Core team's discussion about base/

Discussion about Base

Amanda	I'm slightly confused by Refinery having both base and core
Philip	THAT IS STEVEN
:P
http://github.com/resolve/refinerycms/wiki…
I use caps when I don't mean to yell
Amanda	also, I can never find the code that happens when you generate a new app, but that's probably because I'm forgetful
Steven Heidel: I see you are the source of my pain
Philip	bin/refinerycms
core/lib/generators/
Steven Heidel: I bet you hear that from all the girls
Amanda	Philip: It's the bin/ one I always forget, I can find the core/lib/generators (eventually)
Steven H.	whoa, I'm lost in the conversation
let me try again
Philip: more like source of my pleasure
but anyways
so base and core
4:45 PM
Steven H.	what goes where?
Philip	I assume base is the base
Steven H.	core was too big
Philip	and core is the core
What?!
Amanda	to me, base and core appear to be synonyms
and Steven appears to agree, despite it being his idea. ;)
Philip	I don't understand how they differ really
Steven H.	I was thinking one should be generators, helpers, and so forth
Amanda	from a vague inspection, core seems to be the serious internals of Refinery, and base seems to be some helper/additional files?
Steven H.	and also loading the other engines
Amanda	but important additional files ;)
Steven H.	and core should be views, everything else that makes refinery tick
basically I was just thinking that some of our helpers, generators, and so forth could be helpful to other projects
4:50 PM
Steven H.	so they should all be in one spot
4:50 PM
Amanda	would they be useful to others individually, or only as a set?
Steven H.	html_truncation_helper is very useful
core/lib is basically what I mean by base
but it already seems to be in one spot, hmmmm
Philip	thanks for the complient on truncation helper
compliment*
Amanda	I think a) if we're going to split them we need clearer names, and b) the more we split them the more places there are to look, so only do it if it's completely necessary
lib seems like a reasonable place to look for things that are more generally useful
Steven H.	but if it makes things hard to find then don't do it
beat me to it
Amanda	actually, could things that are shared just go in the base /lib rather than /core/lib?
just tossing out more theories ;)
Steven H.	don't want to crowd the top-level namespace
Amanda: not a bad idea
lib/ is the first thing that gets included
4:55 PM
Philip	uh
4:55 PM
Steven H.	technically the root lib/ should do the whole defining of plugins too
that way then core is just a plugin and not some special magical thing that must be loaded first
Philip	what is the root lib
are you using root for base
Steven H.	(this idea is drawn from redcar of course)
no, the root of the app
Philip	FYI core doesnt need to be loaded first
which app
Amanda	Philip: on the version I have of Refinery, there's a lib folder
Philip	refinery is a collection of engines
Steven H.	https://github.com/resolve/refinerycms/tre…
Amanda	that I just pulled from by_inclusion
5:00 PM
Steven H.	maybe a good opinion to get would be that of the guy who did the restructuring
whose name escapes me
5:10 PM
Philip	kml
5:15 PM
Steven H.	Kamil
Philip	yeah
his nickname is kml
he told me he's still hacking refinery apart
so we'll see
it's nice to get someone who isn't emotionally involved
;)
but doesn't have commit access
Steven H.	:D