webchick · April 14, 2012 01:15
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 8:54:42 AM Slurpee: stevepurkiss, i use skype for everything.  how did you rack up £12? I pay $8 unlimited calling per month.
 8:54:52 AM KatteKrab: Slurpee: reporting in at 3:54 am sir 
 8:54:56 AM stephvhosny: Hi KatteKrab hope you're ok?
 8:55:01 AM webchick: KatteKrab: wow. you are a trooper!
 8:55:05 AM stevepurkiss: skyred: google voice in uk? thought was only US...
 8:55:11 AM mrconnerton: Ya, I have the unlimited skype plan too for NA
 8:55:11 AM KatteKrab: stephvhosny: ok! 
 8:55:14 AM stevepurkiss: Slurpee: it's a premium number
 8:55:22 AM KatteKrab: webchick: or crazy... take your pick 
 8:55:29 AM skyred: stevepurkiss, you can use Google Voice to call this meeting number in U.S., then it's FREE
 8:55:48 AM stephvhosny: oh heck i used my land line - i went old school 
 8:55:52 AM mrconnerton: lol
 8:55:57 AM mrconnerton: People still have land lines?
 8:56:04 AM webchick: *rolls up sleeves*
 8:56:05 AM stephvhosny: yes, i live in the sticks 
 8:56:11 AM webchick: and prepares for painful fingers
 8:56:27 AM Slurpee: *thinks understanding how to save money dialing global numbers would be a prerequisite to being a candidate for a global association*
 8:56:52 AM webchick: I would much rather have people who make good board members than people who understand the intricacies of VOIP. 
 8:56:55 AM nickvidal: thanks for the tip skyred, i was also using skype
 8:57:10 AM Slurpee: webchick, it shows experience of people who are already communicating globally on a daily basis
 8:57:11 AM stevepurkiss: Slurpee: I spend too much time Drupaling to do stuff like that 
 8:57:24 AM Slurpee: working in a global economy demands these skills.
 8:58:11 AM webchick: I think those skills can be learned. 
 8:58:21 AM webchick: I think being smart and savvy about the Drupal community is much harder to teach
 8:58:41 AM webchick: so given the choice, I go for substance over skills. 
 8:58:47 AM webchick: But that's why we have a vote! 
 8:58:59 AM nickvidal: skyred, i tried your tip and didn't quite work. i think it's free only if you are calling from US
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 8:59:04 AM Slurpee: i think being able to conduct proper meetings and valuing board members time for meetings to focus on proper topics, not connecting is high priority.  every vote counts.
 8:59:26 AM skyred: nickvidal, I am in Shanghai, and on the line now. Using Google Gtalk to call this number in U.S.
 8:59:34 AM skyred: free
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 8:59:42 AM budda: skyred: i don't think google voice exists in the uk
 8:59:58 AM Slurpee: maybe the drupal association can pay the $8/3months for unlimited calling in US via skype? this provides every board member a US based phone #.
 9:00:00 AM rfay: I always use Skype for these things
 9:00:01 AM nickvidal: Me too, but it didn't work. Thanks anyways.
 9:00:10 AM skyred: budda, you need to find a way to get a GV number
 9:00:14 AM skyred: budda, google it
 9:00:16 AM KatteKrab: Oh my.
 9:00:24 AM budda: skyred: i don't really want one to be honest 
 9:00:31 AM KatteKrab: I decided against having coffee - because I'm going back to sleep after this
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 9:00:41 AM KatteKrab: I think it was a mistake... I should have had coffee!
 9:00:42 AM RodneyTheCat: reow!
 9:00:54 AM mrconnerton: I'm on the call 
 9:00:59 AM stephvhosny: im on the call
 You are now known as webchick|scribe (9:01:05 AM)
 9:01:07 AM Slurpee: *is on client calls *
 9:01:08 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
 9:01:10 AM webchick|scribe: Welcome everyone!
 9:01:13 AM webchick|scribe: Great to have you here
 9:01:19 AM webchick|scribe: Going to start with brief outline for how we'll conduct the meeting
 9:01:22 AM webchick|scribe: Then we'll get started
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 9:01:27 AM Slurpee: whats the #? i willd ial on a diff phone
 9:01:27 AM webchick|scribe: We are going to try and make good use of IRC
 9:01:30 AM webchick|scribe: at the same time as voice
 9:01:34 AM KatteKrab: Oh hi jhodgdon 
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 9:01:37 AM webchick|scribe: so in the question part of the meeting
 9:01:42 AM webchick|scribe: we will have questions asked in IRC
 9:01:51 AM webchick|scribe: and then we'll have a chance to read voice responses for questions
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 9:02:02 AM webchick|scribe: and then for the balance of that, I'll ask candidates to respond also on IRC so we can fit in more questions.
 9:02:02 AM jhodgdon: hi KatteKrab - 4 AM you are chipper!
 9:02:14 AM KatteKrab: jhodgdon: I'm pretending 
 9:02:16 AM greggles: Slurpee: dial in details are on http://groups.drupal.org/node/206708
 9:02:20 AM webchick|scribe: For those of you who are here with your numerous questions you want to ask of the candidates, please start queueing those up in your text editors!
 9:02:28 AM webchick|scribe: when the questions are opened, you'll be ready
 9:02:38 AM webchick|scribe: General format from first meeting went well, so going to try that for this meeting as well
 9:02:44 AM webchick|scribe: We'll begin with a *brief* introduction
 9:02:45 AM webchick|scribe: from each candidate
 9:02:51 AM webchick|scribe: then a question period
 9:02:58 AM webchick|scribe: then finally at the end a quick wrap-up from each candidate 
 9:03:03 AM webchick|scribe: one thing they hadn't got a chance to say earlier
 9:03:07 AM webchick|scribe: the only difference this time 
 9:03:12 AM webchick|scribe: is to keep the intros as brief as possible
 9:03:18 AM webchick|scribe: going to try timing and cutting you off, not because I'm not interested
 9:03:25 AM Slurpee: greggles, thanks
 9:03:26 AM webchick|scribe: but because I want to leave a bit more time for Qs and less on intros
 9:03:36 AM webchick|scribe: So with those introductions, going to confirm a couple of questions about protocool here
 9:03:39 AM webchick|scribe: We have Angie
 9:03:43 AM webchick|scribe: Very genrously scribing for us 
 9:03:44 AM webchick|scribe: in IRC
 9:03:46 AM stephvhosny: thanks web
 9:03:48 AM RodneyTheCat: *rubs in-between webchick's legs*
 9:03:49 AM KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: you are an amazing scribe!
 9:03:50 AM stephvhosny: thanks webchick|scribe
 9:03:55 AM webchick|scribe: And we have people both on voice and IRC
 9:03:55 AM mrconnerton: woot webchick|scribe!
 9:04:04 AM webchick|scribe: would like to get a sense right now if there's anyone on the call
 9:04:07 AM webchick|scribe: who is on voice but not on irc
 9:04:14 AM KatteKrab: *is on both.*
 9:04:15 AM webchick|scribe: that'll help us assess how to manage the topic of bands
 9:04:19 AM webchick|scribe: if you are on voice but not irc speak up now
 9:04:22 AM webchick|scribe: (nothing)
 9:04:22 AM greggles: s/bands/hands/
 9:04:24 AM webchick|scribe: (still nothing)
 9:04:25 AM stephvhosny: im on both 
 9:04:33 AM mrconnerton: on both
 9:04:33 AM webchick|scribe: (even still nothing)
 9:04:41 AM webchick|scribe: OK we're goiing to rely strictly on IRC
 9:04:42 AM webchick|scribe: Ok
 9:04:46 AM webchick|scribe: First up, all candidates in meeting
 9:04:48 AM webchick|scribe: type out 'hand'
 9:04:50 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:04:50 AM toddtomlinson: hand
 9:04:51 AM mrconnerton: hand
 9:04:53 AM KatteKrab: *hand*
 9:04:54 AM nickvidal: hand
 9:04:54 AM skyred: hand
 9:04:55 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:05:00 AM RodneyTheCat: *paws*
 9:05:05 AM webchick|scribe: will go through one by one, have a minute and a half to give sense of who you are and what you bring to the DA board
 9:05:16 AM webchick|scribe: We;ll get going with that round, followed by Qs
 9:05:23 AM webchick|scribe: First would like to see Qs addressed to all candidates
 9:05:25 AM Crell: jredding_: Can you Voice the candidates in channel, so that they show up separately in the nick list?
 9:05:28 AM webchick|scribe: then if time later, we can open for individual candidates
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 9:05:37 AM webchick|scribe: steve purkiss please go
 9:05:39 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:05:40 AM webchick|scribe: Hi everyone
 9:05:43 AM webchick|scribe: Steve here
 9:05:46 AM webchick|scribe: I live in Brighton UK
 9:05:51 AM webchick|scribe: been building up commuity for past 6 years
 9:05:55 AM webchick|scribe: didn't want to use it in the first place
 9:05:58 AM webchick|scribe: one of my sites got re-written
 9:06:03 AM webchick|scribe: jupmed in, loved ever since
 9:06:07 AM webchick|scribe: I've been involved in community side of it
 9:06:18 AM webchick|scribe: (missed it )
 9:06:28 AM webchick|scribe: Organize Drupal metups, Drupal CXO days
 9:06:34 AM webchick|scribe: I represent "normal guy" in the equation
 9:06:47 AM webchick|scribe: A lot of focus on commercial world, think there needs to be more emphasis on the other
 9:06:52 AM webchick|scribe: PLEASE TALK SLOWER 
 9:06:57 AM KatteKrab: lol
 9:07:01 AM stephvhosny: S-L-O-W
 9:07:13 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo"
 9:07:19 AM webchick|scribe: Everyoe on call try and help angie if she misses things
 9:07:22 AM webchick|scribe: Next we have todd
 9:07:23 AM stevepurkiss: sorry angie, nerves!
 9:07:24 AM webchick|scribe: TOdd:
 9:07:31 AM webchick|scribe: Hi, I'm todd tomilison
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 9:07:36 AM webchick|scribe: some of you know me as author of PDD on Apress
 9:07:40 AM webchick|scribe: Also VP of ServiLogic corpoation
 9:07:45 AM webchick|scribe: Been involved in Drupal for 6.5 years
 9:07:48 AM webchick|scribe: Public sector, private sector
 9:07:55 AM webchick|scribe: My career has been focused globally
 9:07:57 AM nedjo: can i have a second volunteer for scribing?
 9:08:05 AM webchick|scribe: I bring to the table working last 25 years globally, not just NA but also around world
 9:08:06 AM greggles: nedjo: I can
 9:08:07 AM webchick|scribe: Also educator
 9:08:08 AM webchick|scribe: sr. professor
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 9:08:15 AM webchick|scribe: working with Drupal since drupal 3!
 9:08:20 AM nedjo: who can alternate with angie?
 9:08:24 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
 9:08:25 AM webchick|scribe: Thank you!
 9:08:28 AM webchick|scribe: Next up: mrconnerton
 9:08:30 AM webchick|scribe: Matt:
 9:08:35 AM webchick|scribe: Hi, I'm Matthew Connerton
 9:08:37 AM webchick|scribe: From Ahseville NC
 9:08:40 AM greggles: nedjo: I can alternate, just let me know when
 9:08:40 AM webchick|scribe: Started UG 3 years ago
 9:08:47 AM webchick|scribe: Since then had a great increase in camps
 9:08:50 AM webchick|scribe: I'm a preacher in Drupal
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 9:09:01 AM webchick|scribe: Lots of events, heading out to different US destinations, different countries
 9:09:02 AM nedjo: k, webchick, pass to greggles when you want a break
 9:09:08 AM webchick|scribe: Small team that works on projects 
 9:09:10 AM webchick|scribe: (missed it)
 9:09:16 AM webchick|scribe: Focus on the DA is educating more people in Drupal
 9:09:20 AM webchick|scribe: reaching out to more peope in the Drupal community
 9:09:27 AM webchick|scribe: other communites such as the PHP community
 9:09:31 AM webchick|scribe: lots of great minds to tap into
 9:09:34 AM webchick|scribe: that's what I'm about!
 9:09:35 AM webchick|scribe: greggles: tag!
 9:09:42 AM greggles: KatteKrab speaking:
 9:09:47 AM greggles: calling from the future at 4AM on friday morning
 9:09:50 AM stephvhosny: hello from the past
 9:09:52 AM greggles: donna benjamin from melbourne, AUS
 9:10:02 AM greggles: run own business, using it for 5 years, Drupal is awesome
 9:10:12 AM greggles: keen to see DA engage more effectively with the world and not just NA/Europe
 9:10:14 AM mrconnerton: missed: I also work with larger agencies on some enterprise level projects so I have experience across the board there.
 9:10:20 AM webchick|scribe: mrconnerton: thanks. so sorry!
 9:10:23 AM greggles: stand up for the little wickers(*), hobbiests, less corporate
 9:10:29 AM mrconnerton: lol
 9:10:29 AM stephvhosny: little voices
 9:10:36 AM greggles: nedjo: nick up next
 9:10:49 AM greggles: nick vidal from Brazil - part of the community for 5 years - mostly in Latin American community
 9:11:02 AM greggles: organized events such as drupal summit latino which have peeople from several countries in LA coming
 9:11:08 AM KatteKrab: oh yeah - I forgot to say I just helped run drupal downunder in Melbourne a couple of weeks back
 9:11:13 AM greggles: also main organizer of Drupalcamp Foz where Dries went to brazil for first time
 9:11:26 AM greggles: nick launched a magazine called (something) with thousands of copies distributed
 9:11:36 AM webchick|scribe: greggles: just say "tag" when you need a break.  I'm good to go again.
 9:11:40 AM greggles: wants to promote Drupal with events and magazines and other things
 9:11:42 AM nickvidal: Libre Magazine
 9:11:43 AM greggles: webchick|scribe: tag
 9:11:50 AM webchick|scribe: Hi this is Jingshengwan calling from China
 9:11:54 AM webchick|scribe: I run a Drupal shop in Shanghai
 9:11:59 AM webchick|scribe: I have 4 years of experience in Drupal
 9:12:05 AM webchick|scribe: Also experience in economics, legal matters
 9:12:08 AM webchick|scribe: I want to help the DA with 3 things
 9:12:16 AM webchick|scribe: 1. Cultivate asian development community
 9:12:24 AM webchick|scribe: 2. popularize Drupal as a solution
 9:12:27 AM webchick|scribe: 3. DrpalCon in Asia
 9:12:30 AM webchick|scribe: Steph:
 9:12:33 AM webchick|scribe: Hi I'm stephanie
 9:12:38 AM webchick|scribe: i'm the bus. dev manager at ixis
 9:12:43 AM webchick|scribe: uk-based drupal development/hosting agency
 9:12:48 AM webchick|scribe: started working with Drupal in 2006
 9:12:55 AM webchick|scribe: promote benefits of Drupal 
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 9:13:01 AM webchick|scribe: See benefits of community working together
 9:13:04 AM webchick|scribe: one clear agenda, one strong voice
 9:13:10 AM webchick|scribe: really want to harness community power
 9:13:16 AM webchick|scribe: with existing developers, new developers, clients, stakeholders
 9:13:21 AM webchick|scribe: to grow drupal and community
 9:13:31 AM webchick|scribe: particularly hoping to sell drupal to diverse grouos, new audences, women… 
 9:13:38 AM webchick|scribe: I bring markeitng/fundraising experience to board
 9:13:42 AM webchick|scribe: previous board experience
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 9:13:52 AM webchick|scribe: Opening the floor to Rodney the Cat
 9:13:56 AM RodneyTheCat: MEROW?
 9:13:59 AM RodneyTheCat: *runs away*
 9:14:01 AM webchick|scribe: So we do not disctriminate on species basis
 9:14:10 AM webchick|scribe: RodneyTheCat: says "MEROW" 
 9:14:10 AM Crell: RodneyTheCat++
 9:14:13 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo
 9:14:18 AM webchick|scribe: Ok we have a brief sense of who everyone is
 9:14:24 AM webchick|scribe: Welcome you, pleased/excuted to be part of this process
 9:14:24 AM stephvhosny: good cat
 9:14:33 AM webchick|scribe: and to have so many interesting, experienced candidates come forward
 9:14:36 AM webchick|scribe: open floor now to questions
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 9:14:42 AM stephvhosny: who is being executed?
 9:14:42 AM tsvenson: YesWeCat!
 9:14:46 AM webchick|scribe: please type questions in IRC with "Q:" in front
 9:14:51 AM KatteKrab: tsvenson: heh
 9:14:52 AM webchick|scribe: so that it's easy to pick themout
 9:14:56 AM jhodgdon: Q: Whose cat is it?
 9:14:59 AM webchick|scribe: will choose questions in order they're represented
 9:15:07 AM webchick|scribe: try to get as many questions as we can
 9:15:08 AM jhodgdon: 
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 9:15:14 AM Slurpee: How many candidates have been to Drupal events outside of their own continent? And can you speak more than 1 language fluently?
 9:15:15 AM webchick|scribe: will look for 2-3 responses from candidates
 9:15:16 AM jhodgdon: (that was not a serious question)
 9:15:32 AM Slurpee: Q:How many candidates have been to Drupal events outside of their own continent? And can you speak more than 1 language fluently?
 9:15:35 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo: ^^ Slurpee
 9:15:36 AM KatteKrab: There are heaps more people on this call / channel this time round.
 9:15:40 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo reading Slurpee's question
 9:15:48 AM KatteKrab: hand
 9:15:50 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:15:50 AM skyred: hand
 9:15:51 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:15:53 AM webchick|scribe: Looking for hands from candidates
 9:15:58 AM KatteKrab: agreed
 9:16:02 AM webchick|scribe: This one is something that can be answered in IRC
 9:16:05 AM toddtomlinson: A: I have only been to N/America DrupalCon -- and I speak French and PHP
 9:16:10 AM webchick|scribe: if you could answer in IRC, we'll move onto next question
 9:16:14 AM webchick|scribe: (other questions?)
 9:16:16 AM Crell: Q: Several of you listed things yo want to do or accomplish.  The DA, however, has shifted from a staff board to a policy board, so board members are not directly doing anything, but managing, strategizing, coordinating, etc.  Those of you who want to "do", isn't the board the wrong place for what you're describing?
 9:16:18 AM rfay: Q: In 30 seconds or less, what are the roles of the DA and what are *not* the roles?
 9:16:24 AM webchick|scribe: (reading Crell's question)
 9:16:26 AM stephvhosny: I'm new to Drupal events - hoping to go to more this year.  I speak some french and arabic and also client speak 
 9:16:31 AM KatteKrab: I have been to drupalcon sanfrancisco and london - I can't speak another language fluently... but I speak a little bit of Dutch.
 9:16:37 AM skyred: A: I have been America and Asia. and I can speak English and Chinese fluently
 9:16:40 AM stevepurkiss: Been to 3 drupalcons now, copenhagen, chicago, london. Languages - I always got on better with computer languages so know many of those 
 9:16:41 AM skyred: Slurpee, ^^
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 9:16:49 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:16:55 AM webchick|scribe: looking for hands for Crell's questrion
 9:16:59 AM webchick|scribe: will take the first 3
 9:17:01 AM nickvidal: Only outside of my country (from brazil to peru). i speak a bit of spanish and french (as well as english and portuguese).
 9:17:02 AM KatteKrab: hand
 9:17:02 AM webchick|scribe: go ahead steph
 9:17:03 AM webchick|scribe: Steph:
 9:17:14 AM webchick|scribe: I really support the existing strategy
 9:17:14 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:17:15 AM mrconnerton: hand (Crell)
 9:17:17 AM webchick|scribe: rather than have a personal agenda
 9:17:24 AM webchick|scribe: it's more about objectives you estbalished in 2012/late 2011
 9:17:28 AM webchick|scribe: i don't think anyone has personal agenda
 9:17:30 AM webchick|scribe: to take it over
 9:17:42 AM skyred: hand
 9:17:42 AM webchick|scribe: Next hand: KatteKrab
 9:17:44 AM webchick|scribe: Donna:
 9:17:47 AM webchick|scribe: Good question crell
 9:17:51 AM webchick|scribe: This is exactly why I want to get involved
 9:17:58 AM webchick|scribe: and be a voice for misrepresented parts of the Drupal community
 9:17:59 AM webchick|scribe: because
 9:18:06 AM webchick|scribe: the policy often gets driven without those things being considered
 9:18:21 AM webchick|scribe: if you're not loud and you don't put your voice in when the policies being formed, much hrader to move in that direction afterwards
 9:18:23 AM nedjo: steve purkiss next. other candidates: pls post responses in text
 9:18:29 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:18:38 AM webchick|scribe: I totally agree with what's been said
 9:18:43 AM webchick|scribe: we need to represent what everyone's saying already
 9:18:50 AM webchick|scribe: those who can actually speak out are getting done at the moment
 9:18:53 AM webchick|scribe: but lots of stuff that isn't
 9:18:56 AM webchick|scribe: so kind f join in the dots
 9:19:02 AM webchick|scribe: I got o lots of events, seeing a lot of convesations over and over
 9:19:08 AM webchick|scribe: want to see them addressed
 9:19:09 AM toddtomlinson: A: Having been a board member of several private companies and non-profits -- I see the role of the board as  setting the strategy for the organization (b) governance -- setting the policies for the organization and executing the governance (c) being a voice to the community.  We can impact the community through our strategic direction 
 9:19:11 AM webchick|scribe: Next Q
 9:19:15 AM webchick|scribe: (reading rfay's question)
 9:19:20 AM webchick|scribe: Looking for hands
 9:19:22 AM KatteKrab: correction - not "misrepresented" but "underrepresented"
 9:19:29 AM webchick|scribe: rfay

 9:16

 Q: In 30 seconds or less, what are the roles of the DA and what are *not* the roles?
 9:19:32 AM webchick|scribe: KatteKrab: soryr 
 9:19:33 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:19:33 AM KatteKrab: sorry - I'm not super coherent.
 9:19:36 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:19:39 AM KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: s'ok 
 9:19:43 AM toddtomlinson: A: See my answer above to Randy's question
 9:19:44 AM webchick|scribe: (I also can't hear over my WILDLY TYPING FINGERS)
 9:19:48 AM Crell: KatteKrab: Such happens at 4 am. 
 9:19:50 AM webchick|scribe: actually gregglestag?
 9:19:51 AM KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: lol
 9:19:54 AM webchick|scribe: greggles:  tag?
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 9:20:13 AM webchick|scribe: Steve: for me it's all about community side of things
 9:20:14 AM webchick|scribe: not the code
 9:20:14 AM KatteKrab: Crell: yeah - I feel like I should not say anything at all in case I incriminate myself through sleepiness 
 9:20:18 AM webchick|scribe: i haven't put modules back
 9:20:20 AM webchick|scribe: I haven't needed any
 9:20:26 AM greggles: webchick|scribe: next answer I'm on it
 9:20:26 AM webchick|scribe: I can help more with things that aren't on the code side of thing
 9:20:28 AM skyred: A: I have been promoting Drupal in Asia on daily basis. I want to come on board to influence the decision making towards events/grant/d.o documentation, etc. and I want to help with DrupalCon Asia
 9:20:32 AM skyred: Crell, ^^
 9:20:32 AM webchick|scribe: I think mission clearly stated on the DA page about that
 9:20:34 AM mrconnerton: Crell A: I think that is a great question because for example getting a Con in another country  isn't going to just take a single person on the board doing something. It's going to take people on the board working with that local community and backing them with DA resources to make it happen. The ground work will happen locally, but the DA can lend theri support and expertise. I think the DA needs to come up 
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 9:21:08 AM mrconnerton: I see this position as a way to come up with plans and hand those plans and resources off to local teams.
 9:21:09 AM greggles: steph: the role is to be supportive/encouraging and crossing boundaries to promote what the community can do
 9:21:12 AM toddtomlinson: hand
 9:21:20 AM greggles: our role in the DA is not to set the agenda, it's to amplify existing voices
 9:21:31 AM nickvidal: A: The role of DA should be to act as catalyst, identifying emerging initiatives and trowing all its weight in to make it spread faster.
 9:21:35 AM greggles: to let everyone have an opportunity to get involved regardless of where you come from
 9:21:40 AM KatteKrab: agree with stephvhosny - DA can amplify work of local communities
 9:21:45 AM toddtomlinson: hand hand
 9:21:48 AM toddtomlinson: claps hand
 9:21:50 AM webchick|scribe: lol
 9:21:53 AM KatteKrab: and also support and give credibility to them!
 9:22:20 AM webchick|scribe: toddtomlinson: I have board experience
 9:22:23 AM greggles: todd: I've been on several boards for private companies and non-profits. there are 2 critical board functions: set strategic direction and set governance (policies and procedures for folks in the organization)
 9:22:23 AM nedjo: more questions?
 9:22:26 AM webchick|scribe: Oh whew
 9:22:26 AM greggles: webchick|scribe: still on it 
 9:22:30 AM skyred: A: I don't need to repeat this https://association.drupal.org/about
 9:22:33 AM skyred: webchick|scribe, ^^
 9:22:47 AM KatteKrab: skyred: 
 9:22:50 AM greggles: todd says: a 3rd activity that boards do is help marshall resources for the org - you carry some weight b/c of your title, so if the community needs help we can bring resources to bear
 9:22:51 AM KatteKrab: skyred++
 9:22:51 AM Crell: Q: Several candidates said they want to better represent or be a voice for "small shops" and independents. In what way does the DA currently *not* adequately serve small shops, and what would a better service for small players mean in practice?  Be as specific as possible.
 9:23:00 AM webchick|scribe: greggles: let me know when you need a tag back
 9:23:05 AM greggles: will do
 9:23:15 AM greggles: nedjo: reading Crell's question
 9:23:32 AM greggles: inviting hands
 9:23:38 AM greggles: hands across irc
 9:23:40 AM KatteKrab: hand
 9:23:44 AM tsvenson: Q: When do you think the first Asian DrupalCon should be held? Also, should that mean 3 cons/year or should they alternate with 2/year?
 9:23:46 AM nickvidal: hand
 9:23:47 AM mrconnerton: hand
 9:23:57 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:23:58 AM stevepurkiss: hanf whenever - I know I've spoken before so no rush
 9:24:09 AM skyred: hand
 9:24:50 AM greggles: donna benjamin: I don't know that the DA is failing small shops, I just don't see those voices represented in the current makeup of the board. most are from NA and large organizations so it's not necessarily that there's a huge gap, but there is potentially a huge gap. I have a sense that this is a problem more than specific criticisms.
 9:25:36 AM KatteKrab: not just small drupal shops... but people using drupal without a commercial interest in it...
 9:25:44 AM KatteKrab: hobbyists, non-profits, amateurs
 9:25:45 AM greggles: nickvidal: I believe the DA is doing a good job trying to connect with big co's and promote Drupal. However, it does leave out the small Drupal shops, because of so much focus. They have to share and focus on small shops. Not only promoting big companies but also small shops. 
 9:25:49 AM KatteKrab: tinkerers
 9:25:51 AM KatteKrab: students
 9:26:52 AM greggles: mrconnerton: I don't know that the DA is not serving them, but it's more about brining in a new perspective. Pretty sure the DA is large organizations been in there for a while. While the perspective of a developer who has worked with small shops, non profits.
 9:26:53 AM greggles: (you're good on speed 
 9:27:02 AM greggles: mrconnerton: I believe that having that different perspective will help. Large agencies sponsor big modules where the needs of the smallers are different. I'll elaborate in irc.
 9:27:10 AM greggles: webchick|scribe: tag after steph
 9:27:32 AM greggles: stephvhosny: working with smaller orgs and 1 man/woman bands - any access to learning and support is always great for small shops. (can't quite hear)
 9:27:33 AM webchick|scribe: roger that
 9:27:41 AM greggles: stephvhosny: speak up?
 9:27:52 AM greggles: ....getting support and additional resources could be a way forward.
 9:27:53 AM webchick|scribe: Last is skyred on this one
 9:27:56 AM webchick|scribe: and then we'll move on
 9:27:58 AM stephvhosny: A: better access to funding opportunities, learning and support to run their own events.   "Shadowing" or mentoring opportunities 
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 9:28:08 AM greggles: thanks stephvhosny
 9:28:14 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo:  reading Asian DrupalCon question
 9:28:21 AM webchick|scribe: Jingshen:
 9:28:22 AM webchick|scribe: Sure.
 9:28:31 AM webchick|scribe: The disucssion of DC asia was started in 2010 in SF
 9:28:33 AM nedjo: inviting hands on this question
 9:28:37 AM webchick|scribe: The idea was Europe and Asia alternate every year
 9:28:42 AM webchick|scribe: the popular proposal was Hong Kong and India
 9:28:51 AM webchick|scribe: But we realized there will be a lot of work needed to be done before DrupalCon Asia is presentable
 9:28:56 AM Slurpee: Drupalcon Asia should be in Sri Lanka!
 9:28:59 AM webchick|scribe: Anyone else?
 9:29:01 AM stevepurkiss: OK, my answer re smaller shops is we need more outreach - we have built a wonderful modular software but not a modular business model on top, I will elaborate more in a blog soon 
 9:29:14 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo: We are about halfway through
 9:29:31 AM webchick|scribe: Would like to see any suggestions from candidates/attendees if there's things in this emeting you want to get out of that you haven't gt yet
 9:29:35 AM toddtomlinson: A:  One area that I believe the board can help support the smaller groups/individuals through education - a) helping local universities, colleges, trade schools embrace and teach Drupal, b) providing an educational roadmap that links resources in the community along the learning continuum, c) fostering small communities - providing mechanisms for individuals and small organizations to colla
 9:29:35 AM toddtomlinson: borate on learning, doing, supporting Drupal
 9:29:39 AM webchick|scribe: Please post suggestions on IRC
 9:29:43 AM stephvhosny: concerned not everyone has participated - would have expected more q's on the site
 9:29:47 AM webchick|scribe: to mix things up a little bit, going to invite questions from *candidates*
 9:29:49 AM jredding_: hand
 9:29:52 AM mrconnerton: Crells last question: As far as infrastructure there are projects that have been talked about that are not getting done because I just don't think people know they exist or know if they can get invovled with em. for example on d.o having ratings and comments for projects. I believe that was "specd" out and a "cost" was associated with it and I'm sure there are smaller shops that would be happy to contribute t
 9:29:55 AM webchick|scribe: what do you wonder about other people who are here particopating?
 9:30:13 AM webchick|scribe: Going to turn it around so candidates can aks questions, and comminity can respond
 9:30:15 AM nickvidal: agree with toddtomlinson:  One area that I believe the board can help support the smaller groups/individuals through education
 9:30:16 AM webchick|scribe: Furst, recognize jredding_
 9:30:19 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 9:30:28 AM webchick|scribe: I had question I wanted to ask to the candidates but Crell also has question
 9:30:36 AM mrconnerton: that was a bit odler
 9:30:38 AM mrconnerton: older*
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 9:30:42 AM mrconnerton: yes
 9:30:44 AM webchick|scribe: (confusion about responses )
 9:30:45 AM greggles: mrconnerton is answering an old question of crell's
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 9:31:22 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob had question for candidates, going to type in IRC
 9:31:24 AM Crell: mrconnerton: Is that in relation to my "doer" question, or my "small shop" question? 
 9:31:34 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo going to withdraw suggestion to have candidates post questions
 9:31:37 AM webchick|scribe: looking for new questions
 9:31:42 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob go ahead
 9:31:44 AM jredding_: In 30 seconds or less, what would you say is the most important skillset, expertise, or experience that a board member should bring to the Association. 
 9:31:44 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 9:31:45 AM mrconnerton: Crell: DA and small shops and how they can get more invoved
 9:31:50 AM KatteKrab: on the DrupalCon asia thing...  I was concerned about the idea of "drupalcon asia pacific" being "the rest of the world" except africa
 9:31:51 AM webchick|scribe: (reading question)
 9:32:01 AM Slurpee: KatteKrab, you have DDU 
 9:32:07 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:32:10 AM webchick|scribe: question related to their network, their connections, their fundraising capability
 9:32:11 AM KatteKrab: Slurpee: sure we do.
 9:32:13 AM webchick|scribe: what is most important to you?
 9:32:13 AM Crell: mrconnerton: OK, so that would mean reaching out to smaller shops to help work on d.o improvements?
 9:32:14 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:32:21 AM KatteKrab: Slurpee: but that's not a drupalcon
 9:32:26 AM webchick|scribe: My first job 25 odd years ago was small computer shop dealing w/ small businesses
 9:32:28 AM KatteKrab: Slurpee: and it has no input from the DA
 9:32:31 AM nedjo: other candidates to respond to Jacob's question?
 9:32:32 AM webchick|scribe: i respect people who start a business and work hard towards it
 9:32:33 AM KatteKrab: nor should it.
 9:32:39 AM webchick|scribe: some peope in paid employment don't have same kind of view
 9:32:49 AM nickvidal: hand
 9:32:50 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:32:51 AM KatteKrab: but asiapacific - contains 3 of the 5 most populous nations on earth
 9:32:51 AM webchick|scribe: that was about 30 seconds. i messed that one up but wil answer in IRC 
 9:32:55 AM webchick|scribe: Nick:
 9:32:57 AM KatteKrab: india, china and indonesia
 9:33:00 AM toddtomlinson: hand
 9:33:07 AM webchick|scribe: One of the most important things is to hear the community
 9:33:09 AM KatteKrab: all incredibly culturally and linguistically diverse
 9:33:09 AM mrconnerton: Crell: Absolutely, have a central place where there are wanted d.o improvements but are stalled out because there isn't funding for it, etc. I know some smaller shops that would love to invest in that kinda thing.
 9:33:15 AM webchick|scribe: you are on the top, you should be able to hear the discontents and the good ideas
 9:33:22 AM Crell: mrconnerton: OK, thank you.
 9:33:28 AM mrconnerton: Crell: Ratings and Comments on projects was my example but obviously there are more
 9:33:29 AM webchick|scribe: show leadership, that you get this great idea, that it's on the bottom, and you bring it up and promote it
 9:33:31 AM webchick|scribe: make it better
 9:33:31 AM KatteKrab: trying to create a single event for these 2 continents... is going to be an enormous challenge.
 9:33:32 AM webchick|scribe: Steph:
 9:33:40 AM webchick|scribe: My previous experience in marketing/fundraising
 9:33:51 AM webchick|scribe: key here is understanding of client requirements and community needs and how to bridge those two
 9:33:55 AM webchick|scribe: that's the most important thing of the DA board
 9:34:01 AM KatteKrab: hand
 9:34:02 AM webchick|scribe: stephvhosny: ^^ please verify
 9:34:05 AM webchick|scribe: Todd:
 9:34:08 AM stephvhosny: marketing, fundraising, understanding of clients requirements, devs needs and how to bridge those.  
 9:34:13 AM webchick|scribe: As I mentioned before having many years of experience on other boards
 9:34:20 AM webchick|scribe: is bringing decision, leaderhsip experience
 9:34:21 AM webchick|scribe: also governance
 9:34:26 AM webchick|scribe: I've been in the governance of several organizations
 9:34:31 AM webchick|scribe: I'm out on the market, talking to clients every day
 9:34:34 AM webchick|scribe: 24/7 about Drupal
 9:34:41 AM webchick|scribe: I understand from market perspective what our clients are looking for
 9:34:51 AM skyred: hand
 9:34:53 AM webchick|scribe: and what a small shop - we're 7 people - need to support our efforts and our client's efforts
 9:34:54 AM mrconnerton: A: ( jredding_ ) I think , especially for this position as a community at large member, is that a board member should be out in the community learning from them on all levels what they are looking for and then driving efforts in those directions
 9:34:54 AM webchick|scribe: Donna:
 9:35:01 AM webchick|scribe: one of the most important things is to bring a sense of collaboration
 9:35:06 AM webchick|scribe: and wilingness to work with the rest of the board
 9:35:06 AM Crell: KatteKrab: Speak up!  We can barely hear you!
 9:35:10 AM webchick|scribe: on important topics
 9:35:19 AM greggles: yes, better
 9:35:22 AM webchick|scribe: bring consensus 
 9:35:32 AM webchick|scribe: And to makr sure that we all bring our slightly diff perspectives
 9:35:37 AM webchick|scribe: and put that on the table when we're making decisions
 9:35:45 AM webchick|scribe: people think consensus is all happy families
 9:35:50 AM webchick|scribe: but you only get there from many differnt perspectives
 9:35:53 AM webchick|scribe: and figuring out what you can/can't agree on
 9:35:55 AM webchick|scribe: Skyred:
 9:36:08 AM webchick|scribe: Important skillset is community keadershup, legal, marketing, team wokr, international diversity
 9:36:11 AM KatteKrab: skyred++ 
 9:36:20 AM stephvhosny: leadership
 9:36:25 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Looking for more qustions
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 9:36:35 AM webchick|scribe: If you have a question of subset of candidares, that's ok too
 9:36:37 AM KatteKrab: I have a question
 9:36:44 AM webchick|scribe: will pause for a moment while Qs are queued up.
 9:36:44 AM KatteKrab: Q: Infrastructure...
 9:36:45 AM webchick|scribe: Donna:
 9:37:00 AM webchick|scribe: Q: I have a question about infrastructure. I understand that we use resources of OSUOSL
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 9:37:09 AM webchick|scribe: and that we've got some peope within DA who are paid to help work on this stuff
 9:37:20 AM webchick|scribe: but is anyone able to give outline of how our infra and nature of it?
 9:37:22 AM webchick|scribe: greggles: tag?
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 9:37:37 AM jredding_: *greggles or I can take that question*
 9:37:47 AM webchick|scribe: oh!
 9:37:48 AM webchick|scribe: jredding_:  
 9:37:54 AM jredding_: *oh awesome.. webchick's got it. *
 9:37:56 AM webchick|scribe: hahahaha
 9:37:57 AM stephvhosny: good question!
 9:37:58 AM greggles|scribe: haha
 9:38:05 AM carsonblack: Q: What are some (or one) way that DA can help the small user groups throughout the world better serve their local markets?
 9:38:34 AM greggles|scribe: yes
 9:38:38 AM stevepurkiss: hand re carsonblack
 9:39:21 AM greggles|scribe: webchick: our servers are all at OSUOSL, primarily managed by a team of volunteers - there is an org chart "make drupal.org awesome org chart" you can see all the volunteers - there are 23-25 of them
 9:39:24 AM KatteKrab: http://drupal.org/node/1293124
 9:39:28 AM nedjo: webchick|scribe: pls wrap up in a few secs.
 9:39:49 AM Crell: https://docs.google.com/a/palantir.net/drawings/d/15KUjaaoVfvCVBiEKwwi-DoJ7S36NCLTKANjj8FX2uDo/edit?hl=en_US
 9:39:51 AM nickvidal: hand for carsonblack's question
 9:40:03 AM greggles|scribe: webchick: the DA pays for hardware, like for the git migration. we also have paid contractors to work on specific features. we also employ (contract) neil drumm who is our general IT guy who helps with tweaks we need for fundraising and integrates patches from the community. when the community needs a feature he can integrate those patches in though he has a lot of hats he wears so sometimes that takes time
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 9:40:22 AM greggles|scribe: webchick: in 2012 one thing we might do is hire more staff to manage things that the community cannot do on a grassroots basis
 9:40:24 AM jredding_: The Infrastructure team Org Chart: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15KUjaaoVfvCVBiEKwwi-DoJ7S36NCLTKANjj8FX2uDo/edit?hl=en_US
 9:40:27 AM webchick|scribe: KatteKrab: did that help?
 9:40:35 AM KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: yes! thank you 
 9:40:36 AM webchick|scribe: 
 9:40:38 AM greggles|scribe: nedjo: reading carsonblack's question
 9:41:33 AM greggles|scribe: stevepurkiss says: you can help make connections between people and point to community resources
 9:41:35 AM webchick|scribe: greggles|scribe: if you need me to tag back in let me know
 9:42:13 AM greggles|scribe: nick says: 1) drupal guilds is very interesting idea and maybe the DA could work on that 2) ambassadors initiative which is outlined by the DA and could help the local community
 9:42:19 AM greggles|scribe: webchick|scribe: sure, your turn
 9:42:20 AM toddtomlinson: A:  I believe the DA can enable smaller organizations by marshaling resources - providing a) educational materials, b) marketing materials, c) connections to organizations within their communities, etc.
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 9:42:23 AM webchick|scribe: on it!
 9:42:25 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:42:31 AM webchick|scribe: Step:
 9:42:33 AM greggles: nickvidal: could you provide a link to the ambassadors program? I'm not familiar with that
 9:42:41 AM webchick|scribe: making recference back to my earlier answer about fundraising opportunities
 9:42:47 AM webchick|scribe: or having opportunity to shine along with large orgs
 9:42:57 AM stevepurkiss: hand re funds
 9:42:58 AM webchick|scribe: and also as they manage to support their own groups and organizations
 9:42:59 AM nickvidal: greggles, sure just a sec
 9:43:05 AM webchick|scribe: at events
 9:43:12 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:43:16 AM webchick|scribe: Yeah, regards to funding
 9:43:21 AM webchick|scribe: as far as I can see funds are out there
 9:43:25 AM webchick|scribe: they don't know ehere and how to channel it
 9:43:29 AM webchick|scribe: this is a role the DA can and should be doing
 9:43:35 AM webchick|scribe: not just in terms of what's already out there that people want to use
 9:43:45 AM webchick|scribe: at the moment it looks like there's a separate marketing company set up to do this
 9:43:46 AM skyred: carsonblack, another thing that DA can improve for international groups is the localization support. Right, the groups.drupal.org only supports handful languages. More can be added
 9:43:53 AM webchick|scribe: i think we need to do integrated marketing/comm so we speak from one voice
 9:43:54 AM toddtomlinson: A: also help them pull in people by providing access to key Drupal experts (e.g., I went to the Bellingham Washington DUG and spoke - using PDD as the platform we drew several new people to the group)
 9:44:04 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo: More questions?
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 9:44:18 AM nickvidal: greggles: Drupal "Ambassador" Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/node/198728
 9:44:18 AM toddtomlinson: crickets
 9:44:22 AM webchick|scribe: question from ???
 9:44:25 AM KatteKrab: toddtomlinson: 
 9:44:26 AM greggles: jredding
 9:44:29 AM webchick|scribe: When the DA board member is out n the community
 9:44:34 AM webchick|scribe: how would that member represent themselvs in the community?
 9:44:38 AM webchick|scribe: would they have a title of board member and use that?
 9:44:48 AM webchick|scribe: or how would they represent themselves in the community when you are a board member?
 9:44:52 AM webchick|scribe: ^^ from Jacob
 9:44:53 AM nickvidal: Drupal Guilds Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/guilds
 9:44:56 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo: looking for hands
 9:45:01 AM KatteKrab: actually - I have no idea jredding_
 9:45:05 AM mrconnerton: hand
 9:45:05 AM stephvhosny: hand
 9:45:05 AM rcross: i'm a bit late, but i'm here
 9:45:13 AM KatteKrab: hey rcross
 9:45:20 AM skyred: hand
 9:45:24 AM jredding_: KatteKrab: No a problem. 
 9:45:30 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob repeating question
 9:45:39 AM webchick|scribe: How should board members reresent themselves in the community?
 9:45:41 AM webchick|scribe: Matthew:
 9:45:45 AM KatteKrab: jredding_: interesting...  like... wearing a badge?
 9:46:00 AM webchick|scribe: I guess what I would do is being a community at-large member at events
 9:46:05 AM webchick|scribe: I'm going to tell people yeah, I'm a board member
 9:46:14 AM webchick|scribe: and i'd want to talk to people at afterparties
 9:46:16 AM webchick|scribe: even more than I do now
 9:46:21 AM webchick|scribe: get feedback from them on what they like, what they don't like
 9:46:25 AM webchick|scribe: take that feedback bck to the board
 9:46:28 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Thanks
 9:46:29 AM Crell: Q: The DA is officially banned from "directing the development of Drupal".  What does that mean to you?  Are there ways the DA could "support" development without "directing" development?  What would you want to do in that regard?  Again, be specific as possible.
 9:46:34 AM webchick|scribe: Taking a moment to introduce "rcross"
 9:46:44 AM webchick|scribe: For other candidates, please respond in IRC for that question
 9:46:46 AM tsvenson: Question: Should the DA take a more proactive role about the d.o infrastructure and its improvement needs. Especially in regards to for example content management tools for doumentation and giving better cred/visibility to all those that puts in amazing work that is not project/code related? If so how and what is needed?
 9:46:55 AM webchick|scribe: Earlier we had opportunity for candidates to introduce thsemelves
 9:46:59 AM webchick|scribe: please do that, ryan
 9:47:01 AM webchick|scribe: Ryan:
 9:47:07 AM toddtomlinson: A:  I believe we should be "tagged" as board members, and we should be highly visible to as many events and organizations as we can be.  We should be the "ears" of the organization - attentively listening to the community, distilling what we hear, and bringing that information back to the board as input into the strategy formulation process.
 9:47:12 AM webchick|scribe: I got into drupal about 6 yrs ago
 9:47:15 AM webchick|scribe: been working with it since
 9:47:20 AM stephvhosny: A: community member with an opportunity to contribute and feedback from community 
 9:47:20 AM KatteKrab: Answering Crell:  I like the idea of funding sprints...  not directing what happens at them, but helping them happen.
 9:47:22 AM webchick|scribe: really started some of the community in sydeny aus
 9:47:26 AM webchick|scribe: last 4.5 − 5 years
 9:47:34 AM webchick|scribe: really looking forward to bringing global perspective
 9:47:40 AM webchick|scribe: voicing concerns from people not already on board
 9:47:50 AM webchick|scribe: people on board jave very strong north america focus
 9:47:59 AM KatteKrab: I think putting effort into the tools the project relies on is borderline... but it's something that needs doing....
 9:48:04 AM webchick|scribe: also bring people not in drupal community into the drupal community
 9:48:09 AM webchick|scribe: training, general outreach
 9:48:13 AM webchick|scribe: found working with events here
 9:48:19 AM webchick|scribe: people who aren't aware of community
 9:48:22 AM skyred: A: I don't think board of directors should identify themselve actively among community; if the community ask, then they can explain what they do or what DA does. Besides that, there is no much need for them to signal the community what position they have at D.A.
 9:48:24 AM webchick|scribe: can get really involved quickly if they have the right outrteach
 9:48:25 AM stephvhosny: A; Crell Support opportunities, tapping into funding streams, encouraging development and involvement 
 9:48:26 AM skyred: jredding_, ^^
 9:48:28 AM webchick|scribe: hoping to bring that to the board
 9:48:37 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Thank you, a couple of more questions. probabnly all we'll have time for
 9:48:41 AM KatteKrab: rcross: you sound way more coherent than me 
 9:48:45 AM mrconnerton: A: re Crell - I don't think the DA should be supporting any specific part of drupal or drupal contribute as far as its development. That's the job of the community and brings up to much COI when you have a limit number of people saying "this is what we are going to do now". I tihnk the way the DA supports development is providing a good infustructure and make it as EASY as possible to develop, via git, docume
 9:48:45 AM webchick|scribe: Here's our next question:
 9:48:54 AM Crell: stephvhosny: Doesn't funding imply directing by selectively funding certain things and not others?
 9:49:09 AM webchick|scribe: The DA is officially banned from "directing development of Drupal".. what does this mean to you? Are there ways that the DA can "support" the project without "Directing" it?
 9:49:13 AM webchick|scribe: etc. (crell's question)
 9:49:21 AM webchick|scribe: Ryan, go first since you've had less participation so far
 9:49:24 AM webchick|scribe: Ryan:
 9:49:25 AM webchick|scribe: Thanks nedjo
 9:49:36 AM webchick|scribe: crell posed a similar question ealrier about what the DA could do that the community couldn't do
 9:49:46 AM webchick|scribe: I think one of the ways that the DA could support the project without directing it would be to provide tools
 9:49:47 AM webchick|scribe: and infrastructure
 9:49:48 AM nedjo: looking for one or two more hands then the rest respond in IRC
 9:49:50 AM webchick|scribe: is one of the biggest ways
 9:49:52 AM webchick|scribe: the DA can help
 9:49:53 AM rfay: With the pursestrings go the power
 9:49:56 AM webchick|scribe: the {"Great Git Migration"
 9:50:01 AM webchick|scribe: the testing infrastructure
 9:50:10 AM webchick|scribe: more tools to support contrib taking advantage of that testing infra
 9:50:11 AM stephvhosny: not if providing access and highlightly funding streams for groups to access themselves ie. not selecting or choosing who gets £ or $
 9:50:17 AM webchick|scribe: these are things 'd like to champion within the DA
 9:50:18 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:50:23 AM toddtomlinson: A:  I believe we are the ears of the community - and the collection point for feedback that we hear from the community, that can be fed into those who are responsible for Drupal.
 9:50:24 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:50:33 AM webchick|scribe: From my POV I think we should eating our own dogfood more
 9:50:40 AM RodneyTheCat: *hisses at dog food*
 9:50:42 AM webchick|scribe: using Drupal for a lot more things and connect with network that's already out there
 9:50:48 AM webchick|scribe: same whether you're in small company or large company
 9:50:53 AM webchick|scribe: many years ago charged with creating intranet
 9:50:58 AM webchick|scribe: peope wouldn't use it
 9:51:00 AM skyred: hand
 9:51:00 AM webchick|scribe: so we made it very expensive
 9:51:05 AM webchick|scribe: key thing to make people start coneting
 9:51:09 AM webchick|scribe: Skyred:
 9:51:13 AM stephvhosny: made people put thier expenses through it 
 9:51:16 AM stephvhosny: not expensive! 
 9:51:20 AM KatteKrab: no webchick|scribe - made people put their expenses through it
 9:51:26 AM webchick|scribe: Demand of support from the community continues
 9:51:30 AM nickvidal: A: I agree with banning the "directing the development of Drupal". The best way the DA could help is by providing the infrastructure and tools to support the development and also the promotion of contributions. For example: Git migration, and the Prairie Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/prairie-initiative
 9:51:31 AM webchick|scribe: be open and liberal
 9:51:36 AM webchick|scribe: make $ amount very transparent
 9:51:40 AM webchick|scribe: let community decide what features they want most
 9:51:44 AM webchick|scribe: let community make the decision
 9:51:48 AM webchick|scribe: DA just have money support
 9:51:57 AM webchick|scribe: stevepurkiss: GEEZ. SO SORRY. 
 9:52:02 AM webchick|scribe: that was a terrible typo
 9:52:12 AM webchick|scribe: Ruyan
 9:52:19 AM webchick|scribe: One other thing I wanted to add to that question
 9:52:29 AM webchick|scribe: the training, documentation, support are things the DA could do to support without directing development
 9:52:33 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Turning to wrap-up round
 9:52:35 AM stephvhosny: ooh wrap up round 
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 9:52:44 AM webchick|scribe: each candidate take moment to reflect on what you haven't had a chance to say, what you want to leave us with
 9:52:46 AM webchick|scribe: 1 minute each
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 9:52:48 AM webchick|scribe: all candidates type hand
 9:53:03 AM webchick|scribe: Steph:
 9:53:06 AM webchick|scribe: Covered most things
 9:53:09 AM KatteKrab: hand
 9:53:09 AM webchick|scribe: between last night and today
 9:53:10 AM mrconnerton: hand
 9:53:16 AM webchick|scribe: echo that the enthusiasm of the candidates is exceptional
 9:53:19 AM webchick|scribe: positive thing to see
 9:53:24 AM webchick|scribe: that people care so much about taking time to get involved
 9:53:26 AM rcross: *hand*
 9:53:33 AM nickvidal: hand
 9:53:37 AM webchick|scribe: (missed it )
 9:53:40 AM stevepurkiss: webchick|scribe: missed it… I forgive you 
 9:53:43 AM webchick|scribe: Donna:
 9:53:47 AM webchick|scribe: I think this is fantastic
 9:53:51 AM webchick|scribe: it's the first tim ethe DA has run electiosn
 9:53:58 AM webchick|scribe: it's the beginning of a new chapter in terms of how org is structured
 9:54:01 AM webchick|scribe: a lot of work to do
 9:54:07 AM webchick|scribe: in the future of consolidating the work that's been done
 9:54:13 AM webchick|scribe: and becoming more open/transparent organizatio
 9:54:20 AM webchick|scribe: i'd love to be part of seeing that happen and working for community
 9:54:22 AM stevepurkiss: webchick|scribe: oic, LOL 
 9:54:24 AM webchick|scribe: by being on the board
 9:54:26 AM stephvhosny: well done KatteKrab
 9:54:28 AM webchick|scribe: Matthrew:
 9:54:32 AM webchick|scribe: As other two have said, really exciting!
 9:54:34 AM webchick|scribe: thrilled to be a part of it
 9:54:42 AM webchick|scribe: most interested is the community part of it
 9:54:47 AM skyred: hand
 9:54:47 AM toddtomlinson: hand
 9:54:48 AM webchick|scribe: and how we can pull in the ideas of the community as a whole
 9:54:54 AM webchick|scribe: and in turn support those ideas and those communities
 9:54:55 AM webchick|scribe: Ryan:
 9:54:58 AM KatteKrab: thanks stephvhosny   I really don't know if I'm making sense at all.
 9:55:03 AM webchick|scribe: Echo a lot of things from other candidates
 9:55:06 AM webchick|scribe: I'm really excited
 9:55:13 AM webchick|scribe: most excited about nominees that are part of thos.
 9:55:13 AM KatteKrab: rcross++
 9:55:19 AM stephvhosny: beautifully articulate for 4am  KatteKrab
 9:55:22 AM KatteKrab: nominees are all awesome.
 9:55:23 AM webchick|scribe: I'm most passionate about bringing global perspective to Da
 9:55:30 AM webchick|scribe: great to see others looking to provide this as well
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 9:55:33 AM stevepurkiss: hand
 9:55:38 AM webchick|scribe: really looking forward to either myself or others on the board being able to provide this
 9:55:39 AM tsvenson: nominees++
 9:55:43 AM KatteKrab: even if not elected, reckon DA should find a way to co-opt them onto other committees
 9:55:44 AM webchick|scribe: looking fotward to championing this stuff
 9:55:47 AM webchick|scribe: and representing the communinty
 9:55:51 AM webchick|scribe: Nick:
 9:55:58 AM webchick|scribe: The DA has gone through a lot of changes
 9:56:01 AM webchick|scribe: esp. this last year
 9:56:07 AM webchick|scribe: we can see that they are willing to hear more about the community
 9:56:12 AM webchick|scribe: and open up selves and become more transparent
 9:56:14 AM jredding_: hand
 9:56:15 AM webchick|scribe: this is really exciting
 9:56:17 AM webchick|scribe: and really appeciate this
 9:56:20 AM webchick|scribe: and want to help them
 9:56:24 AM webchick|scribe: create this connection with commnith
 9:56:30 AM webchick|scribe: open and transparency
 9:56:37 AM webchick|scribe: thank the DA and whole community for this
 9:56:38 AM webchick|scribe: Tiodd:
 9:56:47 AM webchick|scribe: Believe we're at a itpping point in marketplace
 9:56:54 AM webchick|scribe: I believe the DA and the board going to play critical role
 9:56:57 AM webchick|scribe: in where project goes in the future
 9:57:04 AM webchick|scribe: we have a fantastic pool of candidates
 9:57:06 AM webchick|scribe: hope we all get involved
 9:57:09 AM webchick|scribe: not just the two who are elected
 9:57:10 AM KatteKrab: toddtomlinson++
 9:57:11 AM stephvhosny: here here 
 9:57:15 AM webchick|scribe: would like to bring my glboal perspective
 9:57:23 AM webchick|scribe: working at enterptise level and small startup
 9:57:25 AM webchick|scribe: board experience
 9:57:29 AM webchick|scribe: but fanstatic set of candidates
 9:57:34 AM webchick|scribe: support them in their efforts
 9:57:36 AM webchick|scribe: Skyred:
 9:57:44 AM webchick|scribe: New markets such as Asia have a lot of programmers
 9:57:49 AM webchick|scribe: we are falling behind
 9:57:55 AM webchick|scribe: We have incentive to promote more in Asia
 9:57:57 AM webchick|scribe: I would like to help
 9:57:59 AM webchick|scribe: Steve:
 9:58:07 AM webchick|scribe: I've been amazed with this process over last 12 hours
 9:58:17 AM nedjo: any candidates not spoken yet?
 9:58:22 AM webchick|scribe: realze when the GPL3 came out and first piece of legislation made by the community, for the community
 9:58:32 AM webchick|scribe: I think I bring some perspective 
 9:58:32 AM KatteKrab: skyred: I have a question for you....  Do you know about Software Freedom International team in Beijing?
 9:58:33 AM nedjo: noted jredding_: you're up after the candidates.
 9:58:34 AM webchick|scribe: the DA has changed a lot
 9:58:36 AM webchick|scribe: needs to change a lot more
 9:58:40 AM webchick|scribe: and I'd like to take it to that level
 9:58:47 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo
 9:58:50 AM webchick|scribe: Any other candidat I missed?
 9:58:57 AM webchick|scribe: Very stirring set of summries
 9:59:01 AM webchick|scribe: in terms of perspectives, skills
 9:59:03 AM nickvidal: 
 9:59:07 AM webchick|scribe: vision and energy that all of you are looking to bring to the DA
 9:59:13 AM skyred: KatteKrab, I haven't had any communication with them yet
 9:59:17 AM webchick|scribe: really am confident that we can learn from and benefit from your energy
 9:59:24 AM stephvhosny: thanks fellow nominees, its been great to meet you all 
 9:59:24 AM webchick|scribe: despite the fact that only tw of you in the end will end up on the board
 9:59:28 AM webchick|scribe: thank you all for partiicpating
 9:59:30 AM webchick|scribe: one remaining hand
 9:59:33 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob, go ahead then wrpa things up
 9:59:34 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 9:59:36 AM webchick|scribe: Quick startement
 9:59:40 AM webchick|scribe: then we'll jump into townhall meeting
 9:59:45 AM webchick|scribe: my favourite when listening to candidates
 9:59:48 AM webchick|scribe: esop. the ones up at 3-4 am
 9:59:53 AM rcross: big thanks to nedjo for facilitating the call
 9:59:54 AM webchick|scribe: i remember when Iw as elected to board the first time in 2007
 9:59:57 AM webchick|scribe: we were Drupal VZW
 10:00:02 AM webchick|scribe: I was sitting at my couch at 3am
 10:00:04 AM mrconnerton: nedjo++
 10:00:04 AM webchick|scribe: in an IRC channmel
 10:00:09 AM webchick|scribe: waiting for elections to see if I'd be on the board
 10:00:14 AM webchick|scribe: just seeing changes we've gone through
 10:00:15 AM webchick|scribe: in past 5 years
 10:00:16 AM mrconnerton: webchick|scribe++
 10:00:17 AM webchick|scribe: really amazong
 10:00:20 AM Crell: *joined the board the same time as Jacob.  Now I feel old.*
 10:00:21 AM webchick|scribe: by opening up these elections
 10:00:28 AM webchick|scribe: hearing so many candidates who have that passion/drive to get up at 3am
 10:00:29 AM webchick|scribe: that's amazing
 10:00:33 AM stephvhosny: thanks for scribing webchick|scribe
 10:00:37 AM webchick|scribe: if you weren't up at 3am today, you were yesterday
 10:00:39 AM KatteKrab: 
 10:00:45 AM webchick|scribe: wonderful to see that our comunity is still thriving, still pasionate
 10:00:47 AM stevepurkiss: we all love drupal!
 10:00:48 AM webchick|scribe: I'm excited for this
 10:00:51 AM webchick|scribe: this is exciting, new
 10:00:53 AM webchick|scribe: this is a long time coming
 10:00:56 AM webchick|scribe: as nedjo is well aware
 10:01:01 AM stephvhosny: drupal! drupal! drupal! 
 10:01:01 AM rcross: webchick|scribe ++ for your help too!
 10:01:03 AM webchick|scribe: we droveh the governance last year
 10:01:07 AM KatteKrab: skyred: ok
 10:01:08 AM tsvenson: jredding_++
 10:01:09 AM webchick|scribe: really great to hear what's coming out of it
 10:01:09 AM Crell: webchick++
 10:01:12 AM Crell: nedjo++
 10:01:13 AM webchick|scribe: looking forward to next steps!
 10:01:14 AM mrconnerton: webchick++
 10:01:16 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
 10:01:19 AM webchick|scribe: Thanks everyone for participating in this
 10:01:19 AM Crell: greggles++
 10:01:20 AM stephvhosny: sleep well KatteKrab
 10:01:24 AM webchick|scribe: Did you just say we're going straight into a townhall here?
 10:01:24 AM nickvidal: thank you for your words jacob. congrats on this effort to make DA more open and transparent!
 10:01:25 AM webchick|scribe: Yes!
 10:01:27 AM greggles: segueway!
 10:01:33 AM webchick|scribe: Townhall meetings are right now. 
 10:01:39 AM webchick|scribe: greggles: I might need to tag. ;D
 10:01:39 AM stevepurkiss: are the details for voting published yet? I may have missed if they got published today...
 10:01:42 AM KatteKrab: thanks stephvhosny 
 10:01:46 AM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: One more thing to say
 10:01:49 AM jhodgdon: gotta go, thanks for scribing webchick and greggles!
 10:01:50 AM webchick|scribe: I am going to try and post the raw IRC
 10:01:53 AM greggles: webchick|scribe: I am dropping from this call 
 10:01:56 AM webchick|scribe: and one with just the questions
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 10:02:06 AM webchick|scribe: If you could try and adapt your questions / answrs into qiki that I can post
 10:02:07 AM KatteKrab: nedjo: great idea
 10:02:09 AM KatteKrab: ok
 10:02:12 AM webchick|scribe: other who are not on the call will have an easier thing to read
 10:02:12 AM stephvhosny: of course 
 10:02:14 AM webchick|scribe: habnding off to jacob
 10:02:21 AM webchick|scribe: everyone remember
 10:02:22 AM stephvhosny: thanks everyone good job
 10:02:26 AM webchick|scribe: voting opens tomorrow (cross fingres)
 10:02:28 AM stephvhosny: bye 
 10:02:30 AM KatteKrab: thanks nedjo
 10:02:30 AM webchick|scribe: technical details
 10:02:30 AM toddtomlinson: Drupal FTW!
 10:02:32 AM nickvidal: thanks nedjo, webchick, greggles, and everyone
 10:02:33 AM webchick|scribe: thanks!
 10:02:34 AM KatteKrab: nedjo++
 10:02:36 AM Crell: Drupal++
 10:02:36 AM stevepurkiss: thanks all!
 10:02:37 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo++
 10:02:42 AM webchick|scribe: JacobL
 10:02:43 AM Crell: RodneyTheCat++
 10:02:44 AM webchick|scribe: Hi everyone!
 10:02:45 AM KatteKrab: webchick++
 10:02:49 AM webchick|scribe: As a reminder townhall meetings happen everty month
 10:02:54 AM webchick|scribe: 10am pacific time at DA offices
 10:02:54 AM KatteKrab: greggles++
 10:02:58 AM webchick|scribe: everyone is welcome to join them
 10:03:04 AM greggles: thanks,folks 
 10:03:05 AM KatteKrab: jredding_++
 10:03:05 AM webchick|scribe: creates specifically to any comments/suggestions
 10:03:07 AM tsvenson: *notice this channels needs Druplicon to count all the karma flying around...*
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 10:03:10 AM webchick|scribe: to communicate with staff of DA
 10:03:16 AM KatteKrab: skyred++
 10:03:17 AM webchick|scribe: every month
 10:03:20 AM webchick|scribe: sometimes we get really busy
 10:03:20 AM KatteKrab: toddtomlinson++
 10:03:24 AM KatteKrab: stephvhosny++
 10:03:26 AM webchick|scribe: sometimes things get dropped here and there
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 10:03:27 AM KatteKrab: rcross++
 10:03:31 AM webchick|scribe: this is one more way that we connect with the community
 10:03:32 AM KatteKrab: nickvidal++
 10:03:37 AM webchick|scribe: but =we still have IRC, issue queue, twitter
 10:03:41 AM toddtomlinson: KatterKrab+++
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 10:03:46 AM webchick|scribe: multiple avenues for us to open up and be more transparent
 10:03:48 AM webchick|scribe: i'm going to get us started
 10:03:52 AM KatteKrab: mrconnerton++
 10:03:53 AM farriss: does anyone know how many people are on by phone?
 10:03:54 AM webchick|scribe: like to record them and post them afterwards
 10:04:00 AM Crell: *drops off to go to lunch.*
 10:04:03 AM Crell: Have fun, folks!
 10:04:04 AM webchick|scribe: before then, make sure everone's aware ths will be recordeed
 10:04:06 AM KatteKrab: I would like to do the townhal
 10:04:10 AM webchick|scribe: anything you want to ask before then, perfet time to ask it
 10:04:11 AM KatteKrab: but I'm going back to bed!
 10:04:18 AM webchick|scribe: (silence)
 10:04:19 AM webchick|scribe: 
 10:04:19 AM KatteKrab: have a great evening all
 10:04:27 AM webchick|scribe: Ok I'm going to start the recording
 10:04:34 AM nickvidal: good sleep donna
 10:04:37 AM webchick|scribe: in meantime, any speciifc questions you'd like to ask, go ahead and bring it up on irc now
 10:04:43 AM webchick|scribe: these townhall meetings are designed by commnity to cnnect
 10:04:52 AM stevepurkiss: okI gotto go - have a good morning/noon/night 
 10:04:55 AM webchick|scribe: == recording started ==
 10:04:56 AM KatteKrab: thanks nickvidal 
 10:05:00 AM RickNashleanas: How will voting be announced to the membership?
 10:05:03 AM tsvenson: Wouldn't Google+ Hangouts be a great tool for DA for these kind of things. Especially now when there is options for unlimited listeners, plus text chat and other stuff?
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 10:05:17 AM nedjo: webchick|scribe: are you able send me or to post the IRC log?
 10:05:19 AM mrconnerton: KatteKrab++
 10:05:23 AM mrconnerton: rcross++
 10:05:25 AM webchick|scribe: nedjo: Not for another hour.  I'd ask someone else.
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 10:05:41 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob: Any topics you'd like to go over?
 10:05:53 AM mrconnerton: stephvhosny++
 10:05:54 AM KatteKrab: stevepurkiss++
 10:05:57 AM webchick|scribe: RickNashleanas: 
 10:06:04 AM webchick|scribe: I got on early and heard that great conversation
 10:06:10 AM mrconnerton: stevepurkiss++
 10:06:10 AM webchick|scribe: how will the results of vote be announced to general population?
 10:06:16 AM mrconnerton: everyone++
 10:06:20 AM webchick|scribe: jacob
 10:06:29 AM webchick|scribe: we're going to send out email to all of our members letting them kniw voting is open
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 10:06:38 AM webchick|scribe: we sent one out yesterday about the election process
 10:06:46 AM skyred: gn
 10:06:48 AM webchick|scribe: when we open up elections we'll send one more email blast, also on twitter, etc.
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 10:06:52 AM webchick|scribe: as well as DA blog post.
 10:06:56 AM webchick|scribe: if there are better ways, let us know
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 10:07:07 AM mrryanjohnston: howdy
 10:07:14 AM rcross: Q: one of the things brought up by several of the candidates is around supporting more events globally. How is the current DA feeling towards this and any work going on towards that now?
 10:07:18 AM webchick|scribe: We;re taking additional questions/topics
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 10:07:44 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob: Two people just walked in the room
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 10:07:50 AM webchick|scribe: Marta Betts, marketing/comm manager forr DA
 10:07:53 AM nedjo: mrconnerton: do you have a full irc log of the all candidates meeting that you could email me?
 10:08:02 AM webchick|scribe: and Tyler ward (?) helping the DA with work on associaion.d.o and Drpal programming
 10:08:05 AM mrconnerton: nedjo: yes I should
 10:08:06 AM webchick|scribe: I'm sucking him over to the Drupal side! 
 10:08:09 AM chx: so to clarify you need to be a DA member to vote?
 10:08:13 AM webchick|scribe: But they're physicaly in the room with my in pirtland oregon
 10:08:18 AM webchick|scribe: Question in IRC 
 10:08:22 AM webchick|scribe: (reading rcross's question)
 10:08:25 AM mrconnerton: nedjo: yes I have it
 10:08:43 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob: That's a great question and correlates with agenda
 10:08:48 AM Crell: chx: For DA board?  No, active d.o account as of about 2 weeks ago.
 10:08:49 AM webchick|scribe: one of the things I wanted to talk about was 2012 objectives
 10:08:53 AM webchick|scribe: for those who may have missed it
 10:08:55 AM jredding_: http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-association
 10:08:57 AM webchick|scribe: we have ^^
 10:09:07 AM webchick|scribe: and this is where we're starting to do a lot of our planning
 10:09:10 AM webchick|scribe: where board members come in and post
 10:09:15 AM webchick|scribe: the elections committee did meetings and planning
 10:09:19 AM webchick|scribe: it's also where the staff did planning in 2012
 10:09:26 AM webchick|scribe: we used open wiki pages that could be edited by anyone/everyone
 10:09:29 AM webchick|scribe: to plan ctivitiies for 2012
 10:09:38 AM webchick|scribe: two of those activities were open "Drupal in a Day" training
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 10:09:45 AM webchick|scribe: to help be part of solution to get more talent in communty
 10:09:53 AM webchick|scribe: 2nd is regional events targeted at developers
 10:10:01 AM webchick|scribe: Questiona sked about our role globally
 10:10:07 AM webchick|scribe: the DA has two feelings on this
 10:10:09 AM webchick|scribe: 1) we want to support this
 10:10:17 AM webchick|scribe: i think it's amazing camps have gone from 1-3 camps a year
 10:10:20 AM webchick|scribe: now 2-3 a weekend
 10:10:30 AM webchick|scribe: meetup happening every week, every major city aroudn the world
 10:10:33 AM webchick|scribe: that's amazing
 10:10:35 AM webchick|scribe: we want to support that how we can
 10:10:37 AM webchick|scribe: when I say support
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 10:10:42 AM webchick|scribe: what I don't mean is twe're going to organize them
 10:10:45 AM webchick|scribe: or be central body that does them
 10:10:49 AM webchick|scribe: i dont think that's a role for us
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 10:10:51 AM webchick|scribe: comminoty donug a great jobn
 10:10:55 AM webchick|scribe: we don't need to step on their toes
 10:10:58 AM webchick|scribe: we could do a few things a bit better
 10:11:01 AM webchick|scribe: better events page on d..o
 10:11:04 AM webchick|scribe: to highlight events
 10:11:07 AM webchick|scribe: highlight them in newsletters
 10:11:14 AM webchick|scribe: integrate marketing with drupalcon/drupalcamps tighter
 10:11:20 AM webchick|scribe: when we're marketing drupalcon and spending commnty resources
 10:11:24 AM webchick|scribe: could also highlight great camps
 10:11:28 AM webchick|scribe: more than a conference, there's camps/meetups
 10:11:36 AM webchick|scribe: hel people understand there's this great conference
 10:11:39 AM webchick|scribe: both serve great purpose
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 10:11:43 AM webchick|scribe: that's what i mean when i say 'support'
 10:11:50 AM webchick|scribe: we do also have a closer form of support
 10:11:55 AM webchick|scribe: limited to certain areas of world
 10:12:00 AM webchick|scribe: we can't operate everywhere eith our staff
 10:12:03 AM webchick|scribe: for NA and Belgium
 10:12:07 AM webchick|scribe: we offer fiacal support for camps
 10:12:18 AM webchick|scribe: reason it's lmited is our insurance policy only covers NA
 10:12:21 AM webchick|scribe: we can't operate worldwide
 10:12:24 AM webchick|scribe: also currency issues, etc
 10:12:29 AM webchick|scribe: just exacerbated w/ multiple counries
 10:12:41 AM webchick|scribe: Belgium as well because based on history of working in Belgium able to use Drupal VZW
 10:12:45 AM webchick|scribe: to help Drupal community there
 10:12:48 AM webchick|scribe: ythat's the support i mean
 10:12:50 AM webchick|scribe: mutual marketing
 10:12:53 AM webchick|scribe: get word out
 10:12:57 AM webchick|scribe: also work with community leaders
 10:13:02 AM webchick|scribe: provide them tools
 10:13:05 AM webchick|scribe: working with very great people
 10:13:07 AM webchick|scribe: doug vann
 10:13:11 AM webchick|scribe: does amazing work in our communty, camps
 10:13:20 AM webchick|scribe: want to encourage him to get his information out to other camp leaders
 10:13:21 AM webchick|scribe: over time
 10:13:22 AM webchick|scribe: not this year
 10:13:26 AM webchick|scribe: something like a mentorship program
 10:13:33 AM webchick|scribe: to connect peopel together using either software tols or networking system
 10:13:41 AM webchick|scribe: ryan does that answer youer Q in a longwinded way? 
 10:13:44 AM webchick|scribe: Ryan:
 10:13:45 AM webchick|scribe: A little bit
 10:13:48 AM webchick|scribe: follow-up to that
 10:13:55 AM webchick|scribe: chapters of the DA?
 10:14:05 AM webchick|scribe: or how DA might work with other legal entities of the DA in other countries?
 10:14:09 AM webchick|scribe: any changes on some of that stuff?
 10:14:10 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 10:14:12 AM webchick|scribe: really good question
 10:14:15 AM webchick|scribe: rephrase as
 10:14:23 AM webchick|scribe: "Will the DA work with other non-prifits and other orgs around world?"
 10:14:26 AM webchick|scribe: the do exust
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 10:14:30 AM webchick|scribe: france, italy., germny
 10:14:35 AM webchick|scribe: drupal down under
 10:14:39 AM webchick|scribe: short answer: no
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 10:14:48 AM webchick|scribe: in 2012, we did discuss it, it's on radar, but not on plan for 2912
 10:14:55 AM webchick|scribe: focused on objectives we have, and want to get those in
 10:14:57 AM webchick|scribe: and done well
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 10:15:10 AM webchick|scribe: trying to create a global network of these associations too much work for uys ti take on at this moment
 10:15:12 AM webchick|scribe: talking about it
 10:15:16 AM webchick|scribe: but not on agenda for 2012
 10:15:38 AM webchick|scribe: wanted to give people update on election commission
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 10:15:48 AM webchick|scribe: wanted to give people update on drupalcon (denver, munich)
 10:15:51 AM webchick|scribe: other events we're working on
 10:15:52 AM webchick|scribe: drupal in a day
 10:16:02 AM webchick|scribe: progress on #1 and $6 (make d.o awesome)
 10:16:10 AM webchick|scribe: 4 things on my agenda
 10:16:15 AM webchick|scribe: if you have other things, pleae bring them up now
 10:16:23 AM webchick|scribe: first is election commission
 10:16:28 AM webchick|scribe: anyone on call/ irc not on election call?
 10:16:34 AM webchick|scribe: any questrions on upcoming elections that begin tomorrow?
 10:16:43 AM webchick|scribe: (can someone tag in for me and do scribing?)
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 10:17:13 AM mrconnerton|scri: 
 10:17:24 AM mrconnerton|scri: webchick: since I'm on the electeion committy I can give an update
 10:17:36 AM mrconnerton|scri: jacob? can you give a quick overview on what we are at and what the elections are?
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 10:18:00 AM mrconnerton|scri: webchick: this year we are doing community elected board posistions
 10:18:09 AM mrconnerton|scri: as part of the new board structure
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 10:18:17 AM mrconnerton|scri: we had a planning process done out in the community planned in the open
 10:18:27 AM mrconnerton|scri: so we knew what the community thought what was proper 
 10:18:32 AM Bojhan: sorry, where are the details for joining the call?
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 10:18:46 AM mrconnerton|scri: we came up with a plan that is posted on the association group
 10:18:48 AM mrconnerton|scri: so that process finished
 10:18:49 AM rcross: Bojhan: http://groups.drupal.org/node/206703
 10:18:55 AM mrconnerton|scri: we possted a plan and it was approved by the board
 10:19:03 AM mrconnerton|scri: so we just finished the process of getting candidates
 10:19:15 AM mrconnerton|scri: and we finished two meetings where people could come ask questions of them
 10:19:24 AM mrconnerton|scri: they will be psoted to the group as well if you missed them
 10:19:29 AM mrconnerton|scri: tomorrow we start the actual election process
 10:19:36 AM mrconnerton|scri: there will be aform you can vote and still ask quetions
 10:19:40 AM mrconnerton|scri: voting ends feb 7th
 10:19:53 AM mrconnerton|scri: nominiees will be given to baord for ratifications who will be ready to start basically immediatly
 10:20:05 AM mrconnerton|scri: and will be able to come to drupal con to take part of the first meeting of 2012
 10:20:27 AM mrconnerton|scri: so its happning fast and we apolgize it got sprung on everyone, but we thought it was really important of having the community having a direct stay
 10:20:29 AM mrconnerton|scri: say*
 10:20:49 AM mrconnerton|scri: WE wanted to have them in sooner than later so they could have a chance to make a big impact
 10:20:59 AM mrconnerton|scri: webchick|scribe: tag!
 10:21:02 AM webchick|scribe: mrconnerton|scri: thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you 
 10:21:05 AM webchick|scribe: jacob:
 10:21:07 AM webchick|scribe: Thanks angie
 10:21:10 AM webchick|scribe: as I mentioned before VERY excited
 10:21:16 AM webchick|scribe: sohappy ewe opened it up to a large group of people
 10:21:18 AM mrconnerton|scri: *needs to learn to spell when typing fast*
 10:21:21 AM webchick|scribe: and we have an election process run by communty
 10:21:23 AM webchick|scribe: elected by communty
 10:21:27 AM webchick|scribe: underscores why the DA exists
 10:21:30 AM webchick|scribe: we represent the communoity
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 10:21:35 AM webchick|scribe: it's a grand expreiment, I'm excited for it!
 10:21:37 AM webchick|scribe: let's see what happens
 10:21:42 AM webchick|scribe: speaking of board
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 10:21:47 AM webchick|scribe: and board seats
 10:21:54 AM webchick|scribe: i think it's a good one we haen't really gotten the word out there about it
 10:21:57 AM webchick|scribe: but somethibgn i'm excited about
 10:22:07 AM webchick|scribe: the DA has been pushing internally (ourselves)
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 10:22:17 AM webchick|scribe: to increase transparency and become more open organization
 10:22:25 AM webchick|scribe: starting last year had our process to ge tmeeting mnutes out.
 10:22:31 AM webchick|scribe: consistenty out and in the open, avialable to community
 10:22:36 AM webchick|scribe: board packets, so community can see what board is looking at
 10:22:43 AM webchick|scribe: something i'm very excited about is board is tarting to move to open board meetings
 10:22:48 AM webchick|scribe: haven't figured out exact technology
 10:23:01 AM webchick|scribe: migth ejust be this confernece line and ask others to mute selves
 10:23:08 AM webchick|scribe: could also be a physical rom and invite people into that room
 10:23:20 AM webchick|scribe: board can sechdule "executive session" to discuss sensitive like legal, salary, etc.
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 10:23:26 AM webchick|scribe: we've gotten to that point to begin having open board meetings
 10:23:28 AM webchick|scribe: really excited about that
 10:23:30 AM webchick|scribe: not only read about it
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 10:23:35 AM webchick|scribe: if you have time you could come yourself
 10:23:36 AM webchick|scribe: thgat's great
 10:23:46 AM webchick|scribe: any other questions on governance?
 10:23:49 AM webchick|scribe: board, board leadershuiop?
 10:23:51 AM webchick|scribe: what our board does?
 10:23:58 AM webchick|scribe: big topic at previous town halls 
 10:24:01 AM webchick|scribe: so want to open floor for that topic
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 10:24:14 AM webchick|scribe: Cary:
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 10:24:26 AM webchick|scribe: I want to mention that we are in the process of re-chartering our governance committee
 10:24:31 AM webchick|scribe: and i'm working on a prototype charter now
 10:24:38 AM webchick|scribe: hopefully have that available to look at/comment on soon
 10:24:43 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 10:24:51 AM webchick|scribe: Cary Gordon is a board member on the DA
 10:24:52 AM webchick|scribe: thank you cary!
 10:25:03 AM webchick|scribe: ok want to give a few updates
 10:25:08 AM webchick|scribe: if you have questions raise hand in IRC
 10:25:10 AM webchick|scribe: type "hand"
 10:25:18 AM webchick|scribe: if you're only on call, find a break in call and say "hand
 10:25:20 AM webchick|scribe: DrupalCon Denver
 10:25:24 AM webchick|scribe: happening 3rd week in march
 10:25:26 AM webchick|scribe: 6.5 weeks out
 10:25:29 AM webchick|scribe: coming up soon
 10:25:36 AM webchick|scribe: registration is pretty strong
 10:25:39 AM webchick|scribe: lots of great people coming out
 10:25:46 AM webchick|scribe: but as alwways, we're a cimmunity of proctastinators 
 10:25:50 AM webchick|scribe: if you haven't bought your ticket, please buy it
 10:25:53 AM webchick|scribe: in 1.5-2 weeks
 10:25:57 AM webchick|scribe: we have a proice increase of $50
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 10:26:01 AM webchick|scribe: save yourself some cash
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 10:26:08 AM webchick|scribe: if you don't care about that, donate $50 to us. 
 10:26:10 AM webchick|scribe: that'll help just as well
 10:26:14 AM webchick|scribe: it's our annual conference
 10:26:18 AM webchick|scribe: it's our comminity confernce
 10:26:23 AM webchick|scribe: it's like a big family reunion
 10:26:30 AM webchick|scribe: everyone coding writing docs, working on intiaitives
 10:26:39 AM webchick|scribe: meet in the hallway, chat about it, learn about the future, where D8's going
 10:26:43 AM webchick|scribe: or maybe D9 by then  
 10:26:48 AM webchick|scribe: but its realy whre we come together
 10:26:52 AM webchick|scribe: hope to see egeryone there
 10:26:54 AM webchick|scribe: please let others know
 10:26:58 AM webchick|scribe: outside the Drupal communty
 10:27:01 AM webchick|scribe: this is why we have Drupalcon
 10:27:05 AM webchick|scribe: it's our big family community
 10:27:13 AM webchick|scribe: not just about the software, also about the community that keeps us going
 10:27:21 AM webchick|scribe: we love big conferences where a lot of code gets wirten, lotes of docs get written
 10:27:23 AM webchick|scribe: things come together
 10:27:24 AM webchick|scribe: that's the purpose
 10:27:26 AM webchick|scribe: going really well
 10:27:31 AM webchick|scribe: DrupalCon munch
 10:27:35 AM webchick|scribe: coming up in August
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 10:27:41 AM webchick|scribe: if you can't make it to north america this time around plan for August
 10:27:44 AM webchick|scribe: we'll see you in Minuci
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 10:27:50 AM webchick|scribe: We're also working on a 3rd DrupalCon
 10:27:52 AM webchick|scribe: in south america
 10:27:56 AM webchick|scribe: at this point we don't have a date or venue
 10:27:58 AM webchick|scribe: but working hard on that
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 10:28:03 AM webchick|scribe: hope to have something done prettybsoon
 10:28:09 AM webchick|scribe: ,maybe by next townhall
 10:28:15 AM nickvidal: 
 10:28:15 AM webchick|scribe: questions on DrupalCOn/
 10:28:23 AM webchick|scribe: sessions, keynotes, volunteering?
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 10:28:28 AM webchick|scribe: anything else?
 10:28:41 AM webchick|scribe: one last note on DrupalCon, we are currently on g.d.o
 10:28:45 AM nickvidal: jacob: happy about 3rd DrupalCon! 
 10:28:50 AM webchick|scribe: g.d.o/drupal-assocation
 10:28:52 AM webchick|scribe: ?
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 10:28:56 AM webchick|scribe: selecting 2013 location of Europe
 10:29:02 AM webchick|scribe: we're planning and loking for next location
 10:29:16 AM webchick|scribe: two other topics on agenda
 10:29:17 AM webchick|scribe: Drupal in a day
 10:29:19 AM webchick|scribe: drupal.org team
 10:29:24 AM webchick|scribe: topics or questions are open
 10:29:30 AM webchick|scribe: this is us opening our doors to comments/questions/advice
 10:29:34 AM webchick|scribe: tidbits of wonderful factual information
 10:29:39 AM webchick|scribe: this is us connecting with our community 
 10:29:45 AM webchick|scribe: I'll talka  little but about d.o team first
 10:29:47 AM webchick|scribe: on g.d.o
 10:29:51 AM jredding_: groups.drupal.org/drupal-association
 10:29:53 AM webchick|scribe: ^^
 10:29:56 AM webchick|scribe: We put out our 2012 plan
 10:30:03 AM webchick|scribe: part of that was gto make d.o amazing for site builders
 10:30:06 AM webchick|scribe: amazing for developers
 10:30:14 AM webchick|scribe: amaziong for people who work on drupal day in and day out
 10:30:23 AM webchick|scribe: currently pulling together that team, and methods for paying fot htat team.
 10:30:31 AM webchick|scribe: getting towards that end
 10:30:35 AM webchick|scribe: come up with a plan and can read it there
 10:30:39 AM webchick|scribe: neil drumm who is employed by the DA
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 10:30:46 AM webchick|scribe: in the past he's been pretty focused on getting back-end infra in place
 10:30:54 AM webchick|scribe: we rebuilt our ticketing system, moved away from ASP to Drupal
 10:31:06 AM webchick|scribe: so we can maintain everything on Drupal, i'm a big fan of eating own dogfood
 10:31:10 AM webchick|scribe: tickets, reminders, etc. all powered by Drupal
 10:31:20 AM webchick|scribe: started shifting his time away from that and towards comuinty
 10:31:23 AM webchick|scribe: also looking for a coordinator
 10:31:28 AM webchick|scribe: volunteer/poroject coordinator
 10:31:36 AM webchick|scribe: that will help liaise between initaitives on d.o and neil drumm
 10:31:45 AM webchick|scribe: so we can properly propritize time of not just neil but anyone else working on initaitives
 10:31:51 AM webchick|scribe: contractors, volunteers...
 10:31:56 AM webchick|scribe: not the goal to proejct mange "you must do this"
 10:32:01 AM webchick|scribe: it's more that what e're seeing
 10:32:03 AM webchick|scribe: there are people with great idaes
 10:32:08 AM webchick|scribe: very passionate about things we're working on
 10:32:10 AM webchick|scribe: but getting blocked
 10:32:18 AM webchick|scribe: waiting on infra team to get new test/dev instance
 10:32:21 AM webchick|scribe: or waiting on drumm to close an issue
 10:32:26 AM webchick|scribe: but communiation broke down
 10:32:29 AM webchick|scribe: we don't want that to happen again
 10:32:40 AM webchick|scribe: if you want to work on something, we want to be there to help you achieve your goal
 10:32:43 AM webchick|scribe: that's our next step
 10:32:47 AM webchick|scribe: a) free up neil's time
 10:32:51 AM webchick|scribe: b) volunter coordinator on board
 10:32:57 AM webchick|scribe: to help work on these intiatives
 10:33:05 AM webchick|scribe: c) also prioritizing initiatives on what we're working on
 10:33:11 AM webchick|scribe: and communicate to everyone what that is so we can move onto the next one
 10:33:16 AM webchick|scribe: Questions on d.o?
 10:33:20 AM webchick|scribe: building d.o?
 10:33:52 AM webchick|scribe: Angie:
 10:34:22 AM webchick|scribe: Are neil and the volunteer coorindator only puling in other proples' work?
 10:34:25 AM rcross: angie is asking if neil is only working on integrating work or also driving work on initiatives
 10:34:27 AM webchick|scribe: or will they be driving these intiaitves
 10:34:30 AM webchick|scribe: jacob:
 10:34:34 AM webchick|scribe: We'll jave to play this by ear a bit
 10:34:39 AM webchick|scribe: we first want to remove any roadblocks from community
 10:34:43 AM webchick|scribe: give people the tools they need
 10:34:48 AM webchick|scribe: and allow then to do what they want to do
 10:34:52 AM webchick|scribe: we're creating a priority list
 10:34:57 AM webchick|scribe: and neil will be driving a lot of those when necessary
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 10:35:06 AM webchick|scribe: goal is over time
 10:35:11 AM webchick|scribe: as the Association grows
 10:35:19 AM webchick|scribe: that we flush out what woudbe a d.o dev team
 10:35:24 AM webchick|scribe: right now we have neil drumm, want to get another person
 10:35:30 AM webchick|scribe: want to have budget for  contractor who may need extra time
 10:35:33 AM webchick|scribe: and potentially growing that team
 10:35:38 AM webchick|scribe: we have that team sketched out on piece of paper
 10:35:46 AM webchick|scribe: but we're all developers, we know plan doesn't always go accordingly
 10:35:48 AM webchick|scribe: we'll be agile
 10:35:50 AM webchick|scribe: adjust as we go along
 10:36:00 AM webchick|scribe: also hoping to raise cash to find that eam
 10:36:03 AM webchick|scribe: you'll see me on d.o
 10:36:07 AM webchick|scribe: working on financial objectives
 10:36:11 AM webchick|scribe: we're making changes to sponsorship model
 10:36:16 AM webchick|scribe: diversitying our revenue away from DrupalCon
 10:36:21 AM webchick|scribe: to not rely on DC to fund other initaitives
 10:36:25 AM webchick|scribe: working on membership benefits
 10:36:29 AM webchick|scribe: and what brings value to commuoty
 10:36:34 AM webchick|scribe: so i can take funds raised from advertising on d.o
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 10:36:38 AM webchick|scribe: and use those funds to put into dev team
 10:36:45 AM webchick|scribe: but also want to do that with respect/lockstep with communoty
 10:36:51 AM webchick|scribe: don't want to put a popup ad in your face to pay a dev team
 10:36:53 AM webchick|scribe: would never do that
 10:36:58 AM webchick|scribe: but do need to work on revenue diversification
 10:37:02 AM webchick|scribe: so we can do more on d.o
 10:37:06 AM rcross: jacob - can you expand on what ways you're looking at diversifying/growing the revenue streams?
 10:37:07 AM webchick|scribe: we have infra/hardware purchases on d.o
 10:37:18 AM webchick|scribe: you will see a gradual ladershup change in the DA
 10:37:19 AM Bojhan: Unless I missed it, this dev-team/contractors, whats the timeline on making it happen? Jacob mentions its long-term, what does that mean - are we going to fund iniatives soon or in a year or two?
 10:37:32 AM webchick|scribe: but it won't hapen over night, and will be driven by feedback of what's working/not working
 10:37:41 AM webchick|scribe: (jacob: reading bojhan's questions)
 10:37:52 AM webchick|scribe: We're going to start working on it now
 10:37:59 AM webchick|scribe: as soon as board approved project plan on 18th of Jan
 10:38:08 AM webchick|scribe: I started to work to free up DA's time to focus on community intiaitives
 10:38:14 AM webchick|scribe: Tyler, who's sitting next to me, is part of this plan
 10:38:17 AM webchick|scribe: he's local here in Portland Oregon
 10:38:19 AM webchick|scribe: getting into Drupal
 10:38:28 AM webchick|scribe: we brought him into the office so he can help w/ some of these initaitves internally
 10:38:30 AM webchick|scribe: things that neil was doing
 10:38:33 AM webchick|scribe: and was sucking up his time
 10:38:39 AM webchick|scribe: some of it was just configuring ubercart for ticket sales
 10:38:47 AM webchick|scribe: configuring drupalcon website
 10:38:54 AM webchick|scribe: we need things done but too busy
 10:38:57 AM webchick|scribe: not a good use of neil's time
 10:39:03 AM webchick|scribe: he needs to be focused as much as possible on communoty
 10:39:05 AM webchick|scribe: ideally completely
 10:39:14 AM webchick|scribe: however, need to sell drupalcon tickets or no money to pay him. 
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 10:39:18 AM webchick|scribe: So we're starting it now
 10:39:28 AM webchick|scribe: but it's starting with neil drumm and then within next month add in a volunteer coordinator
 10:39:35 AM webchick|scribe: it's going to griow as fast as revneue grows
 10:39:42 AM webchick|scribe: not a year. we're doing this nwo
 10:39:50 AM webchick|scribe: next town hall meeting we'll have report
 10:39:59 AM webchick|scribe: working hard to diversity revenue stream next 1.5 months
 10:40:06 AM Bojhan: Ok, thanks! Yes
 10:40:06 AM webchick|scribe: That's a segue into ryan's q
 10:40:11 AM webchick|scribe: Bojhan: does that answer question? Yes.
 10:40:17 AM webchick|scribe: (Jacob reading ryan's quesrion)
 10:40:24 AM webchick|scribe: I have calls set up at top sponsors at DrupalCon
 10:40:28 AM webchick|scribe: and top donors over time
 10:40:31 AM webchick|scribe: a lot of these people are companies you know
 10:40:35 AM webchick|scribe: pro people node one chapter three
 10:40:38 AM webchick|scribe: been around for quite some time
 10:40:42 AM webchick|scribe: creating a new sponsorshop model
 10:40:47 AM webchick|scribe: new, tsting it out
 10:40:57 AM webchick|scribe: goal is to shift financial resources from DrupalCon 
 10:41:00 AM webchick|scribe: to directly the DA
 10:41:07 AM webchick|scribe: reason for this is we've had number of eople who sposor DrupaCon
 10:41:11 AM webchick|scribe: specifically to sponsor DA
 10:41:16 AM webchick|scribe: not the best way
 10:41:22 AM webchick|scribe: if you sponsor DrupalCon, have to pay for electricity, wifi, etc.
 10:41:31 AM webchick|scribe: If you want to fund drupal.org development, we need a way to do that
 10:41:38 AM webchick|scribe: don't do it through drupalcin
 10:41:47 AM webchick|scribe: if you want to sponsor drupalcon cos you want drupalcon to be AWESOME, that's when you do that
 10:41:52 AM webchick|scribe: not removing sponsorship from drupalcon
 10:41:58 AM webchick|scribe: but shifting members to be different sponsorship model
 10:42:03 AM webchick|scribe: so they can directly support initaitive they care about
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 10:42:07 AM webchick|scribe: so what you'll see on ass.drupalorg
 10:42:13 AM webchick|scribe: is we have individual & org members
 10:42:17 AM webchick|scribe: and something called a "supporting paryter"
 10:42:24 AM webchick|scribe: Acquia, Evolving web, Cherry HIll
 10:42:33 AM webchick|scribe: "I will support the DA at higher value amoutn because I want you to do great things
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 10:42:40 AM webchick|scribe: support at higher activities
 10:42:42 AM webchick|scribe: having lots of those calls
 10:42:48 AM webchick|scribe: if you're listening to this and want to help with that, get in touch
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 10:42:54 AM webchick|scribe: else i'll find you 
 10:43:00 AM webchick|scribe: Other thing is working on advertising
 10:43:07 AM webchick|scribe: we launched advertising 1-2 years ago more strongly
 10:43:13 AM webchick|scribe: originally 3-4 years ago
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 10:43:27 AM webchick|scribe: went to commumity and said we want to put only contextual, relevant advertising on d.o
 10:43:30 AM webchick|scribe: no nike ads
 10:43:38 AM webchick|scribe: not relevant to you
 10:43:43 AM webchick|scribe: good companies
 10:43:46 AM webchick|scribe: we're shifting model a little bit
 10:43:55 AM webchick|scribe: to work with companies that get a little bit more advertising revenue
 10:44:01 AM webchick|scribe: has to be a value-add back for companies advertising
 10:44:05 AM webchick|scribe: one area is the hosting page
 10:44:08 AM webchick|scribe: that's a big revenue generator for us
 10:44:13 AM webchick|scribe: you can see that in our annual reports
 10:44:16 AM webchick|scribe: a  little over 100K a year
 10:44:22 AM webchick|scribe: will be working with webmasters
 10:44:28 AM webchick|scribe: to increase traffic to that page
 10:44:33 AM webchick|scribe: and make sure we're promoting great companies that make drupal awesome
 10:44:42 AM webchick|scribe: make sure we're working w/ great companies, great customer service
 10:44:46 AM webchick|scribe: those companies do help us financially
 10:44:53 AM webchick|scribe: once we've figured out their secure, good reputation
 10:44:57 AM webchick|scribe: reciprocal financial gain on both sides
 10:45:01 AM webchick|scribe: they gain new customer, they support us
 10:45:03 AM webchick|scribe: 2 new companeos:
 10:45:07 AM webchick|scribe: green geeks, arvix?
 10:45:17 AM webchick|scribe: along with A2 and Bluehot
 10:45:19 AM webchick|scribe: host*
 10:45:25 AM webchick|scribe: they've helped to fund us financially
 10:45:30 AM webchick|scribe: pour those funds into infra/software development
 10:45:38 AM webchick|scribe: also opening merchandise shirts
 10:45:40 AM webchick|scribe: store*
 10:45:42 AM webchick|scribe: with shirts
 10:45:50 AM webchick|scribe: teal shirts support the DA
 10:45:54 AM webchick|scribe: w want to increase our membersup
 10:46:00 AM webchick|scribe: we have 1700 members, but there are 15K developers
 10:46:08 AM webchick|scribe: Developers should NOT have to pay to use Drupal
 10:46:10 AM webchick|scribe: but do want to see more members
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 10:46:16 AM webchick|scribe: I think we can be a 5K membr oragnization
 10:46:20 AM webchick|scribe: we're the association that supports that
 10:46:29 AM webchick|scribe: want to find a value propostion that says "YES" i want to be a member, want to support you guys
 10:46:34 AM webchick|scribe: we douybled our membership in 14-16 month
 10:46:39 AM webchick|scribe: great, but want to see number go up
 10:46:45 AM webchick|scribe: lots of othr erasons, not just financial
 10:46:51 AM webchick|scribe: power in numbers, we're a strong, growing open source project
 10:46:56 AM webchick|scribe: to show the world we're that "together", organized
 10:47:07 AM webchick|scribe: amazing to show world that open source is here, tbat it matters
 10:47:11 AM webchick|scribe: future of the way software is going
 10:47:19 AM webchick|scribe: on a personl reason that's why i want to see a very strong DA
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 10:47:21 AM webchick|scribe: we're growing and it's awesome
 10:47:26 AM webchick|scribe: ryan, does that answer yout Q?
 10:47:30 AM webchick|scribe: ryan:
 10:47:31 AM webchick|scribe: yep, for now
 10:47:34 AM webchick|scribe: Jacon:
 10:47:34 AM webchick|scribe: ok
 10:47:37 AM webchick|scribe: on topic of financies
 10:47:43 AM webchick|scribe: started running townhall mid last year
 10:47:54 AM webchick|scribe: will send out in next member newslte
 10:48:03 AM webchick|scribe: did put on docket at beginning of year: quarterly financial meetings
 10:48:05 AM webchick|scribe: earning calls
 10:48:22 AM webchick|scribe: analysts get on phone with CEO / COO of companies and grill them
 10:48:30 AM webchick|scribe: why did you make 5 cents per share less than you said you did
 10:48:36 AM webchick|scribe: or 5 cents more
 10:48:44 AM webchick|scribe: Experimenting with this because I want people to udnerstand how we're funded
 10:48:48 AM webchick|scribe: where this revneue comes from
 10:48:50 AM webchick|scribe: why we go after it
 10:48:50 AM webchick|scribe: how 
 10:48:53 AM webchick|scribe: important to communoty
 10:48:57 AM webchick|scribe: first call one is next month
 10:49:07 AM webchick|scribe: if you're interested in revnue diversifaction, where money comes from, wher eit goes
 10:49:08 AM highermath: What docket are the financial calls on?
 10:49:10 AM webchick|scribe: call that's nothing about that
 10:49:16 AM webchick|scribe: ??? (*ryan?)
 10:49:24 AM webchick|scribe: Are there a place to go propose alternate revenue streams?
 10:49:31 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob: the ssocation group on gdo
 10:49:35 AM rcross: yes, that's me
 10:49:48 AM webchick|scribe: Drpal in a day
 10:49:54 AM webchick|scribe: but it's an open townhall
 10:50:01 AM webchick|scribe: dnt just lieten to me talk, this is for you guys
 10:50:07 AM webchick|scribe: if you have question/topic, throw out on irc/, bring up in call
 10:50:16 AM webchick|scribe: also note in invite for these calls
 10:50:19 AM webchick|scribe: which is on a.d.o
 10:50:23 AM webchick|scribe: you can submit your questions on webform
 10:50:35 AM webchick|scribe: Cary;
 10:50:38 AM AlexTheUA: Q: when is it okay for staff or board of the DA to put pressure on track chairs at drupalcon
 10:50:39 AM webchick|scribe: I had quwstion
 10:50:51 AM webchick|scribe: You said these calls are on docket
 10:50:53 AM jredding_: http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-association
 10:50:54 AM AlexTheUA: Q: is that pressure applied for any firms not directly tied to the DA?
 10:50:55 AM webchick|scribe: but have not seen docket they're on
 10:51:05 AM webchick|scribe: they're on a.d.o/about/meet
 10:51:12 AM webchick|scribe: called it the 'business partner call'
 10:51:26 AM webchick|scribe: (also, I have to run in 9 minutes)
 10:51:31 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 10:51:37 AM webchick|scribe: Ok, my agenda was drupalin a day
 10:51:40 AM webchick|scribe: but I see questions from irc
 10:51:50 AM webchick|scribe: great place forit, this is what town halls are for
 10:51:55 AM webchick|scribe: (reading AlexTheUA's questions0
 10:52:08 AM webchick|scribe: Open the floor if you want to elaborate that question
 10:52:10 AM webchick|scribe: or provide context
 10:52:13 AM AlexTheUA: sure
 10:52:27 AM webchick|scribe: Ale
 10:52:34 AM webchick|scribe: for those who don't know
 10:52:38 AM webchick|scribe: there was 
 10:52:39 AM webchick|scribe: first of all
 10:52:44 AM webchick|scribe: if you looka t current schedule of DC denver
 10:52:48 AM webchick|scribe: you look at certain tracks
 10:52:54 AM webchick|scribe: skewerd towards acquia, DA members in general
 10:52:56 AM webchick|scribe: on business track
 10:53:08 AM webchick|scribe: 8/11 tracks are etiher acquia (6), DA members (3) and one is track chair
 10:53:12 AM webchick|scribe: all but 3 have some direct tie
 10:53:18 AM webchick|scribe: very few in this case are even business eople
 10:53:29 AM webchick|scribe: in the community track
 10:53:30 AM webchick|scribe: same thing
 10:53:40 AM webchick|scribe: 8/11 are either acquisan (7), DA members (2) or track chairs (1)
 10:53:44 AM webchick|scribe: how did it get to be like this?
 10:53:49 AM webchick|scribe: before you say track chairs
 10:53:56 AM webchick|scribe: i saw an email, and jacob said he's going to publish it
 10:54:05 AM webchick|scribe: where he put subtle form of pressure onto track chairs to get an acquia session in
 10:54:12 AM webchick|scribe: which he said was a amtter of national securty
 10:54:15 AM webchick|scribe: I'm just wondering
 10:54:29 AM webchick|scribe: how are we supposed to trust that those other sessions, the weren't a result of simialr pressure
 10:54:30 AM webchick|scribe: Jacob:
 10:54:34 AM webchick|scribe: Ok, think that's a valid concern
 10:54:43 AM webchick|scribe: it;s a cocnern ew've encountered at many drupalcons
 10:54:47 AM webchick|scribe: for those who may not know me
 10:54:50 AM webchick|scribe: been involved in da for quite some time
 10:54:52 AM AlexTheUA: * Community track  robert & jam - Acquia dmitrig01 - young bucks inc amye + lh - Acquia David Eaves - Recollect karenborchert, matt westgate, moshe weitzman, rszrama = 1 Acquian, 1 Phase 2 (board member's co), 1 bot, 1 commerce guy Jacob Singh - Acquia bryanhirsch, finkatronic - Acquia Gabor - Acquia Itangalo - Node One webchick - Acquia, Drupal Ass Board heyrocker - Node One, Track Chair
 10:54:53 AM webchick|scribe: when elected in 2007
 10:54:56 AM webchick|scribe: my role was drupalcon
 10:54:57 AM webchick|scribe: events director
 10:55:02 AM webchick|scribe: a role that cary gordon took on after me
 10:55:08 AM webchick|scribe: one =of my first events was drupalcon ? 
 10:55:12 AM AlexTheUA: 8 / 11 have Acquians (7) + Drupal Ass Members (2) + track chairs (1)
 10:55:12 AM webchick|scribe: and been invoived in evert one sense
 10:55:16 AM webchick|scribe: as we grown
 10:55:22 AM webchick|scribe: always [resure
 10:55:26 AM webchick|scribe: always contention around sessions
 10:55:29 AM webchick|scribe: when sponsors give us money
 10:55:31 AM AlexTheUA: * Business track Amazon - Acquia, former board member bhouse x2 - Acquia mike ryan & mosche - Acquia Todd Nienkerk - 4K, Track Chair Matt Westgate - bots caroltron, robeano - Palantir- boss is well known to abuse her power on the DA (duh!) nicki0867 - treehouse febbraro, jwalpole - Phase 2, DA Board Jacob Singh - Acquia, also not a business person in any sense of the word ezra- g - see Redding, Jacob kvantomme -
 10:55:41 AM webchick|scribe: they do want financial input
 10:55:47 AM lh: to be clear, i do not work at acquia
 10:55:49 AM webchick|scribe: some conferences let sponsors buy a session
 10:55:49 AM AlexTheUA: 8 / 11 have Acquians (6) + Drupal Ass members (3) + track chairs (1) 
 10:55:53 AM lh: *wanders back to her day job*
 10:56:02 AM webchick|scribe: We used to do that, in DC and eatlier
 10:56:06 AM AlexTheUA: sorry, I didn't put your company on there, @lh!
 10:56:07 AM webchick|scribe: In SF we moved to track chair method
 10:56:13 AM lh: AlexTheUA: all good
 10:56:22 AM webchick|scribe: These sessions were selected by 3 people in a room
 10:56:25 AM webchick|scribe: but we grew
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 10:56:37 AM webchick|scribe: there's a good reason why people put a session in a back room and don't tell you how ti's done
 10:56:39 AM webchick|scribe: sxsw
 10:56:43 AM webchick|scribe: they just do it, no appeal
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 10:56:47 AM webchick|scribe: so we did use track chairs
 10:56:50 AM webchick|scribe: to be ore accoutable
 10:56:56 AM webchick|scribe: you point out a lot of sessions who are from aquia
 10:57:03 AM webchick|scribe: byt they were selected by people not from acquia
 10:57:09 AM webchick|scribe: e.g. non-profit 4 people not from acquia
 10:57:10 AM manarth: My 2p: I think the idea of "Buying sessions" is good: it's a reasonable funding option, and it ensures the sponsor is guaranteed a slot.  If it' publicly recognised that it's a sponsored session, I don't see an issue/
 10:57:23 AM webchick|scribe: 5 of the 16 people not at ascacquia, and 2 od those only cmame in via later acquisition
 10:57:26 AM webchick|scribe: they selected indepentently
 10:57:28 AM webchick|scribe: with autono,y
 10:57:39 AM webchick|scribe: we do put pepople in those sessions and track chairs decide who to bring on
 10:57:41 AM AlexTheUA: which track is being referred to with the 5/16?
 10:57:43 AM webchick|scribe: they diversify their own team
 10:57:48 AM webchick|scribe: AlexTheUA: I think track fchairs?
 10:57:59 AM webchick|scribe: so what I surmise from that list is those were the best sessions
 10:58:05 AM webchick|scribe: i have a lot of faith in our trakc chairs
 10:58:09 AM webchick|scribe: sift through 600+ sessions to find 100 of them
 10:58:19 AM webchick|scribe: find 600 amazing speakrs, community members think they do a great job
 10:58:25 AM webchick|scribe: 2nd question about direct pressure on track chairs
 10:58:30 AM webchick|scribe: i agree we don't want overt pressure
 10:58:42 AM webchick|scribe: i did, as you've ben very good at getting my personal emails 
 10:58:51 AM webchick|scribe: i don't like it, ebcause it's my personal email acocunt, but that's fine
 10:58:55 AM webchick|scribe: i did go to the non-profit chairs
 10:59:02 AM webchick|scribe: and di ask them about a praticular session I wanted to see at Drupalcon
 10:59:08 AM webchick|scribe: i ask ed because it came to me before DrupalCon London
 10:59:17 AM webchick|scribe: amsazing website, found in partner in business community
 10:59:18 AM webchick|scribe: not acquia
 10:59:23 AM webchick|scribe: website for DoD 
 10:59:35 AM AlexTheUA: so, how can others get you to apply pressure for their *awesome* session? 
 10:59:37 AM webchick|scribe: that connecting multiple defense agendies to help them collboat
 10:59:46 AM webchick|scribe: lots of good technology, it's a really big deal
 10:59:52 AM webchick|scribe: part of me went "Tis is amaong!'
 10:59:54 AM webchick|scribe: this is what we do
 10:59:58 AM AlexTheUA: is there an application process for getting sessions back-doored?
 11:00:04 AM webchick|scribe: we build great software, and this is amaing stuff
 11:00:10 AM webchick|scribe: I was tlaking about this idea at a panel
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 11:00:16 AM webchick: Sorry I have to jump on another call. 
 11:00:19 AM rcross: Q: i unfortunately haven't been able to make more townhall meetings b/c of the time - i'm a bit surprised that there isn't more questions/audience in these townhalls (also as part of the election questions). I'm just curious if this is on anyone else's radar and whether there is any effort being put into making it more accessible/attractive to people outside of N. America? 
 11:00:35 AM rcross: webchick ++ thanks for scribing
 11:00:37 AM tvn: webchick's fingers++
 11:00:42 AM chx: rcross: Hey, I am in London! 
 11:00:43 AM webchick: *goes to soak fingers in ice*
 11:00:49 AM carsonblack: Drupal in A Day Question: Is there a way to do a DIAD Train the trainer kind of thing sponsored by the DA? I think that would be great for those of us that want to do this on a local level through our user groups on a not-for-profit basis or perhaps at local camps. 
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 11:02:01 AM rcross: chx apologies, i mostly wanted to say non-asia pacific.... i was up at 4am to be part of the election meeting, so just hard for others here to partake
 11:03:11 AM webchick: rcross: in fairness we had another call last night at a reasonable time your time to accommodate. 
 11:03:34 AM AlexTheUA: ...lost the call...
 11:03:35 AM highermath: hand?
 11:03:55 AM rcross: webchick: i know - i was part of that too... but the townhall's are often as this time
 11:05:40 AM AlexTheUA:  jacob- do you have an example of putting pressure on a track chair for a non0da board member or acquian?
 11:06:02 AM AlexTheUA: I
 11:06:54 AM AlexTheUA: so that would be a "no"?
 11:07:28 AM AlexTheUA: which means the answer to my previous q is "step 1- get on the DA board or get hired by acquia"?
 11:08:12 AM AlexTheUA: ya mon
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 11:08:41 AM carsonblack: that good
 11:10:53 AM rcross: jredding_: perhaps Alex's concern might be better expressed as "there is often the same presenters at each drupalcon, is there anything being done to get different people to present?" (of course this is in addition to maintaining/improving speaker quality)
 11:11:15 AM carsonblack: Yeah, something in the future would be cool
 11:11:28 AM carsonblack: It's something we desperately need
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 11:16:09 AM carsonblack: jredding_++ webchick++
 11:16:36 AM rcross: thanks for all your effort jacob. 
 11:17:08 AM rcross: taking on all our tough questions!
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 11:20:48 AM RodneyTheCat: *hopes to eventually find out how all the candidates stand on cats vs dogs*
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 11:21:54 AM rcross: RodneyTheCat: in true political form, I like all our fellow animal brothers
 11:22:08 AM banghouse: dogs++
 11:22:10 AM rcross: except mosquitos.... they really bug me
 11:22:13 AM banghouse: cats++
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 11:37:27 AM highermath: :RodneyTheCat I avoid standing on cats or dogs. Conversly, they seem to love standing on me
 11:37:50 AM RodneyTheCat: *jumps on highermath*
 11:39:56 AM highermath: *once woke up with purring cat sleping on face. First thought: I am blind and my head is going to blow up.*
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 3:10:15 PM KatteKrab: oh hi
 3:10:20 PM KatteKrab: awake again now
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 3:19:11 PM KatteKrab: webchick: wow - you are a scribe machine!
 3:20:00 PM webchick: Yeah. Ow.
 3:25:55 PM KatteKrab: webchick: do you know if it's possible to email all eligible voters to tell 'em vote is open?
 3:26:01 PM KatteKrab: rather than just DA members?
 3:26:11 PM KatteKrab: *has no idea if that's technically possible.*
 3:26:23 PM KatteKrab: to tell 'em voting is open
 3:26:33 PM KatteKrab: gah - I feel like I have jetlag
 3:26:37 PM webchick: I guess that would be technically possible, but WAY not cool in terms of them having the ability to opt-in/out
 3:26:44 PM webchick: DA membership is much safer
 3:26:56 PM webchick: though obviously totally incomplete
 3:26:59 PM KatteKrab: hmmm.
 3:27:01 PM webchick: we'll just have to count on people getting the word out
 3:27:13 PM webchick: Cos I don't want Drupal.org added to spammer blackhole
 3:27:25 PM KatteKrab: some way of getting the word out on DO...
 3:27:43 PM KatteKrab: to people registered on DO
 3:27:51 PM KatteKrab: who may not visit the website all that often.
 3:28:01 PM KatteKrab: it's a tricky one.
 3:28:23 PM KatteKrab: I think we need to add this to the list for next year... how to inform the citizenry the election process is happening...
 3:28:26 PM KatteKrab: without spamming.
 3:28:40 PM KatteKrab: perhaps a voter registration step...
 3:29:08 PM KatteKrab: which then explicitly gives permission to tell registered voters - that the noms are open, that voting has begun... etc.
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