theskumar · August 29, 2015 14:24
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 19:00 Topic: Welcome to #pyconindia | This channel is for planning meetings of Pycon India (http://in.pycon.org/) |
 19:00 satyag set the topic at: 12-Sep-2014 10:00 am
 18:12 rangzen_: Hey Everyone..
 18:54 kracekumar: hi
 19:00 zz_theskumar is now known as theskumar
 19:00 Mode: +cnt
 19:00 Created at: 07-Jun-2012 1:33 pm
 19:00 kracekumar: Hi all
 19:01 kracekumar: We will wait for 5 minutes and get started
 19:02 zz_satyag is now known as satyag
 19:02 theskumar: Hi everyone!! 
 19:03 shrayasr: Hellooo!
 19:03 kracekumar: Hi
 19:03 kracekumar: Slowly people are joining!
 19:03 punchagan: Hi
 19:03 ani_magg: hi everyone :)
 19:03 sagaragarwal94: Hello all  :)
 19:04 kracekumar: Any volunteering to share irc logs after meeting ?
 19:04 satyag: @theskumar ^^
 19:04 theskumar: I'll do it.
 19:04 kracekumar: Thanks @theskumar.
 19:05 theskumar: :)
 19:05 kracekumar: Thanks for joining. We will get started.
 19:06 kracekumar: I will be moderating the session.
 19:06 haseeb: Hello everyone!
 19:06 kracekumar: We will pick up one item and discuss about it. We will fix time as 15 minutes.
 19:06 kracekumar: If we need more time, we will extend 5 more minutes and resume at the end.
 19:07 kracekumar: Is the approach ok ?
 19:07 theskumar: +1
 19:07 shrayasr: +1
 19:07 satyag: Sounds good
 19:07 sagaragarwal94: +1
 19:08 kracekumar: Ok. I will remind on time to stop the topic.
 19:08 kracekumar: Agenda are Dev sprint steps, poster session, open space, sponsorship.
 19:08 kracekumar: We will get started with sponsorship.
 19:09 kracekumar: As of now we have 3 sponsors Zopper (platinum), RedHat(Gold), MySQL(Silver).
 19:09 kracekumar: We are lacking on this aspect.
 19:09 kracekumar: We are having discussion with few more.
 19:10 kracekumar: We need to find way to increase the sponsors.
 19:10 kracekumar: Ideas ?
 19:10 satyag: Anywhere any list is shared to whom we have approached or approaching ?
 19:11 kracekumar: It is internal so far, but we contacted all previous year sponsors.
 19:11 satyag: ok , may be should be shared to the people who show interest in this part
 19:11 satyag: count me in
 19:11 punchagan: It may be worth contacting sponsors from all the previous editions.
 19:12 satyag: well i always am afraid of duplication of the approach process , thats the reason asking if we know then we can systematically approach each
 19:12 kracekumar: @punchagan, you're right, we contacted all previous editions whom we are able to approach.
 19:13 theskumar: I would also help to to put email copy and presentation for companies so that anyone can approach to companies very easily. 
 19:13 theskumar: ** put at an accessible location/url.
 19:14 theskumar: and if that start to happen we need a way to track which company is getting contacted, to avoid duplicates
 19:14 theskumar: Not sure, if something like this is possible now.
 19:15 kracekumar: We have prospectus we can make the link public and add to https://in.pycon.org/2015/sponsorship.html
 19:15 kracekumar: Good point
 19:16 theskumar: Anything we can/are doing for tracking leads at a central place. 
 19:16 kracekumar: We have internal spreadsheet to track, that has information about the contact person etc ...
 19:16 punchagan: Would it be worth contacting folks who sponsor other PyCons? In Asia and world wide?
 19:17 kracekumar: We can make a simple spreadsheet without contact info can be viewed by anyone and status.
 19:17 kracekumar: Point noted, will find a way to figure this out.
 19:17 theskumar: @kracekumar i think that should work pretty well.
 19:18 kracekumar: @punchagan: Yes, good idea. We contacted few.
 19:18 kracekumar: Few companies have policies to sponsor location specific events
 19:19 exploreshaifali: punchagan, there is no harm in contacting them
 19:19 satyag: kracekumar: what do you mean by " without contact info " ?
 19:19 kracekumar: We don't want to reveal email/phone of the company sponsorship contact info
 19:20 satyag: yeah that is ok , but we should know internally who is approaching a particular company , this can be kept open ?
 19:20 punchagan: PyCon US seems to have 50 or more sponsors. I'm guessing atleast a few would be interested in growing in India. We can try to talk to them and get them to sponsor.
 19:20 shrayasr: +1 for @punchagen's point
 19:20 kracekumar: * We have 5 more minutes to wrap up sponsorship *
 19:20 shrayasr: should try sponsors of other pycons too.
 19:20 kracekumar: Yes, internally we know
 19:21 punchagan: Can we also advertise on python related lists? Like Pycoder's weekly, and other lists that people follow...
 19:21 punchagan: Not sure what their advertisement policies/costs are, though.
 19:21 satyag: kracekumar: my point is lets say i approach X company , i am ok with sharing that i am approaching this can be shared between us .
 19:22 kracekumar: @satyag: got it.
 19:22 kracekumar: Punchagan: Point noted
 19:22 punchagan: Anybody who has a blog on Planet Python could blog about it and get more eyeballs.
 19:22 kracekumar: +1 for that.
 19:22 shrayasr: +1
 19:22 vnbang2003: we should list all companies based in different cities. Take help of local group to reach out to them . Discuss with companies to understand what stopping them to sponsor event like PyCon India.
 19:23 theskumar:  +1 for vnbang2003
 19:23 shrayasr: The idea seems good, but becomes too distributed IMO
 19:23 shrayasr: everyone might have a different view of the whys and hows of sponsorship
 19:24 shrayasr: Reach out and point back to planning commitee?
 19:24 vnbang2003: It needs to distributed if you ask me
 19:24 satyag: shrayasr: yeah all the mails will be marked to the sponsor id
 19:24 satyag: too
 19:24 kracekumar: sponsorship queries can directed to [email protected]
 19:26 shrayasr: @satyag: Right. Initial reach can be done with the local groups, not decisions
 19:26 kracekumar: Any volunteers for posting MoM, thsskumar will post irc logs ?
 19:26 kracekumar: *theskumar
 19:26 kracekumar: Let's move on to next topic?
 19:27 kracekumar: Ok. Next topic is open space planning.
 19:28 kracekumar: We had open session in Audi 3 and first floor last year.
 19:28 satyag: shrayasr: you got it , looping in the the sponsorhip mail id
 19:28 theskumar: MoM, can be don't collaboratively here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
 19:28 theskumar: s/don't/done/
 19:28 kracekumar: theskumar: Awesome
 19:29 kracekumar: We had sponsor session in Audi 3 last year. We will stick with that and add the sponsor session
 19:29 kracekumar: and open session in schedule page
 19:30 shrayasr: Open spaces, thoughts from last year:
 19:30 shrayasr: - There was one board to manage the spaces
 19:30 kracekumar: We need to discuss whether we will use first floor or not ? How are we managing open space this year
 19:30 shrayasr: - 2 just in time volunteers (major kudos to them)
 19:31 shrayasr: - Overall disorganized-ish
 19:31 shrayasr: - But had good response
 19:31 kracekumar: Correct, few people suggested to have online system to track for open sessions.
 19:31 satyag: kracekumar: first floor is not the place for it it afaik it did not work out may be due to AC not working or i don't know what
 19:32 kracekumar: satyag: Yep
 19:32 satyag: i think room is better
 19:32 vnbang2003: We will fix AC this year
 19:32 shrayasr: Room was a problem last year since majority of them were taken by the sponsors
 19:32 shrayasr: IIRC, 2 rooms on the first floor and the audi 3
 19:32 kracekumar: Vijay you mean we will have AC in first floor hall ?
 19:33 kracekumar: It is going to be same this year, with clear schedule share in advance
 19:33 kracekumar: *shared
 19:33 vnbang2003: kracekumar: Yes
 19:33 shrayasr: The problem with online management is connectivity, thats why we dropped the idea
 19:33 satyag: vnbang2003: yeah if AC works i think it should work , also we need to talk more about this space IMHO
 19:33 shrayasr: one interesting thing that popped up last year was a shared google calendar
 19:34 kracekumar: satyag: Correct, we will put up in schedule and while sending participants reminder email we can say about open spaces.
 19:34 shrayasr: Options: Shared Google Calendar, Public Trello board
 19:34 kracekumar: We can also blog and share in social media
 19:34 satyag: kracekumar: cool , i will love to manage it , let me know what are the rules like
 19:34 vnbang2003: nihmans team said they have fixed AC issue hence we can hope
 19:34 satyag: who can use it and for what ?
 19:35 satyag: one idea comes to my mind is BOF in that space
 19:35 satyag: kaakku: hey you are late :P
 19:36 kracekumar: Any sessions can be scheduled, that shouldn't be an issue
 19:36 kracekumar: satyag: ^
 19:36 kaakku: satyag, Sorry. Will have to leave quickly as well. Hope the logs will be shared.
 19:36 satyag: except it should be like flash talks i suppose
 19:36 satyag: kaakku: yes they will be
 19:37 kracekumar: We need to set max time for open sessions
 19:37 shrayasr: satyag: Not really flash talks. But have a max time
 19:37 shrayasr: its a longer flash talk, if you may
 19:37 vnbang2003: open space is talk between 10-30 minutes ?
 19:37 satyag: ok
 19:37 satyag: and do we need to propose one now or it will be imprompto ?
 19:38 kracekumar: Ok, how about this we will collect topics/talks online and people who miss out can come and patch during the days ?
 19:38 kracekumar: Similar to barcamp.
 19:38 punchagan: I feel like the max. time should be longer than 30 minutes, if its going to be a group participating. 45 minutes to an hour, may be good.
 19:39 shrayasr: I agree with @punchagan
 19:39 kracekumar: We have few slots right ?
 19:39 kracekumar: 45 minutes can be too long.
 19:39 shrayasr: If we collect topics/talks how will it be different compared to actual talks except that there won't be a stage?
 19:39 kracekumar: sorry, 1 hours is too long
 19:39 punchagan: Open spaces would lean more towards a group discussion, than a (lightning) talk.
 19:39 kracekumar: There is no selection
 19:39 satyag: kracekumar: no idea what happens there in Barcamp
 19:40 kracekumar: Barcamp people submit talks online and when they speak is decided by them on the day
 19:40 punchagan: I guess, people could just go out and continue the discussion. But, for a group to settle down and get to the meaty part of the discussion itself may take 10-15 minutes, IMO.
 19:40 satyag: punchagan: thats my undertsanding of this space
 19:40 kracekumar: We have 5 more minutes to wrap it up.
 19:41 shrayasr: Let us create the space and let the community figure it out? What I mean by this is that we just need a few chairs and a table for these things to work. In case bigger places are required, they can probably move to an audi for better support.
 19:41 kracekumar: Not all are discussions, people whose talk is not selected want to present in open spaces
 19:41 kracekumar: We need to consider both the cases give the chance
 19:42 shrayasr: just an initial idea, lots of minor details need to be figured out
 19:42 shrayasr: Yes. I liked that idea last year as well. Speakers whos ideas aren't selected can present in open spaces
 19:42 satyag: shrayasr: agree ^^
 19:42 punchagan: kracekumar: I think such talks would be better suited as a poster/lightning talk.
 19:43 kracekumar: punchagan: We will come to poster session next. Let's say I proposed about Django templates and if the talk isn't selected, it will be had to speak in 5 minutes right ?
 19:43 satyag: thinks the first floor is large space , just keep it open things will happen , no structure needed 
 19:44 punchagan: kracekumar: agreed.
 19:45 kracekumar: that is also an option @satyag.
 19:46 kracekumar: Closing thoughts, We will have open space in first floor and audi 3. We will fix AC in first floor, collect talks in advance, still people can pitch in during the days. We will some space for unplanned discussions.
 19:46 vnbang2003_: We need to see logistics issue in first floor before counting it. AC is not only problem
 19:46 kracekumar: You mean white board, projector etc ?
 19:46 satyag: vnbang2003_: what are the issues you forsee
 19:47 vnbang2003_: mike, projector , echoing
 19:47 vnbang2003_: seating arrangement
 19:47 kracekumar: Hey we can come back to this at the end ?
 19:47 punchagan: 45 minutes to an hour is the max. time, if there is a limit. Discussions/talks can last for less than that, definitely.
 19:47 satyag: vnbang2003_: echo is there you cannot control it, the walls are not insulated
 19:47 vnbang2003_: yes so we need to plan better
 19:48 kracekumar: Next topic is poster session.
 19:48 kracekumar: We are discussing this for first time.
 19:48 kracekumar: Can some explain to the crowd ?
 19:48 kracekumar: *someo ne
 19:48 kracekumar: **someone
 19:49 theskumar: I'll be also helpful if everyone contributes to MoM here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
 19:49 punchagan:  https://us.pycon.org/2015/posters/faq/ is a good explanation, I guess.
 19:49 vnbang2003_: kracekumar Is this what you mean by poster session : https://www.pycon.it/en/blog/2012/02/29/poster-session-coming-europython
 19:51 kracekumar: @vnbang @punchagan yes
 19:51 kracekumar: This is first time we are discussing so we need to think about logistics, reach out
 19:51 kracekumar: So lets start what is required to do this and where
 19:53 theskumar: possible to spread the word in school/colleges, sort of a competition maybe?
 19:54 vnbang2003_: spread in companies also.
 19:54 kracekumar: I think this we can stick to open source projects this year ?
 19:54 vnbang2003_: logistics is question , how many can we have ?
 19:54 kracekumar: Can people speak about properitary stuff ?
 19:54 vnbang2003_: should we do between audi 2 and audi3
 19:55 exploreshaifali: I think opensource should be preferred
 19:55 vnbang2003_: kracekumar: i think properitary stuff might not come
 19:55 vnbang2003_: should we make it paid ?
 19:55 kracekumar: Between Audi 2 and Audi 3 there will be sponsors stalls correct ?
 19:56 vnbang2003_: kracekumar: No
 19:56 kracekumar: Got it
 19:56 shrayasr: Don't see why yes/no to propreitary stuff is a question. Its the choice of the person presenting
 19:57 exploreshaifali: does its Inpycon  volunteers who  will print posters in a large format and display it at the conference?
 19:57 kracekumar: Because there will be limited space correct ?
 19:57 punchagan: I'm assuming that posters are going to be reviewed/filtered. Is that right?
 19:57 kracekumar: Yes we nee to do it
 19:57 vnbang2003_: I think we need to take this to mailing list and wet the idea there
 19:57 kracekumar: *need
 19:58 satyag: vnbang2003_: +1 this one needs wider discussion
 19:58 kracekumar: Ok. It makes sense to move to ML.
 19:58 vnbang2003_: but we can get sense from all what do they think ?
 19:58 vnbang2003_: Should we plan for poster session this year ?
 19:59 satyag: vnbang2003_: so what i have read explaining the concept itself is an excercise :P , then to motivate people to make one is another.
 19:59 kracekumar: +1 for this year
 19:59 shrayasr: Well good question @vnbang2003
 19:59 anuvrat: sure, if we have bandwidth for it ...
 19:59 shrayasr: Open spaces (better organized), dev sprints AND poster sessions?
 19:59 vnbang2003_: We need volunteers for all new idea
 19:59 shrayasr: @anuvrat: +1
 20:00 anuvrat: vnbang2003_: indeed
 20:00 kracekumar: So if we don't get enough volunteers we should be ojk drop correct ?
 20:00 kracekumar: *ok
 20:00 vnbang2003_: without volunteer -1
 20:01 shrayasr: +1
 20:01 kracekumar: Ok. We will move to next topic, we will open this discussion in ML, most people are +1 for this year
 20:01 vnbang2003_: more important volunteer need to understand expectations  not like other tasks
 20:01 anuvrat: kracekumar: certainly, managing these sub-events shall also be a lot of work - and there is no point doing something poorly.
 20:01 vnbang2003_: anuvrat: +1
 20:02 kracekumar: anurat: Yes, as long as people are on same point it is good.
 20:02 kracekumar: Ok, next topic is dev sprint.
 20:02 kracekumar: Sayan/Chandan are leading it.
 20:03 kracekumar: I am not able to see them here
 20:03 satyag: kracekumar: how much time is left ?
 20:03 kracekumar: 1 hour is done :-) we can extend for 15 minutes max.
 20:03 satyag: kracekumar: this too can be done on ML if they are not here
 20:03 kracekumar: We can schedule one in next week if sayan/chandan are not present
 20:03 satyag: move on
 20:04 vnbang2003_: make it after 15 days
 20:04 kracekumar: ok. vnbang2003.
 20:05 kracekumar: We can extend 15 more minutes. What topic needs to discussed for PyCon India ?
 20:05 kracekumar: More of open space and/or poster session ?
 20:06 anuvrat: kracekumar: may I request for a quick recap? I was delayed.
 20:06 kracekumar: anurat: sure, https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july. After 15 minutes and before we close ?
 20:06 anuvrat: unless someone would be releasing a minutes of the meeting somewhere ...
 20:06 anuvrat: kracekumar: oh ... cool
 20:07 kracekumar: Any volunteers for open space ? satyag has volunteered
 20:07 vnbang2003_: Volunteers for sponsorship ?
 20:07 satyag: ^^
 20:09 vnbang2003_: volunteer for create list of companies in india ?
 20:09 kracekumar: Ok. We will use github wiki ?
 20:09 vnbang2003_: we need still volunteers right ?
 20:09 kracekumar: yep
 20:10 vnbang2003_: still need *
 20:10 satyag: kracekumar: no to wiki , a secured doc
 20:10 satyag: vnbang2003_: so do we have some doc to start or we need to create a new one
 20:11 satyag: ?
 20:11 kracekumar: Last 5 minutes
 20:11 vnbang2003_: We need to create new one.  The one is in wiki : https://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia
 20:12 vnbang2003_: it was update long long back
 20:12 satyag: vnbang2003_: hmm is that wiki still live , last i checked it was dead
 20:12 satyag: lemme check
 20:12 vnbang2003_: it dead
 20:13 vnbang2003_: we are done ?
 20:13 satyag: well this one i see is not gone
 20:13 satyag: but one of our local user group page is no more on the wiki , donna what has happened to it
 20:14 kracekumar: Looks like, before wrapping up, theskumar paste the link of enrire chat in etherpad too.
 20:14 kracekumar: Everyone contribute to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
 20:14 satyag: vnbang2003_: yeah we are done
 20:14 vnbang2003_: thanks
 20:14 theskumar: kracekumar: will do
 20:14 theskumar: i'm on on a call, i
 20:15 theskumar: i'll do as soon as i get free. 
 20:15 kracekumar: Ok. Thanks for everyone joining. We will have one more meeting in this month
 20:15 kracekumar: MoM will be shared in the ML..
 20:15 kracekumar: Bye
 20:16 anuvrat: k kracekumar, goodbye
 20:16 satyag: bye for now
 20:17 satyag is now known as zz_satyag
 20:17 shrayasr: Thanks
 20:17 shrayasr: bye!
	19:00 Topic: Welcome to #pyconindia \| This channel is for planning meetings of Pycon India (http://in.pycon.org/) \|
	19:00 satyag set the topic at: 12-Sep-2014 10:00 am
	18:12 rangzen_: Hey Everyone..
	18:54 kracekumar: hi
	19:00 zz_theskumar is now known as theskumar
	19:00 Mode: +cnt
	19:00 Created at: 07-Jun-2012 1:33 pm
	19:00 kracekumar: Hi all
	19:01 kracekumar: We will wait for 5 minutes and get started
	19:02 zz_satyag is now known as satyag
	19:02 theskumar: Hi everyone!!
	19:03 shrayasr: Hellooo!
	19:03 kracekumar: Hi
	19:03 kracekumar: Slowly people are joining!
	19:03 punchagan: Hi
	19:03 ani_magg: hi everyone :)
	19:03 sagaragarwal94: Hello all :)
	19:04 kracekumar: Any volunteering to share irc logs after meeting ?
	19:04 satyag: @theskumar ^^
	19:04 theskumar: I'll do it.
	19:04 kracekumar: Thanks @theskumar.
	19:05 theskumar: :)
	19:05 kracekumar: Thanks for joining. We will get started.
	19:06 kracekumar: I will be moderating the session.
	19:06 haseeb: Hello everyone!
	19:06 kracekumar: We will pick up one item and discuss about it. We will fix time as 15 minutes.
	19:06 kracekumar: If we need more time, we will extend 5 more minutes and resume at the end.
	19:07 kracekumar: Is the approach ok ?
	19:07 theskumar: +1
	19:07 shrayasr: +1
	19:07 satyag: Sounds good
	19:07 sagaragarwal94: +1
	19:08 kracekumar: Ok. I will remind on time to stop the topic.
	19:08 kracekumar: Agenda are Dev sprint steps, poster session, open space, sponsorship.
	19:08 kracekumar: We will get started with sponsorship.
	19:09 kracekumar: As of now we have 3 sponsors Zopper (platinum), RedHat(Gold), MySQL(Silver).
	19:09 kracekumar: We are lacking on this aspect.
	19:09 kracekumar: We are having discussion with few more.
	19:10 kracekumar: We need to find way to increase the sponsors.
	19:10 kracekumar: Ideas ?
	19:10 satyag: Anywhere any list is shared to whom we have approached or approaching ?
	19:11 kracekumar: It is internal so far, but we contacted all previous year sponsors.
	19:11 satyag: ok , may be should be shared to the people who show interest in this part
	19:11 satyag: count me in
	19:11 punchagan: It may be worth contacting sponsors from all the previous editions.
	19:12 satyag: well i always am afraid of duplication of the approach process , thats the reason asking if we know then we can systematically approach each
	19:12 kracekumar: @punchagan, you're right, we contacted all previous editions whom we are able to approach.
	19:13 theskumar: I would also help to to put email copy and presentation for companies so that anyone can approach to companies very easily.
	19:13 theskumar: ** put at an accessible location/url.
	19:14 theskumar: and if that start to happen we need a way to track which company is getting contacted, to avoid duplicates
	19:14 theskumar: Not sure, if something like this is possible now.
	19:15 kracekumar: We have prospectus we can make the link public and add to https://in.pycon.org/2015/sponsorship.html
	19:15 kracekumar: Good point
	19:16 theskumar: Anything we can/are doing for tracking leads at a central place.
	19:16 kracekumar: We have internal spreadsheet to track, that has information about the contact person etc ...
	19:16 punchagan: Would it be worth contacting folks who sponsor other PyCons? In Asia and world wide?
	19:17 kracekumar: We can make a simple spreadsheet without contact info can be viewed by anyone and status.
	19:17 kracekumar: Point noted, will find a way to figure this out.
	19:17 theskumar: @kracekumar i think that should work pretty well.
	19:18 kracekumar: @punchagan: Yes, good idea. We contacted few.
	19:18 kracekumar: Few companies have policies to sponsor location specific events
	19:19 exploreshaifali: punchagan, there is no harm in contacting them
	19:19 satyag: kracekumar: what do you mean by " without contact info " ?
	19:19 kracekumar: We don't want to reveal email/phone of the company sponsorship contact info
	19:20 satyag: yeah that is ok , but we should know internally who is approaching a particular company , this can be kept open ?
	19:20 punchagan: PyCon US seems to have 50 or more sponsors. I'm guessing atleast a few would be interested in growing in India. We can try to talk to them and get them to sponsor.
	19:20 shrayasr: +1 for @punchagen's point
	19:20 kracekumar: * We have 5 more minutes to wrap up sponsorship *
	19:20 shrayasr: should try sponsors of other pycons too.
	19:20 kracekumar: Yes, internally we know
	19:21 punchagan: Can we also advertise on python related lists? Like Pycoder's weekly, and other lists that people follow...
	19:21 punchagan: Not sure what their advertisement policies/costs are, though.
	19:21 satyag: kracekumar: my point is lets say i approach X company , i am ok with sharing that i am approaching this can be shared between us .
	19:22 kracekumar: @satyag: got it.
	19:22 kracekumar: Punchagan: Point noted
	19:22 punchagan: Anybody who has a blog on Planet Python could blog about it and get more eyeballs.
	19:22 kracekumar: +1 for that.
	19:22 shrayasr: +1
	19:22 vnbang2003: we should list all companies based in different cities. Take help of local group to reach out to them . Discuss with companies to understand what stopping them to sponsor event like PyCon India.
	19:23 theskumar: +1 for vnbang2003
	19:23 shrayasr: The idea seems good, but becomes too distributed IMO
	19:23 shrayasr: everyone might have a different view of the whys and hows of sponsorship
	19:24 shrayasr: Reach out and point back to planning commitee?
	19:24 vnbang2003: It needs to distributed if you ask me
	19:24 satyag: shrayasr: yeah all the mails will be marked to the sponsor id
	19:24 satyag: too
	19:24 kracekumar: sponsorship queries can directed to [email protected]
	19:26 shrayasr: @satyag: Right. Initial reach can be done with the local groups, not decisions
	19:26 kracekumar: Any volunteers for posting MoM, thsskumar will post irc logs ?
	19:26 kracekumar: *theskumar
	19:26 kracekumar: Let's move on to next topic?
	19:27 kracekumar: Ok. Next topic is open space planning.
	19:28 kracekumar: We had open session in Audi 3 and first floor last year.
	19:28 satyag: shrayasr: you got it , looping in the the sponsorhip mail id
	19:28 theskumar: MoM, can be don't collaboratively here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
	19:28 theskumar: s/don't/done/
	19:28 kracekumar: theskumar: Awesome
	19:29 kracekumar: We had sponsor session in Audi 3 last year. We will stick with that and add the sponsor session
	19:29 kracekumar: and open session in schedule page
	19:30 shrayasr: Open spaces, thoughts from last year:
	19:30 shrayasr: - There was one board to manage the spaces
	19:30 kracekumar: We need to discuss whether we will use first floor or not ? How are we managing open space this year
	19:30 shrayasr: - 2 just in time volunteers (major kudos to them)
	19:31 shrayasr: - Overall disorganized-ish
	19:31 shrayasr: - But had good response
	19:31 kracekumar: Correct, few people suggested to have online system to track for open sessions.
	19:31 satyag: kracekumar: first floor is not the place for it it afaik it did not work out may be due to AC not working or i don't know what
	19:32 kracekumar: satyag: Yep
	19:32 satyag: i think room is better
	19:32 vnbang2003: We will fix AC this year
	19:32 shrayasr: Room was a problem last year since majority of them were taken by the sponsors
	19:32 shrayasr: IIRC, 2 rooms on the first floor and the audi 3
	19:32 kracekumar: Vijay you mean we will have AC in first floor hall ?
	19:33 kracekumar: It is going to be same this year, with clear schedule share in advance
	19:33 kracekumar: *shared
	19:33 vnbang2003: kracekumar: Yes
	19:33 shrayasr: The problem with online management is connectivity, thats why we dropped the idea
	19:33 satyag: vnbang2003: yeah if AC works i think it should work , also we need to talk more about this space IMHO
	19:33 shrayasr: one interesting thing that popped up last year was a shared google calendar
	19:34 kracekumar: satyag: Correct, we will put up in schedule and while sending participants reminder email we can say about open spaces.
	19:34 shrayasr: Options: Shared Google Calendar, Public Trello board
	19:34 kracekumar: We can also blog and share in social media
	19:34 satyag: kracekumar: cool , i will love to manage it , let me know what are the rules like
	19:34 vnbang2003: nihmans team said they have fixed AC issue hence we can hope
	19:34 satyag: who can use it and for what ?
	19:35 satyag: one idea comes to my mind is BOF in that space
	19:35 satyag: kaakku: hey you are late :P
	19:36 kracekumar: Any sessions can be scheduled, that shouldn't be an issue
	19:36 kracekumar: satyag: ^
	19:36 kaakku: satyag, Sorry. Will have to leave quickly as well. Hope the logs will be shared.
	19:36 satyag: except it should be like flash talks i suppose
	19:36 satyag: kaakku: yes they will be
	19:37 kracekumar: We need to set max time for open sessions
	19:37 shrayasr: satyag: Not really flash talks. But have a max time
	19:37 shrayasr: its a longer flash talk, if you may
	19:37 vnbang2003: open space is talk between 10-30 minutes ?
	19:37 satyag: ok
	19:37 satyag: and do we need to propose one now or it will be imprompto ?
	19:38 kracekumar: Ok, how about this we will collect topics/talks online and people who miss out can come and patch during the days ?
	19:38 kracekumar: Similar to barcamp.
	19:38 punchagan: I feel like the max. time should be longer than 30 minutes, if its going to be a group participating. 45 minutes to an hour, may be good.
	19:39 shrayasr: I agree with @punchagan
	19:39 kracekumar: We have few slots right ?
	19:39 kracekumar: 45 minutes can be too long.
	19:39 shrayasr: If we collect topics/talks how will it be different compared to actual talks except that there won't be a stage?
	19:39 kracekumar: sorry, 1 hours is too long
	19:39 punchagan: Open spaces would lean more towards a group discussion, than a (lightning) talk.
	19:39 kracekumar: There is no selection
	19:39 satyag: kracekumar: no idea what happens there in Barcamp
	19:40 kracekumar: Barcamp people submit talks online and when they speak is decided by them on the day
	19:40 punchagan: I guess, people could just go out and continue the discussion. But, for a group to settle down and get to the meaty part of the discussion itself may take 10-15 minutes, IMO.
	19:40 satyag: punchagan: thats my undertsanding of this space
	19:40 kracekumar: We have 5 more minutes to wrap it up.
	19:41 shrayasr: Let us create the space and let the community figure it out? What I mean by this is that we just need a few chairs and a table for these things to work. In case bigger places are required, they can probably move to an audi for better support.
	19:41 kracekumar: Not all are discussions, people whose talk is not selected want to present in open spaces
	19:41 kracekumar: We need to consider both the cases give the chance
	19:42 shrayasr: just an initial idea, lots of minor details need to be figured out
	19:42 shrayasr: Yes. I liked that idea last year as well. Speakers whos ideas aren't selected can present in open spaces
	19:42 satyag: shrayasr: agree ^^
	19:42 punchagan: kracekumar: I think such talks would be better suited as a poster/lightning talk.
	19:43 kracekumar: punchagan: We will come to poster session next. Let's say I proposed about Django templates and if the talk isn't selected, it will be had to speak in 5 minutes right ?
	19:43 satyag: thinks the first floor is large space , just keep it open things will happen , no structure needed
	19:44 punchagan: kracekumar: agreed.
	19:45 kracekumar: that is also an option @satyag.
	19:46 kracekumar: Closing thoughts, We will have open space in first floor and audi 3. We will fix AC in first floor, collect talks in advance, still people can pitch in during the days. We will some space for unplanned discussions.
	19:46 vnbang2003_: We need to see logistics issue in first floor before counting it. AC is not only problem
	19:46 kracekumar: You mean white board, projector etc ?
	19:46 satyag: vnbang2003_: what are the issues you forsee
	19:47 vnbang2003_: mike, projector , echoing
	19:47 vnbang2003_: seating arrangement
	19:47 kracekumar: Hey we can come back to this at the end ?
	19:47 punchagan: 45 minutes to an hour is the max. time, if there is a limit. Discussions/talks can last for less than that, definitely.
	19:47 satyag: vnbang2003_: echo is there you cannot control it, the walls are not insulated
	19:47 vnbang2003_: yes so we need to plan better
	19:48 kracekumar: Next topic is poster session.
	19:48 kracekumar: We are discussing this for first time.
	19:48 kracekumar: Can some explain to the crowd ?
	19:48 kracekumar: *someo ne
	19:48 kracekumar: **someone
	19:49 theskumar: I'll be also helpful if everyone contributes to MoM here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
	19:49 punchagan: https://us.pycon.org/2015/posters/faq/ is a good explanation, I guess.
	19:49 vnbang2003_: kracekumar Is this what you mean by poster session : https://www.pycon.it/en/blog/2012/02/29/poster-session-coming-europython
	19:51 kracekumar: @vnbang @punchagan yes
	19:51 kracekumar: This is first time we are discussing so we need to think about logistics, reach out
	19:51 kracekumar: So lets start what is required to do this and where
	19:53 theskumar: possible to spread the word in school/colleges, sort of a competition maybe?
	19:54 vnbang2003_: spread in companies also.
	19:54 kracekumar: I think this we can stick to open source projects this year ?
	19:54 vnbang2003_: logistics is question , how many can we have ?
	19:54 kracekumar: Can people speak about properitary stuff ?
	19:54 vnbang2003_: should we do between audi 2 and audi3
	19:55 exploreshaifali: I think opensource should be preferred
	19:55 vnbang2003_: kracekumar: i think properitary stuff might not come
	19:55 vnbang2003_: should we make it paid ?
	19:55 kracekumar: Between Audi 2 and Audi 3 there will be sponsors stalls correct ?
	19:56 vnbang2003_: kracekumar: No
	19:56 kracekumar: Got it
	19:56 shrayasr: Don't see why yes/no to propreitary stuff is a question. Its the choice of the person presenting
	19:57 exploreshaifali: does its Inpycon volunteers who will print posters in a large format and display it at the conference?
	19:57 kracekumar: Because there will be limited space correct ?
	19:57 punchagan: I'm assuming that posters are going to be reviewed/filtered. Is that right?
	19:57 kracekumar: Yes we nee to do it
	19:57 vnbang2003_: I think we need to take this to mailing list and wet the idea there
	19:57 kracekumar: *need
	19:58 satyag: vnbang2003_: +1 this one needs wider discussion
	19:58 kracekumar: Ok. It makes sense to move to ML.
	19:58 vnbang2003_: but we can get sense from all what do they think ?
	19:58 vnbang2003_: Should we plan for poster session this year ?
	19:59 satyag: vnbang2003_: so what i have read explaining the concept itself is an excercise :P , then to motivate people to make one is another.
	19:59 kracekumar: +1 for this year
	19:59 shrayasr: Well good question @vnbang2003
	19:59 anuvrat: sure, if we have bandwidth for it ...
	19:59 shrayasr: Open spaces (better organized), dev sprints AND poster sessions?
	19:59 vnbang2003_: We need volunteers for all new idea
	19:59 shrayasr: @anuvrat: +1
	20:00 anuvrat: vnbang2003_: indeed
	20:00 kracekumar: So if we don't get enough volunteers we should be ojk drop correct ?
	20:00 kracekumar: *ok
	20:00 vnbang2003_: without volunteer -1
	20:01 shrayasr: +1
	20:01 kracekumar: Ok. We will move to next topic, we will open this discussion in ML, most people are +1 for this year
	20:01 vnbang2003_: more important volunteer need to understand expectations not like other tasks
	20:01 anuvrat: kracekumar: certainly, managing these sub-events shall also be a lot of work - and there is no point doing something poorly.
	20:01 vnbang2003_: anuvrat: +1
	20:02 kracekumar: anurat: Yes, as long as people are on same point it is good.
	20:02 kracekumar: Ok, next topic is dev sprint.
	20:02 kracekumar: Sayan/Chandan are leading it.
	20:03 kracekumar: I am not able to see them here
	20:03 satyag: kracekumar: how much time is left ?
	20:03 kracekumar: 1 hour is done :-) we can extend for 15 minutes max.
	20:03 satyag: kracekumar: this too can be done on ML if they are not here
	20:03 kracekumar: We can schedule one in next week if sayan/chandan are not present
	20:03 satyag: move on
	20:04 vnbang2003_: make it after 15 days
	20:04 kracekumar: ok. vnbang2003.
	20:05 kracekumar: We can extend 15 more minutes. What topic needs to discussed for PyCon India ?
	20:05 kracekumar: More of open space and/or poster session ?
	20:06 anuvrat: kracekumar: may I request for a quick recap? I was delayed.
	20:06 kracekumar: anurat: sure, https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july. After 15 minutes and before we close ?
	20:06 anuvrat: unless someone would be releasing a minutes of the meeting somewhere ...
	20:06 anuvrat: kracekumar: oh ... cool
	20:07 kracekumar: Any volunteers for open space ? satyag has volunteered
	20:07 vnbang2003_: Volunteers for sponsorship ?
	20:07 satyag: ^^
	20:09 vnbang2003_: volunteer for create list of companies in india ?
	20:09 kracekumar: Ok. We will use github wiki ?
	20:09 vnbang2003_: we need still volunteers right ?
	20:09 kracekumar: yep
	20:10 vnbang2003_: still need *
	20:10 satyag: kracekumar: no to wiki , a secured doc
	20:10 satyag: vnbang2003_: so do we have some doc to start or we need to create a new one
	20:11 satyag: ?
	20:11 kracekumar: Last 5 minutes
	20:11 vnbang2003_: We need to create new one. The one is in wiki : https://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia
	20:12 vnbang2003_: it was update long long back
	20:12 satyag: vnbang2003_: hmm is that wiki still live , last i checked it was dead
	20:12 satyag: lemme check
	20:12 vnbang2003_: it dead
	20:13 vnbang2003_: we are done ?
	20:13 satyag: well this one i see is not gone
	20:13 satyag: but one of our local user group page is no more on the wiki , donna what has happened to it
	20:14 kracekumar: Looks like, before wrapping up, theskumar paste the link of enrire chat in etherpad too.
	20:14 kracekumar: Everyone contribute to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/pyconindia-10-july
	20:14 satyag: vnbang2003_: yeah we are done
	20:14 vnbang2003_: thanks
	20:14 theskumar: kracekumar: will do
	20:14 theskumar: i'm on on a call, i
	20:15 theskumar: i'll do as soon as i get free.
	20:15 kracekumar: Ok. Thanks for everyone joining. We will have one more meeting in this month
	20:15 kracekumar: MoM will be shared in the ML..
	20:15 kracekumar: Bye
	20:16 anuvrat: k kracekumar, goodbye
	20:16 satyag: bye for now
	20:17 satyag is now known as zz_satyag
	20:17 shrayasr: Thanks
	20:17 shrayasr: bye!