole program
But, obviously, they aren't going to outright say it's over. Instead they'll use terms like "suspended" or "on hiatus" or "under review"
Going out quietly is less likely to cause negative headlines than the alternative
You can't reasonably expect someone like Dwayne to come out here and say "thanks for the cash fellas see ya never" and it not blow up in aps face
Again, my two cents. For all I know they could show back up and start going full steam ahead. But you know, without a doubt, if they ever use the official AP images twitter to promote another drop they're going to get brigaded
Fidel Everywhere — 06/04/2022
I spoke with someone on the xooa team and they said they aren’t going anywhere and are working towards future drops.
stinky odor — 06/04/2022
My prediction: denied lol
Fidel Everywhere — 06/04/2022
Denial? On whose part?
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Yeah agreed, the whole project screams of lack of planning & attention to detail, and looks like there is resistence within the organization to the project.

This interview gives good context: https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/02/07/meet-the-man-behind-associated-press-crypto-strategy/
Meet the Man Behind Associated Press' Crypto Strategy
Dwayne Desaulniers is running the news agency's increasingly ambitious blockchain experiments – from NFTs to Chainlink nodes.
Meet the Man Behind Associated Press' Crypto Strategy
stinky odor — 07/04/2022
Nice find. Very good read for contextualizing.
Dwayne seems like a good dude
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Yes indeed
slipstream — 07/04/2022
That interview is all good except for this shaky statement
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slipstream — 07/04/2022
AP NFT was my first and only NFT buy because I did not see value in all other "Apes&Punks" NFT projects flooding marketplaces as they are lacking solid background. AP on the other hand, has very credible background and I was hooked on it as soon as I saw announcement in January. It all started very optimistically - periodic drops, interviews with staff&photojournalists on twitter, active and growing community; but now it's all gone. Right now I'm disappointed because AP, being the only NFT project that seemed valuable to me, is loosing momentum. AP, please don't be silent!!!!11
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Oh dear 🤣
nftenjoyer — 07/04/2022
this 100%
I'm sure there's also legal questions AP wants to settle surrounding promising a secondary market and what happens if they just pull out of the whole thing.
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Nahuel — 07/04/2022
Hey! Nice to meet you. I would recommend you to write to [email protected]  so they can help you. Have a good day
Λ_Atlantas — 07/04/2022
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OyePajaron — 08/04/2022
hi who dis
nftenjoyer — 09/04/2022
Nice of Dwayne to reassure us it's not a rug pull in the announcement channel where no one can respond or otherwise ask questions. So much transparency from a journalism outlet.
HeelTurn3 — 11/04/2022
Just a sense of the timeline for which to expect concrete news would be helpful. Every week it’s “soon” 
nftenjoyer — Yesterday at 20:10
I don't think Dwayne knows, and if he did, he'd be disinclined to share it with us.
nftenjoyer — Yesterday at 20:31
Dwayne has bosses, and risk/legal/compliance/pr people to answer to, and to justify the project to, and I guarantee most of those people do not "get" NFTs like Dwayne and the AP NFT team do.
especially after the debacle










manos ? 29/03/2022
I cant sign in to the marketplace , does anyone else have the same problem ?
nftenjoyer ? 30/03/2022
Absolutely agreed. On that note, this AP photo won a Pulitzer prize, I would like to buy an NFT of it
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Thomas ? 31/03/2022
I am able to log in
Just listed my edition of Wong Maye-E's Children's Palace on the community market if anyone is interested. Open to offers
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HeelTurn3 ? 01/04/2022
Another week of silence?
Thomas ? 04/04/2022
I get that AP folk may not be able to share details of what's happening internally, but the complete radio silence I don't find acceptable. 

There is no reason why there cannot be general updates, or at the very least replies to messages here, or things like the airdrop for the photo competition happening as promised.
Snarls Barkley ? 04/04/2022
I assume this is a rug. There does not seem to be any sort of interest in getting this project going. I invested because it’s an established company I never thought this would be the result. I hope at the very least they will still transfer off their platform.
Arielos ? 04/04/2022
I believe they are intentionally working on improving the tech issues and revising the while process of choices of photographers, photos and prices... but I agree, this silence is a bit strange and counter intuitive to nurture a community. They could have a lack of staff to consistently create info tips or events.? even just dropping some info about the history of the Associated Press or Photography could have been inspiring and keep everyone connected??
No matter what, those who bought some of their photo NFTs bought something rare and related to high quality photo journalism.
@Thomas : If I were you I would keep them and not sell them for now. ?
@nftenjoyer : This photo is truly heartbreaking... so much tenderness in it... mixed with the rawness of the accident or fire.
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Its not like there is anyone is buying anyway ?. Will probably keep it, if only to remind myself to make better investment decisions ?
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
I don't think it's a rug, AP has far more to lose in reputation that gain financially from what they have sold so far.

I'm just baffled at the current situation and fully understand that you feel that. I'm thinking maybe there is internal resistance to the project from other parts of the organization, esp after all that negative press (the only press the project has got) re the migrant boat nft. But that still doesn't explain why the discord has essentially been abandoned. For a journalism agency the lack of transparency is bizzare
Arielos ? 05/04/2022
@Thomas : II believe you have not made a wrong decision. It is time the whome space lets  go of thinking short term or buys a digital asset to mainly resale if for a profit in tje short term. I did work in the arts where it is and was so precious to hold on to a limited edition series of printed photographs and lithographs. Hold on to your photos, print and frame them... one day tou will resale them as something soecial and rate,  created thanks to a high level photo reporter. I love these girls playing the accordeon by the way. There is something very poetic about this photo and one can imagine their faces , which brings a sense of mystery to this photo.?
Apologies for the typos... I meant one day you will resale them for their uniqueness and rarity.
@Thomas : Sure. Silence feels strange in the Discord space... where there usually is so much noise. I believe this NFT experiment has shaken a bit the institution ...which opened in 1846. There are probably some tech and editioral issues to solve and possibly some conflicts of interest combined with the controversial ideas of raising money on photos showing bits of the history of wars, conflicts and natural disasters, choosing the work of alive photographers vs thise who have passed away... etc... However, everyone has a point here; finding ways to keep the community intrigued and interested would have been a good idea.
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Hey I fully agree with you that the nft space needs to stop thinking about purchases completely in terms of profits, and I have been contributing to the marketing for a photography DAO who are really alligned with this value.

But buying NFTs at $500 (representing a decent chunk of my monthly income) a pop is still an investment, however you look at it. Just as if I can bought a print or a limited edition photography book. Even if I want to hold onto it (I don't buy prints but have a number of books that are worth far more than I paid that I'll never part with), I'd still hope at that the value would at least hold when I'm spending that kind of money.

It's also far to early in the space to assume that these digital assets will have long term value, especially when the organization behind them has got people thinking they have been conned.

I appreciate your sentiment though a lot, and it's why I bought into this project, the first NFT I ever purchased.
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Fully agree with you that there are likley internal issues, but that shouldn't prevent there being some form of communication here. All organizations have internal issues. At the company I work for we don't stop talking to our customers when we have them, even if those customers represent only a tiny part of our revenue.
Arielos ? 05/04/2022
@Thomas : I tried to buy my first NFT here too and got stuck with tech issues. It takes a while and a lot of missed opportunities to understand how it works. The AP is a great label and this type of NFTs will appeal to true photo lovers, not low ball and flashy NFT celebrities.
Absolutely
They should have dropped a weekly note, at least to say hello?
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Agreed this type of NFT, just not necessarily this project. Lots of fantastic photographers releasing NFTs now and doing a great job at it.
Nahuel ? 05/04/2022
Happy to read some healthy discussion in this Discord. We are part of this community and have a foot on the future in valuable NFT art. The world of NFT photography is arising and it might take some time till huge recognized companies like AP learn who to fully get into it. It is important to show that we are here and we still believe in this project and the team involved.
Nahuel ? 05/04/2022
It was also my first NFT ?
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Cool!
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Respectfully I differ on your last point. I think it's more important that the AP team shows that they still believe in this project, which I'm not seeing.
Arielos ? 05/04/2022
They could be believing in the project but missing the point in keeping  the communication flowing, even when there is no planned drop.
Nahuel ? 05/04/2022
I am not seeing that either and I hope that we can have some good news soon. I have contacted Xooa's market support and got inmediate response. They said that the AP leadership decided to pause the activity for a short time but 'they will go back to action sooner than later'
Thomas ? 05/04/2022
Yes likewise, hope we see some good news soon
Spatn2020 ? 05/04/2022
Well, somehow we have no choice for now. We are stuck on their market place and have to wait at least for the transfer to OS. But anyhow, my photo was also one of my first NFTs (and by far the most expensive) and I am not planning to sell it soon. I wonder why AP didn't start with solely light topics like science or nature before approaching more delicate ones. But I like the idea of showing the mods that we are here and waiting for good news. ?
stinky odor ? Yesterday at 18:00
Finally a useful scoop, thank you. I am still not entirely confident though. Why couldn't they have said that here?
Nahuel — 06/04/2022
In my opinion, because AP exists since 1846 and has recently been through a severe communication crisis that made them re-think twice what they are doing and how. In every organization that takes obvious time and you would not want to take a slip again.
stinky odor — 06/04/2022
I see. My theory is that the AP images nft project was always viewed as an "experiment", even internally. Everyone knows nfts are divisive. After the pushback with the whole migrant thing, and the weak secondary market, they nixxed the whole program
But, obviously, they aren't going to outright say it's over. Instead they'll use terms like "suspended" or "on hiatus" or "under review"
Going out quietly is less likely to cause negative headlines than the alternative
You can't reasonably expect someone like Dwayne to come out here and say "thanks for the cash fellas see ya never" and it not blow up in aps face
Again, my two cents. For all I know they could show back up and start going full steam ahead. But you know, without a doubt, if they ever use the official AP images twitter to promote another drop they're going to get brigaded
Fidel Everywhere — 06/04/2022
I spoke with someone on the xooa team and they said they aren’t going anywhere and are working towards future drops.
stinky odor — 06/04/2022
My prediction: denied lol
Fidel Everywhere — 06/04/2022
Denial? On whose part?
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Yeah agreed, the whole project screams of lack of planning & attention to detail, and looks like there is resistence within the organization to the project.

This interview gives good context: https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/02/07/meet-the-man-behind-associated-press-crypto-strategy/
Meet the Man Behind Associated Press' Crypto Strategy
Dwayne Desaulniers is running the news agency's increasingly ambitious blockchain experiments – from NFTs to Chainlink nodes.
Meet the Man Behind Associated Press' Crypto Strategy
stinky odor — 07/04/2022
Nice find. Very good read for contextualizing.
Dwayne seems like a good dude
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Yes indeed
slipstream — 07/04/2022
That interview is all good except for this shaky statement
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slipstream — 07/04/2022
AP NFT was my first and only NFT buy because I did not see value in all other "Apes&Punks" NFT projects flooding marketplaces as they are lacking solid background. AP on the other hand, has very credible background and I was hooked on it as soon as I saw announcement in January. It all started very optimistically - periodic drops, interviews with staff&photojournalists on twitter, active and growing community; but now it's all gone. Right now I'm disappointed because AP, being the only NFT project that seemed valuable to me, is loosing momentum. AP, please don't be silent!!!!11
Thomas — 07/04/2022
Oh dear 🤣
nftenjoyer — 07/04/2022
this 100%
I'm sure there's also legal questions AP wants to settle surrounding promising a secondary market and what happens if they just pull out of the whole thing.
Λ_Atlantas — 07/04/2022
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Nahuel — 07/04/2022
Hey! Nice to meet you. I would recommend you to write to [email protected]  so they can help you. Have a good day
Λ_Atlantas — 07/04/2022
thnaks
OyePajaron — 08/04/2022
hi who dis
nftenjoyer — 09/04/2022
Nice of Dwayne to reassure us it's not a rug pull in the announcement channel where no one can respond or otherwise ask questions. So much transparency from a journalism outlet.
HeelTurn3 — Yesterday at 20:55
Just a sense of the timeline for which to expect concrete news would be helpful. Every week it’s “soon” 
nftenjoyer — Today at 20:10
I don't think Dwayne knows, and if he did, he'd be disinclined to share it with us.
nftenjoyer — Today at 20:31
Dwayne has bosses, and risk/legal/compliance/pr people to answer to, and to justify the project to, and I guarantee most of those people do not "get" NFTs like Dwayne and the AP NFT team do.
especially after the debacle

####END ap-general log####

####Beginning of ap-announcements log####
Brian | AP — 01/03/2022
@everyone To our community, 
The team curating the NFT marketplace is pausing any new drops while we review our NFT photo selection process. We will let you know when drops resume.
Brian | AP — 10/03/2022
@everyone
Project Update
Hi everyone, we are still working behind the scenes on a number of items for our project. Thank you all for your patience. 

OpenSea Integration
Currently in QA, targeting availability next week. More details to come. 

Snapshot / Airdrop
Working on the distribution mechanism and how best to ensure the drops have value.
Dwayne — 05/04/2022
Hello everyone. As you know, we've been reviewing everything from our drop details to the content we select and more. Rest assured, there is no rug pull! We're looking forward to continuing our work in this exciting space and will keep you updated on our plans.