CDSS director Kim Johnson's response on categorical eligibility, administrative burdens, and welfare cliffs

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[Grecia Marquez-Nieblas] 13:13:12
So we have one more question here. It says on one hand, categorical, eligibility reduces administrative burdens on the other, it exasperates benefit cliffs.

[Grecia Marquez-Nieblas] 13:13:23
How do you weigh these effects?

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:25
It's it's a great. It's a great question, I mean, I think again benefit cliffs.

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:31
And again, the experience we're having of having some resources change. These are real.

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:36
We recognize the real impacts to households, families, individuals across the State, and so I think we have to continue to think about that and look at it.

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:43
I'll use some examples like how Works, for example, and in Cal works.

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:49
We've looked at the benefit. Cliche Cliff issue and assets.

[Kim Johnson] 13:13:52
There's been policy over the last several years, and cow works where we have exempted additional income and assets from counting against genetics.

[Kim Johnson] 13:14:03
You have a greater ability as a family on Cal works to get stable before the program where you have to exit the program.

[Kim Johnson] 13:14:09
And so I think, thinking through those policy designs in any of our programs, what is actually again, how does t