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The Associated Press NFT Discord Chat v4: You can't ban the truth
The AP again banned my (2nd) account from their discord and purged all those comments (user: nftenjoyer). This log includes all my comments up until 2022-04-26.
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nftenjoyer — 09/04/2022
Nice of Dwayne to reassure us it's not a rug pull in the announcement channel where no one can respond or otherwise ask questions. So much transparency from a journalism outlet.
HeelTurn3 — 11/04/2022
Just a sense of the timeline for which to expect concrete news would be helpful. Every week it’s “soon”
nftenjoyer — 12/04/2022
I don't think Dwayne knows, and if he did, he'd be disinclined to share it with us.
nftenjoyer — 12/04/2022
Dwayne has bosses, and risk/legal/compliance/pr people to answer to, and to justify the project to, and I guarantee most of those people do not "get" NFTs like Dwayne and the AP NFT team do.
especially after the debacle
stinky odor — 15/04/2022
Another week...
HeelTurn3 — 15/04/2022
@Dwayne been about 10 days since the last update of any sort. I know these things move slowly, but any update or reassurances you can provide to those few of us who still check in here periodically?
efi — 16/04/2022
im still here too.. not sayin mcuh but watching..... waiting..... :PepeRain:
nftenjoyer — 16/04/2022
HeelTurn3 — 19/04/2022
Amazing that it’s been two days since someone posted a literal video of a rug pull and there’s still no acknowledgment
slipstream — 19/04/2022
... and there’s still no acknowledgment
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nftenjoyer — 19/04/2022
well, what do we expect from people who were like "ethical guidelines? why would we need those?"
nftenjoyer — 19/04/2022
now2030 — 20/04/2022
:CryingCool:
marlen73.eth — 20/04/2022
And...???
@mods
HeelTurn3 — 20/04/2022
Are there mods here any more?
@Leslie Spurlock @Xooa Zach @JenACoop @Brian | AP
marlen73.eth — 20/04/2022
yes, in silence for weeks
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
They come in and out, Dwayne was here recently.
they just never comment
marlen73.eth — 20/04/2022
it's been like this for a while
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
to be fair, the last time Dwayne got to respond to people without a strong corporate filter, he came out with "fuck the open web"
I'm not surprised all we're getting is a heavily sanitised "just hang in there" msg in a channel where no one can respond or question them
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
Hey gang. I’m a mod, but unfortunately, I don’t have any info regarding what’s happening.
(Was made a mod by X due to my support for AP, but I don’t work for them and thus don’t have the insider info I know you’d like to hear)
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
appreciated
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
But meanwhile the rate of people leaving the server is higher than those joining. This is not good.
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
No. It’s not.
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
how's the secondary market looking? is anyone who's already bought in able to actually sell at less than a loss?
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
I don’t know. Haven’t checked the secondary. My intent was to but and lock away the NFTs I bought. So the secondary didn’t interest me. Does anyone else have more insight?
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
There is no secondary market. Just offers. No sales. For weeks now...
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
Offers by people wanting to buy in? That’s a start I suppose (for those looking to sell).
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
No, I meant sales offers.
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
Ah
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
I didn't list mine by the way. 🙂
marlen73.eth — 20/04/2022
I can't even move it
Fidel Everywhere — 20/04/2022
I have some thoughts on what MIGHT be happening, but you have to promise to take it only as my opinion, and not representing X or AP in any way.
Let me finish my dinner then I’ll post.
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
Enjoy your meal. One week sooner or later does not make a difference now. 🙂
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
What do you mean with "moving"?
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
It's a sad state of affairs when a volunteer mod is being more responsive than anyone at Xooa or the ASSOCIATED PRESS
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
I agree.
Especially true for a news agency being appreciated for delivering transparent regular news.
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
thing is, they already banned journalists from here when the migrant boat thing went down, and purged a day and a half of comments
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
Hm, in my understanding a professional handling of mistakes is somehow different.
You make a wrong decision, you have to cope with the shitstorm. You learn from the mistake and won't make it again.
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
I'd agree. unfortunately there's an enormous gap in comments & discussion in this channel due to all the comments Dwayne & Brian et al deleted. makes it hard to trust them when they just refuse to engage anyone for weeks.
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
Yep. This destroys every community.
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
and now this server is a walled garden for those already/still invested in it.
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
Proprietary market places are dangerous. This is what I learned now.
nftenjoyer — 20/04/2022
one advantage here is that the AP can't just slink off into the night with the money. When this crashes & burns they should make everyone whole. They made a lot of promises & clearly did little to no due diligence before rushing into sales.
marlen73.eth — 20/04/2022
Other marketplace
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
That is my hope too. At least the transfer to OS would be crucial.
Spatn2020 — 20/04/2022
Ah ok. Yes, we are stuck atm.
Fidel Everywhere — 21/04/2022
Sorry gang, dinner turned into drinks, a movie and a night out 😅
The thoughts that I had was:
1. Yeah, what you all mentioned about journalists/rights/IRL news/media being turned into NFTs might possibly be causing friction.
2. Perhaps it’s simply that they’re one of the largest news/media sources in the world and didn’t realize the NFT space was a beast on its own they’d need staff for that they didn’t have (mods/social media managers/community managers, etc) so they’re simply unprepared.
3. This might be a stretch but, perhaps they simply ARE just working on sorting out some of the kinks and don’t feel the need to update us on the regular like most projects/marketplaces/Discord servers do naturally.
I’ll be honest though, I’m in more of a unique position than a lot of others in the server. I’ve been a collector for a while now, and was guided purely by the concept of one of my photojournalist agency heroes (AP) producing NFTs. I wanted Pulitzer Prize winning work, and have no intent on selling. Sure, I’d like to see the AP marketplace link up/switch over to other marketplaces, but solely for the pleasure of showing my work to a broader audience. I’m not interested in moving to OS to put anything on secondary. So I feel your pain, but I don’t share it.
With allll of that said however, yes, AP should be better prepared to coddle/update/handle the small community it’s amassed here.
And I’m still ready and able to help with that (as much as I was when they asked me to mod).
4a here in Italy, gotta hit those proverbial sheets, so GN, and hopefully we’ll have more answers in the near future.
Fidel Everywhere — 21/04/2022
HeelTurn3 — 21/04/2022
Thanks for the thoughts, though one thing I’d also point out is that asking about open sea/metamask isn’t just about selling for profit. I also love the art and bought in to support photojournalism, but I also have a lot of other stuff stored on OS that I’d eventually like to be able to display (like on a token frame or something). Having my whole collection in one place seems like it’d make that much easier - if I just wanted a high res jpg I could right click-save! But now this art is siloed away from everything else - it’s like if I bought a piece of art in a gallery and was told that in a week I could take it home, but then when I come back in a week I’m told that it has to stay in the gallery and only people who know to look for it there (down a deserted alley, alone) will ever be able to see it. Oh and by the way, before the gallery shut down, they told me that I’d get a special reward for being an early adopter which was never delivered.
yaozers3 — 22/04/2022
Honestly, this is no surprise given what the rest of world has seen of real life / web2 companies going into web3 space. Very few of them know enough to know what they don't know. And all of them I've seen get hit by lack of knoweldge or skill/talent needed to do what's needed. Some of them have figured it out in their own way, but it takes time. Hopefully that's what AP needs, some time. My NFTs weren't going anywhere, so it doesn't bother me that much, but I'd also like to see some assurance I didn't just burn my ETH here
HeelTurn3 — 22/04/2022
Totally agree.. Time has managed to do some interesting things for an old media company, so I guess I was hoping that maybe AP or others could follow their lead. At the end of the day, if nothing else, I’ve got some amazing photos I can get professionally printed and hang on the wall which will look amazing.
nftenjoyer — 22/04/2022
HeelTurn3 — Yesterday at 12:40
I’m impressed by your seemingly endless supply of rug pull gifs
nftenjoyer — Yesterday at 13:17
they're all just from discord search
HeelTurn3 — Yesterday at 14:35
The good news is that it just told me I made level 4 in this discord server! From posting a couple times wondering what is going on I guess.
nftenjoyer — Yesterday at 18:55
Hi @Xooa Zach, I know it's the weekend, but from Xooa's perspective, do you have any sense of when we can expect a substantive update from the AP?
nftenjoyer — 24/04/2022
morning @Brian | AP
nftenjoyer — 24/04/2022
efi — Yesterday at 15:17
its crazy that you're online @Brian | AP and noone has commented in here in how long
like sheesh put invisible mode on at least. such a vibe
efi — Yesterday at 15:27
on a less toxic note i own ~10 pieces including a 1/1, have participated in almost every drop, an thrilled to have collected these images and I really couldnt care less about an opensea integration etc. I hope the project picks back up and I hope this vacant vibe doesn't kill the project. its depressing to be hoping that 3/10 announcement stands but wondering if you're just being waited out
nftenjoyer — Yesterday at 15:28
we go now to a live look at the AP NFT project:*
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Carol — Today at 13:38
yo
any updates on the project in general?
it seems like the market is frozen
nothing moves since 2m ago
Fhloston — Today at 15:34
Folks this week is probably the week.
nftenjoyer — Today at 15:40
the week for what?
Fhloston — Today at 15:51
OS integration release, drops resumption, airdrop, nft utility. We’re looking as some immersive experiences too (but not this week). Working through final details.
HeelTurn3 — Today at 16:14
Thanks for the updates! Fingers crossed
takeshi — Today at 16:56
nice
nftenjoyer — Today at 17:36
will that include the ethical guidelines document that @Brian | AP promised back at the end of February?
takeshi — 26/04/2022
nice
yaozers3 — 26/04/2022
Woah!
marlen73.eth — 27/04/2022
😱
Dwayne — 28/04/2022
Hello @everyone! Thanks for your patience over the past weeks. We’ve been busy and have some long-awaited updates for you. First, the airdrop! We’ve selected a collection of unique, interesting and historic images from the AP photo archive. The drop will be on Wednesday, May 4th!
Second, the withdrawal feature many of you have asked for is now in production. If any of our collectors would like to export their NFTs to OpenSea, you can now do so. Check out our FAQ for instructions or navigate to My NFTs, and then use the Withdraw action under More.
takeshi — 28/04/2022
there was no option for Opensea
Fhloston — 28/04/2022
Follow the withdrawal prompts , it will end up here https://opensea.io/collection/ap-nft-marketplace
OpenSea
AP NFT Marketplace - Collection | OpenSea
AP photojournalism marketplace is your gallery for the best in photojournalism NFTs. To claim unlockable content and enjoy rich metadata after purchasing on Opensea, Signup and connect your wallet on apmarket.xooa.com.
AP NFT Marketplace - Collection | OpenSea
takeshi — 28/04/2022
ok seeing it now
☀ 🇮🇹 Filippo 🇧🇪🍺 — 28/04/2022
Finally a great news! Well done AP team
I have a question, are u going to ask for the verification on opensea or not?
Fhloston — 28/04/2022
AP and Xooa require KYC to list for resale on the AP Marketplace. We have no control on OpenSea KYC policies
HeelTurn3 — 28/04/2022
Great news! Can’t wait to see what the next steps are
marlen73.eth — Yesterday at 15:41
has anyone moved the photo to OS?
it was easy?
Nahuel — Yesterday at 16:04
Just did it and it worked. You have to go to My NFTs, clik More on the picture and select Withdraw
Floor price is 1 ETH right now
marlen73.eth — Yesterday at 16:15
Done. very easy
yaozers3 — Yesterday at 17:26
How much does it cost to move the NFTs?
Nahuel — Yesterday at 17:35
no cost
yaozers3 — Yesterday at 18:15
that's great!
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