arewexlibreyet.md

Are we XLibre yet?

X11 has been, and still is, a vital piece of technology at the core of professional Unix-like workstations since decades. It has a proven track record of supporting enterprise-grade applications with long-term protocol stability and platform compatibility. It has matured over decades. XLibre is an actively developed fork of the X.Org X11 server, initiated by the most active X.Org developer and supported by the open source community.

An incompatible alternative, Wayland, is being aggressively pushed by IBM = Red Hat = Gnome = Fedora = freedesktop.org. However, it is not ready to succeed X11 as it its governance model leads to never-ending discussions and prevents even the most essential functionality from existing. Think twice before abandoning Xorg. Wayland breaks everything!

It is time that the open source community reclaims what was ours to begin with. This page lists distributions supporting XLibre so that you can make an informed choice.

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For those maintaining the wiki table: SDDM should be marked as "works". I use SDDM to start an X11 sessions all the time, even for environments unlikely to get a wayland support like IceWM and TDM.

IceWM already stated they will never support Wayland.

That's what I've heard too, but you never know. People change their minds all the time for all sorts of reasons. Hopefully they will support X11 for as long as possible. By the way, are you aware of any GUI IceWM configurator that allows you to change settings you normally need to edit config files for?

Hopefully they will support X11 for as long as possible.

I think by then Xorg will be long gone and XLibre and the OpenBSD port will be the only 2 X11 implementations.

By the way, are you aware of any GUI IceWM configurator that allows you to change settings you normally need to edit config files for?

There is such a tool? That would be helpful, as it is annoying for me to manually edit my dotfiles for icewm.

I was asking you. I guess I will have to write one eventually, probably after finishing TuWiM and a configurator for TWM, which I write for the worst case scenario of all the other WMs and DEs abandoning X11 completely (and there's no chance in hell TWM will be ported to Wayland on account of a) no longer being worked on and b) being so intertwined with Xorg as to be shipped along with it as a default in certain distros).

I was asking you. I guess I will have to write one eventually, probably after finishing TuWiM and a configurator for TWM, which I write for the worst case scenario of all the other WMs and DEs abandoning X11 completely (and there's no chance in hell TWM will be ported to Wayland on account of a) no longer being worked on and b) being so intertwined with Xorg as to be shipped along with it as a default in certain distros).

why do you want a GUI???

and they probably already exist

why do you want a GUI???

The IceWM manual is nice but I wish there was a GUI for the config.

from what ive seen, gitea focuses on self-hosting, maybe we could make the xlibre repos on github mirrors to ones on gitea? to prevent any sudden vanishing of the project.

awesome idea !

Or check out Code.NoLog.CZ