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2013-08-23 18:49:13     SWW13   are any devs around here?
2013-08-23 18:49:40     sjohnson        yes.
2013-08-23 18:53:02     SWW13   have you thought about switching from sourceforge to another source code provider? i have downlaoded fillezilla some minutes ago and i have installed with some "maleware" with the sourcefotge downloader without seeing any checkbox to not install it. filezilla is nice but an maleware installer from sourceforge doesn't looks that nice :/
2013-08-23 18:53:26     sjohnson        i am not a dev.
2013-08-23 18:53:42     sjohnson        i have heard a few complaints about this though.
2013-08-23 18:54:27     SWW13   oh, but i would like to hear if there is an reason why they don't switch
2013-08-23 18:54:52     sjohnson        ask codesquid_
2013-08-23 18:54:59     sjohnson        (well, he'll probably see what you just wrote.)
2013-08-23 18:55:11     @codesquid_     hi
2013-08-23 18:55:20     SWW13   after the ping, i think he did
2013-08-23 18:55:31     SWW13   oh well, he did :D hi :)
2013-08-23 18:56:36     @codesquid_     SWW13, no, not considering to switch
2013-08-23 18:57:00     @codesquid_     as for the offered third-party software during setup, you can decline them
2013-08-23 18:58:01     SWW13   why?
2013-08-23 18:58:23     sjohnson        codesquid_: ah.. so you don't create the installer bundle yourself?  sourceforge does that?
2013-08-23 18:58:30     SWW13   i'm sure i can, but the checkbox or what ever it is is not really good to see. i haven't accidently installed any scram for while
2013-08-23 18:58:50     SWW13   sjohnson: thats not the installer it's an downlaoder from sourceforge
2013-08-23 18:58:56     @codesquid_     there's no checkbox, but a decline button right next to the agree button, of equal size
2013-08-23 18:59:03     SWW13   maybe there was another link for downlaoding
2013-08-23 18:59:17     sjohnson        let me see this for myself.
2013-08-23 18:59:25     sjohnson        about time i updated DirectoryZilla anyway
2013-08-23 18:59:48     sjohnson        ah
2013-08-23 18:59:53     sjohnson        indeed, SWW13 is correct.  i hate crap like this.
2013-08-23 19:00:13     sjohnson        Ask.com is the publisher.
2013-08-23 19:00:19     sjohnson        i would have to side with all the complaints I've heard.  i can't stand crap like this.
2013-08-23 19:00:28     sjohnson        reminds me of the Adobe DLM to download a 1MB flash plugin.
2013-08-23 19:02:03     SWW13   oh, in the small printed it says something about installing, it looks more like an Eula Accept or an add not like an installer of maleware
2013-08-23 19:05:05     sjohnson        codesquid_: what's your rationale for sticking with sourceforge?  just cause you don't care?  or maybe you owe them allegiance ?
2013-08-23 19:19:15     @codesquid_     quality of service and good past experience
2013-08-23 19:22:23     SWW13   sounds reasonable, but i don't think they are any longer a good choice.
2013-08-23 19:29:45     sjohnson        SWW13: sort of like they "sold out"
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2013-08-23 21:36:22     SWW13   oh btw: it doens't only makes it hard to see that your are installing adware it also didn't say what it really installs. there are a set of adware / scareware which are randomly selected, e.g. "WinZip" which doesn't install WinZip the unarchiver it installs a WinZip System Scan Tool what randomly shows drivers that instantly have to be updated which is only possible with the premium version...
2013-08-23 21:37:48     sjohnson        SWW13: while i agree with your points about why sourceforge has sold out.  (if that's what you are saying).
2013-08-23 21:37:59     sjohnson        that said, most people have learned by now to make sure not to install all that bullshit they pile into installers.
2013-08-23 21:38:11     sjohnson        some are notorious for not even listening to you though.  PDF Forge / PDF Creator is a classic example.
2013-08-23 21:38:22     sjohnson        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF_creator#Adware_toolbar_controversy
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