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seb green
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mineyourbiz
AKASeth Estrada
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Dies ist der Anfang deines Direktnachrichtenverlaufs mit @mineyourbiz.
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 19:43 Uhr
Hey Seb, there is plenty of controversy to get a huge crowd to an interview.
My job- well, as I've outlined it- is to remain as impartial as possible during such interviews.
If you are interested in an interview, please let me know.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:04 Uhr
interview on what topic?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:04 Uhr
Just one: cryptoknight.cc
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:05 Uhr
ok
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:05 Uhr
:thumbsup:
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:05 Uhr
how long?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:06 Uhr
I normally shoot for 60 minutes: audience questions can draw it out in length from 90 minutes up to 150.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:06 Uhr
you have so many questions?
wow
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:06 Uhr
The community often does.
My questions are sort of canonical startup questions.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:07 Uhr
will there be a quality questioner?(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:07 Uhr
Meaning what exactly?
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:07 Uhr
will there be intereligent questions
or just question about internet rumors I can't answer anyway(bearbeitet)
will there be real technical questions?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:09 Uhr
I understand. No: rumors, accusations, expose, and drama are not what I promote on the show.
There will be some technical questions directly from me, and I will filter quality questions from the community.
The entire thrust of the show is to improve the general IQ of the mining community.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:10 Uhr
then you would need to ask better questions
the heaven interview
not a single real question
there is so many problem with haven
none of them were spoken about
it's basically false advertizement
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:12 Uhr
Now you are advocating an expose, which I am capable of doing.
Is that how you would prefer I approach your interview?
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:12 Uhr
Iam not sure what people will gain from the interview when there are no real questions
but ok
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:13 Uhr
The Haven interview in particular is not my favorite.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:13 Uhr
there is people who think they may get certain answers, but that won't happen
I think thats the motivation behind it, we can do it for them, but they will not be happy with the result :smile:
that will only expose them not me(bearbeitet)
and will be not very interesting for anyone
I will have my fun(bearbeitet)
noone else
my positon is that all cnote coins are total bullshit
thats why people hate me
their problem, because the coins are bullshit for a fact
easy to prove
I worked 20 years in IT security as consultant
Deutsche Telekom AG
Metro AG
those kids have zero clue about anything
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:20 Uhr
I'm glad that you are confident. That is important for any first time interviewee.
It's also great that you'll have a rich career history to draw from in answering questions.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:20 Uhr
I can destroy any coin dev in a 1:1
with facts
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:20 Uhr
Great- might have you back on a panel interview.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:20 Uhr
not with emotion
haven for example has one pool only basically
so the exchnages can be robbed ANY TIME
there is ZERO privacy or security at haven
one entity controls the network
and they take a huge fee and deliver ZERO
so far they developed exactly ZERO
and their concept regatding storage is bullshit anyway
utter nonsense
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:23 Uhr
We'll have to talk about this on the show.
I think my community came to the same conclusion from my interview- since I got them to admit openly that they haven't done any development outside of forking XMR.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:23 Uhr
but they cashed out two figures BTC
awesome job in that regard at least!
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:23 Uhr
This is why helping so-called "anon" devs feel comfortable coming onto my show is so important.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:23 Uhr
zero was invested in the coin
invested in their private pocket for doing nothing beside click "fork"
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:24 Uhr
If they thought it was going to be a roast, they would never accept the invite, and never admit anything.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:24 Uhr
sure
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:24 Uhr
Society needs all types.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:24 Uhr
nobody needs haven(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:25 Uhr
LOL, you're probably right.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:25 Uhr
there is no gain for nobody except for the devs
they cashed out bigly
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:25 Uhr
I'm sure you saw Rocksteady & me fork TRTL live?
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:25 Uhr
and they will walk away sooner or later because they have no actual dev to deliver anything beside roadmaps and "ideas"
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:25 Uhr
It was to prove a point: you don't even need to be a seasoned dev to do this stuff.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:26 Uhr
all governance coins are bullshit because you can just fork them and to the same with no fee
why anybody would pay a fee, when always the same can be done with no fee?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:27 Uhr
I think Linux governance models are a place to look for guidance moving forward there.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:27 Uhr
the governance fee coins are pure scam
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:27 Uhr
Rather, linux commercialization, not governance per se.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:27 Uhr
everyone supporting them, supports a scam scheme
thats a fact
simple logic
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:28 Uhr
That may be true. But people also need to decide for themselves.
Grandma doesn't use Linux.
Grandma doesn't use GIMP.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:28 Uhr
but they can't decide it they don't even know about the basic facts
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:28 Uhr
She could learn them, but who will pay to teach her?
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:28 Uhr
they don't know that their idea is technical nonsense
but they will find out :smile:
the hard way...
haven can fail any given day
because all hashpower at one pool
who with a clear mind would invest ?
even bittube and etn is not safe
basically only monero is
but the situation at haven couldn't be worse(bearbeitet)
and they try to hide the fact
most cnotes are in a very bad shape
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:32 Uhr
Agreed. Even as a non-dev I can see that.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:33 Uhr
I can prove that most of them are technically incompetent
horribly incompetent
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:33 Uhr
Let's talk about that when we interview- I think the show will be very interesting.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:33 Uhr
altex was robbed precisely because of that incompetence
50-100 btc lost
the miners will have to pay that
the show will go on as if nothing happend
nobody will ask what went wrong
events like the altex coup display: those coins are wortless crap
you can lose them any day without warning
TO only survies because I wanr them on anything suspisious
Me on the "other side" and all those coins are gone :smile:
I have a few "toys"
I can play with many of the coins
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:41 Uhr
Seb, this is why I mentioned telling your story: a few people appear to simply misunderstand what you are trying to do, prove, or teach.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:42 Uhr
" a few people appear"
who exactly cares about a few kids ?
this is what most people think:
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:44 Uhr
Today I do.
And simply talking about it frankly will help some people move on.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:44 Uhr
maybe
but likely the people wanted the interview so badly will look very bad
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:44 Uhr
LOL, quite possibly.
No matter. It will be a good interview.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:45 Uhr
gatekeeper is on a lost position
he is an ex employee fired for his incompetence everybody noticed(bearbeitet)
so how that will look when he issues questions?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:45 Uhr
That is precisely why I filter questions.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:46 Uhr
you don't need to filter
I can answer ANY question ZERO problem
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:46 Uhr
Nevertheless it's my channel, so I do.
When I worked as a corporate trainer, I often had to manage large classrooms with corporate brass standing in the room, trying to interrupt, brow-beat, and sometimes get the technical stuff very wrong.
The conversation is much better when a seasoned facilitator guides it.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:49 Uhr
true
the thing with gatekeeper is the so called "controversy" does not exits. And I can close this issue with 4 sentences and then there is still 60 minutes to go, and likely all the questions those people prepared are answered in those 4 sentences
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:51 Uhr
LOL, possibly, but I have more. It will still be a very good interview.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:51 Uhr
what format ?
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:52 Uhr
Zoom video conference, so we can share screen & do live markup of the screen.
I typically publish live videos to YouTube.
Saber & Joko want me to go live on bittube more often, but it's not always possible.
Plus they only give tips for their precious xxx subdomain.
It bothers me that they pay more for boobs than brains.
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:54 Uhr
btw. I did youtube streams in the past
live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkbmYjM4df0&t=21706s
YouTube
Seb Green
St. Louis - Police Clashes - Undercover Cops Exposed - RebZ arrest...
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 20:55 Uhr
This channel, right?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaxGY-scK6rRDAR3JCwJunQ/videos
YouTube
Seb Green
Multi-Angle Livestreaming rated: satire ; channel of @sebseb7 ; Technology and Politics
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 20:56 Uhr
yes
older videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwh0lnHydcE9Ikdjj5X6z6A
YouTube
Seb Green - LIVE
mineyourbizletzten Mittwoch um 21:29 Uhr
Nice
If you are willing to talk about cryptoknight.cc and the proliferation of junk coins on my channel, what would be the best time for you?
seb greenletzten Mittwoch um 23:45 Uhr
" to talk about cryptoknight.cc "
there is nothing I have to say about cryptoknight , as everyone can see it's a pool like so many others. I don't want to paint a specific picture or tell a specific story
2. August 2018
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:07 Uhr
No problem. I respect that.
What I would definitely like to talk to you about is cryptonote proliferation: I forked a CN coin precisely to show that it is the easiest thing in the world to do.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:08 Uhr
and it's ALREADY better
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:08 Uhr
LOL, actually yes: my stupid little Canary already has better community support than 80% of all CN coins.
And it's technically chain dead, LOL!
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:09 Uhr
we will make a few fixes, bittube will pull them. bam: we even have contributed. noone else has.
but there is not much need to talk about this
I not a talker Iam a doer
actions will speak for themselfes
over time
I don't need to announce what Iam going to demonstrate(bearbeitet)
sit back and watch
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:11 Uhr
It's understandable why you think this way- but there is power in spending a little bit of time to help others understand why you are working in the direction you have chosen.
Sort of the hacker/hustler idea that Y-Combinator promotes.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:12 Uhr
I can see already: staments will be taken out of context, I doubt I will help on education
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:12 Uhr
That is why I facilitate.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:12 Uhr
most people will not even accept that truth
that all their investemnts are pure bullshit
so they won't listen anyway
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:13 Uhr
I had to tell XILINX's rep, to their face, some hard truths in Ohio when I visited.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:13 Uhr
the people watching won't accept the truth
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:13 Uhr
Many engineers and developers get caught up in the the "right approach" to creating the "right" technology.
So much so that it often helps to have a 3rd party in the room to simply ask "who has a different idea?"
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:14 Uhr
my advise t the public would be: sell all your cryptonote coins as soon as you can
who would that look like?
they will only attack me on that
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:15 Uhr
Not on my show.
Not on my watch,
I bring people onto my show to be heard.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:15 Uhr
so there is NO WAY I can improve my perception, because soon as I tell the truth the perception will be even worse...(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:16 Uhr
Hmmm, it's a tough situation, but in our conversation I'm seeing your passion and coming to understand your view much better.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:16 Uhr
Iam here to stay
my costs of living are covered for years
my first contact to btc was at 12ct
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:17 Uhr
:open_mouth:
Wow.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:17 Uhr
"how can you tun the pools at 0%, thats IMPOSSIBLE"
I run them for fun & research
most people never will understand that
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:17 Uhr
Well, that might not be the best place to start, because there are also legitimately bad actors out there as well.
You know, the kidnap/torture types.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:18 Uhr
mostly bad actors
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:19 Uhr
I still think your views on cryptonotes has to be heard- from you - to be believed.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:20 Uhr
let the chips fall where they may, I have a plan let's see who else... Why announce too much of my plan?
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:20 Uhr
So don't announce it- let's merely talk about cryptonotes.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:21 Uhr
it would be very controverse
because my basic position would be: it's all total crap
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:21 Uhr
No problem.
I haven't had enough guests on my channel who share that viewpoint.
Mostly small projects forking XMR hopeful to roadmap their way to success.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:22 Uhr
thats the problem with hype
it's unrealistic
how would a 18year with zero coding skills develop anything?(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:23 Uhr
Yeah. Same with several of the ZEC forks.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:23 Uhr
you can prove using their own repos they have zero skills
one ugly hack after another
laughable
and people buy it
because of the "roadmap" that will never materialize
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:24 Uhr
Well, VC's will buy anything if you sell it to them correctly.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:25 Uhr
sure
not critiziing that
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:25 Uhr
Same with angels.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:25 Uhr
I just state my opinion
people can buy anything they want
it's likely to make profit using cryptonotes
by selling to people even more stupd than yorself
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:26 Uhr
I agree however that fleecing the general public- unqualified investors- of their money is morally wrong.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:26 Uhr
there is no problem with morality
there problem is that lots of people doing uneducated investments will loose a lot of money and it their sole fault
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:27 Uhr
I suppose I mean to say that it is distressing enough that the SEC stepped in, at least to curb the ICO epidemic.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:27 Uhr
noone else is to blame
you just have to check the repos to educate yourself
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:27 Uhr
But it brings us back to the "Educating Grandma" problem of crypto.
Which comes first?
Making it simple enough for Grandma to use?
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:28 Uhr
if gradma has no clue how this works, she should just stay out
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:28 Uhr
We're going to have to wait for a generation to die out before crypto is viable then.
But also simultaneously make the next generation an army of STEM wizard ninjas.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:29 Uhr
people from everywhere came to crypto and now think they can be successful investors
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:29 Uhr
Some have succeeded.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:29 Uhr
they will have to learn: thats not how it works
95% pay the show for the other 5%
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:30 Uhr
At least in the US, the percentage of large bag holders is greater for BTC than for USD.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:30 Uhr
and the 5% deliver nothing(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:30 Uhr
On some level, that is progress.
As sad as it may seem.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:30 Uhr
I can't see any progress
BTC is technicall basically advanced compared to say ETN
so the first coin is still the best
where is the progress?
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:31 Uhr
Only in terms of the early opportunity to obtain holdings.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:31 Uhr
they ask for the identity of IPBC, who btw. is behind BTC? nobody knows and nobody cares...
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:32 Uhr
LOL, I bring this up often on my show.
Could very well be the NSA
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:32 Uhr
it doesn't matter
because the code is there for everyone to see
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:32 Uhr
So is SELinux
So is TOR
Also state funded
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:33 Uhr
BTC isn't safe
TOR isn't either
everyone knows...
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:33 Uhr
No one should believe SELinux is either, BTW
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:33 Uhr
you can break btc in two hours
if you the gov:
you go to two major btc pools
and take over
then you have 51%
to destroy it immedeatly
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:34 Uhr
Venezuela is trying
Just not enough material resource to commandeer.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:34 Uhr
those pools are NOT out of reach
even a hacker could bring BTC down
by obtaining access to two major BTC pools
XHV is controlled by one pool btw.
ZERO decentralization
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:35 Uhr
Has that changed recently?
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:35 Uhr
one guy (also a total anon btw.) can kill it any second(bearbeitet)
it has not
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:35 Uhr
For some reason I thought your pool was one of a couple of options.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:36 Uhr
also I can kill a couple of coins if I would like to(bearbeitet)
no big deal
I don't know why everyone is speaking of decentralization when there is none?
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:37 Uhr
Right. Another topic that comes up frequently on my show: pools & NH are a greater threat than ASICs.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:37 Uhr
thats bullshit
NH is no threat
ASIC also
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:38 Uhr
NH was directly responsible for the BTG attack.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:38 Uhr
the "war again ASICs" itself is the problem(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:38 Uhr
On that I partially agree: making a taboo creates more opportunity.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:38 Uhr
because when you pull up fences you only give advantage to those who can climb it
and their networks are at risk, because some people can climb it
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:39 Uhr
So again: I have it on very good authority that BTG lost $18M directly because of NH.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:39 Uhr
buy influencing the mining market they create major loopholes(bearbeitet)
it's needs to develop by the forces of the market
"directly because of NH"
no they lost because their coin is insecure. NH only demonstrates that insecurity.
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:40 Uhr
LOL, true.
BTG is... interesting.
But I know that NH was used in perpetrating the attack, & exploiting that insecurity.
Rather, inside sources at BTG allege that it was.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:42 Uhr
if NH not existed, outer tools would have been used
the problem still exists with or without NH
thats like saying "the thieves destroying the lock market"
because they make it obvious the locks are bullshit
blmaing nicehash is like a lock manufacoter blaming police not to apear timely
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:44 Uhr
Ah, yes.
At the same time, for generations, fairly rudimentary locks have worked because they reinforce a social observance of mutually agreed upon rules.
"Please don't steal my things- see I have a lock"
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:45 Uhr
there are no agreed on rules in crypto except for the code the manages he blockchain
"please don't mine our coin THAT WAY, we intended it to be mined by small miners only"(bearbeitet)
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:46 Uhr
This is kind of a rapey argument though: "she was asking for it by not having a taser, wearing a chastity belt, and carrying a loaded firearm"
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:46 Uhr
crypto enables total anonymity
but they call for cooperation between miners
how would that work?
if you play better you win
you will be called "bad actor"
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:48 Uhr
Agreed: that is a fine line, and a tough balance to try to achieve.
But the "possible, so right" argument is inherently rapey.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:49 Uhr
"I don't mine for profit, I mine to support this coins network stability"
what a nonsense
so of the coins network stability depends on selfless miners, how can that even work?
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:50 Uhr
Right. It has to be incentivized somehow.
Otherwise we're back at SETI and Folding@home
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:50 Uhr
the incentives are wrong
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:50 Uhr
Also agreed. They must be better aligned with the realities.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:50 Uhr
and people don't even care
becaue 95% follow their gut not facts
my plan is to provide a coin that will beat ANY other cnote , but my plan is also to not talk about it too much, just demonstrate it...
I don't need a roadmap
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 01:53 Uhr
That makes sense.
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 01:53 Uhr
I will surrender ownership over the github repo to a foundation(bearbeitet)
no other coin has that except monero
so the single point of control by one dev is gone
also there will be an open network of seeds
everyone can make a seed
so no single control over seeds
and so on
I will take on every issue
I have not added a premine
I will just buy the coin
I will buy my own coin
thats means I give money to other people instead of taking money from other people(bearbeitet)
will take a while until people will fully understand what I am about to do
maybe months
mineyourbizletzten Donnerstag um 02:00 Uhr
No spoilers from me then.
I will just act surprised, LOL
seb greenletzten Donnerstag um 02:02 Uhr
there will be no secrets either
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